Do you think a VR would smoke me?

[foxtrot]

Do you think a stock VR commodore would smoke my 5spd EA Ghia?

Just wondering what you think the outcome would be in a drag

lets say both cars are stock and neither are "on there way out"

[foxtrot]

the VR of course is an auto

[GreenMachine]

Yes. You would be owned. For the record, tell us you're referring to a private raceway.

[foxtrot]

what if the EA had Extractors and sports exhaust & hi flow cat

[big_waity]

Yeah, I think he would destroy you. I gather you EA is pretty well stock. Would take some mods, but not a lot, to beat the VR.

[ten[A]cio[U]s]

(Off topic) What year are the VR's? I really wouldnt be able to say who could win sorry cos i dont really know holden models..

[foxtrot]

VR's put out 130kw at 4800 rpm and EA puts out 139 @ 4250rpm :P

I know commo's stock are still faster coz KW means ИИИИ and fords are probably heavier

VR's are around 93 - 94

[Casper]

On a race track.

Stock auto VR, no mods

Manualised EA Ghia 3.9 MPFI with exhaust.

No contest, the VR would be destroyed. The Ghia would be pushing mid 15's at least, the VR would be lucky to crack 15.8 on its best run.

I give it to the EA by at LEAST a carlength.. and thats from launch.


The EA is lighter, more power, similar torque and can launch from higher rpm's being a manual. It wouldnt even be a contest.

As much as people (myself included) can bag the EA's for any number of things, the manual MPFI's are bloody rockets.


Just dont hit anything hard when the head gasket lets go : (come on, I couldnt let it go that easy)

[xe351]

yeah id think the ghia would bring home the goods being manual and all. Despite popular belief vrs arnt that fast

[stiddy]

id be leaning in favour of the VR, even being stock auto, some of them go fairly hard..
im still yet to see an EA run into the 15's..

[GreenMachine]

Isn't the issue that Commodore's have better rear-end gearing? On paper, yes, a lighter, more powerful manual EA should toast a VR, but in practice, i'm not so sure.

I think the words "Manual MPEFI EA" and "rockets" in the same sentence is a bit of a stretch. Although I'll admit they were good in their day.

[big_waity]

hmm.. I'd like to see this one actually. You raise and interesting point there casper. I'm actually a big fan of the EA 5 speed. I just thought the VR ahd a bit more go. Although, they did have a different fuel setup making them slower than the VS. Something I didn't take into account is the fact that the EA, being a ghia, will be multi-point. That makes a difference.

Yeah, I retract my previous statement. I reckon the EA would have it. Don't know by how much, but I reckon it would.

[Casper]

I've raced both at the track. The EA will win, hands down.

The Stock Auto VR is a slug.

In fact any VR/VS, auto or manual, V6 or V8, is not exactly a "beast". Mid 15's at best and usually a lot slower.

[RPO83]

If the two cars were in showroom condition, the EA 5sp would take out the VR no question.

[Tiapan]

The Ea would win, my ea mpfi was great, but if the vr had a holden racing sticker on the windscreen it would kill the ea hands down

[davocol]

Completely agree with casper, the ea will win no question. If both are in standard trim and are in the same condition. The manual 5 speed 3.9 engine is very quick for what it is and would almost take a current model commodore (prior to the new 190 kw engine)

[xe351]

Originally Posted by Tiapan

The Ea would win, my ea mpfi was great, but if the vr had a holden racing sticker on the windscreen it would kill the ea hands down

hahahahaha nice

[gozza]

the holden would have a quicker diff wouldn't it?

my mates vn used to get me off the line but thats where it ended.....put it down to alighter vehicle and quicker ratio

[Tiapan]

Originally Posted by gozza

the holden would have a quicker diff wouldn't it?

my mates vn used to get me off the line but thats where it ended.....put it down to alighter vehicle and quicker ratio

if a vn ever got you off i would be worried :

[gozza]

ohh yeah man they so sexy
got to be the most ugly car invented

[foxtrot]

Originally Posted by Tiapan

removed by mod

the guy i work with owns the VR and he reckons you have a broken speedo and just revved the car up to 4500 snapped a shot lol

[clontarf_x]

Please, please tell me you did not take that photo yourself.........

[SSBUB]

i think a VR would get you. Just my opinion.

[vino3o2]

Yep the Vr would have ya....

[Falcon Coupe]

My moneys on the MPI EA 5 speed.

[luke]

The ghia would have an LSD yeh? If you have a good clutch, LSD, MPFI and decent rear tyres you would kick an auto VR off the line (*cough* lights *cough*) and once you get past about 70, the VR will run out of steam very quickly.

I've got an S pack with a 5 speed & I can beat a mate's stock VR. (Private road mind you)
So I'm leaning in favour of the EA

[foxtrot]

Yep EA is 5 speed multi-point with LSD and good clutch (except the pedal.. it like comes out softly for a bit of the travel then just boots out lol so does my mates AU)

I will have to drag him one day..

[Lukeyson]

i would say the EA would do it top end.
Holden V6's go like a cut snake, till you hit 70kph. then all of their 300nm is used up

[Bossxr8]

EA manual multipoint would win easily against an auto VR. This would be a no brainer. The EA multipoint 5 speed can run mid 15's without a problem. VR auto would be lucky to break 16 flat.

[Tiapan]

Originally Posted by clontarf_x

Please, please tell me you did not take that photo yourself.........

haha got another with my grilfriends head in my lap......'sleeping'
but was only goin 120 : :