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Old 06-03-2020, 08:26 PM   #1
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A pretty graphic demonstration of why ICE emissions need to be drastically reduced -

https://youtu.be/0oN7g_RjEjk
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My thread is moved and thread remain.

Brilliant moderating as neither about cars
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Take it to reddit hippy.

If you hate cars so much, why are you here?

Funny how you keep praising tesla when it’s been proven ice powered cars actually are way better environmentally, when you take into consideration the heavily intensive co2 burnt mining all the precious metals used in the batteries. Especially when it uses coal powered power to recharge them.
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Brilliant moderating as neither about cars
Err the MG does a good job I thought.
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I know that ICE are on the way out, that is going to happen with manual transmissions too. I'm a tech guy but the bogan in me says I will buy petrol as long as I can. Price and range is a big problem here with electric.

I remember I went out for a smoke the other day and I noticed a very nice HSV GTS. And it took me a long time to click there was a Tesla behind it because it looked like a ****en fridge.

I have this argument all the time with a bloke I work with and unless you grew up here with a Falcon or Commodore in your driveway, you just won't get it.
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I know that ICE are on the way out, that is going to happen with manual transmissions too. I'm a tech guy but the bogan in me says I will buy petrol as long as I can. Price and range is a big problem here with electric.

I remember I went out for a smoke the other day and I noticed a very nice HSV GTS. And it took me a long time to click there was a Tesla behind it because it looked like a ****en fridge.

I have this argument all the time with a bloke I work with and unless you grew up here with a Falcon or Commodore in your driveway, you just won't get it.
Yeah I’m old n grey and am over ingrained dirt under my fingernails plus I’m SKIing.......they don’t need me.
The bottom line is it’s on borrowed time and GM frinstance are going almost entirely electric. The board simply won’t pour money down the emissions drain as unit sales trend down.
Mega city administrators and legislators in general are on the PM2.5 warpath.
Australians have zero influence in any case.
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Yeah I’m old n grey and am over ingrained dirt under my fingernails plus I’m SKIing.......they don’t need me.
The bottom line is it’s on borrowed time and GM frinstance are going almost entirely electric. The board simply won’t pour money down the emissions drain as unit sales trend down.
Mega city administrators and legislators in general are on the PM2.5 warpath.
Australians have zero influence in any case.
I think GM are more likely to **** up than they are too succeed in my opinion given past experience regardless of what they do.

We will see what happens but I'm not confident of GM achieving anything.

I deepthroated a **** load of PM2.5 this whole summer (literally the worst air quality in the world at one point) and while it was **** a summer I'm still alive and kicking on.

Not a real strong argument here unless we have raging fires burning all year round
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A pretty graphic demonstration of why ICE emissions need to be drastically reduced -

https://youtu.be/0oN7g_RjEjk
Is this thread supposed to be about air quality? If so it's in the wrong area.

If the thread is about your electric vehicle crusade let me know so I can move it to the thread that caters for that.
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Then there the Cruise Ships that Pollute as Much as 13 Million Cars—in One Day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N9JHYtAzVk
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Is this thread supposed to be about air quality? If so it's in the wrong area.

If the thread is about your electric vehicle crusade let me know so I can move it to the thread that caters for that.
Maybe what the MG features is worth consideration for longer term health outcomes.
Either way the ICE will be gradually geo-restricted, leasing companies will trend away from them, your local government and business fleets will also and sales numbers will be the death of them.
The Boards answer to shareholders not enthusiasts.

Mods couldn’t always check it out - living IN the car is safer than out of it.
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Then there the Cruise Ships that Pollute as Much as 13 Million Cars—in One Day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N9JHYtAzVk
As i live in a regional area i see alot of freight trains, these beasts pump out a mega ton of fumes from there exhaust stack, in my eyes its a thing of beauty when you catch it at the right angle.
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Nobody needs to worry about the future for the ICE - Cuba is our model..........but only as long as the monied interests behind the refinery is happy with the continuation of reduced fuel demands.
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Moved to the Bar as the OP seems unable to to provide a straight answer.

P.S. It's the air we breathe, not breath
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Just close it and ban the op. He’s only here to promote the interests of get up and stir anti-ice interests.

This is an enthusiasts site is it not?
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Local councils with assistance from various Health Departments are doing a great job finding suburbs where ICE is rampantly used, although I'm not sure if the toilet paper is a help or a hindrance...
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Just close it and ban the op. He’s only here to promote the interests of get up and stir anti-ice interests.

This is an enthusiasts site is it not?
Yeah, Rupert absolutely hates them.
Sky After Dark too.
2GB also.

No wonder Australia is dead last on the G20 innovation ranking
Germany and S Korea up top but even Italy beats us.
Clue -
You have to HAVE a clue.........right?.
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Yeah, Rupert absolutely hates them.
Sky After Dark too.
2GB also.

No wonder Australia is dead last on the G20 innovation ranking
Germany and S Korea up top but even Italy beats us.
Clue -
You have to HAVE a clue.........right?.
Take it to reddit shill, and promote your agenda over there.
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Yeah, Rupert absolutely hates them.
Sky After Dark too.
2GB also.

No wonder Australia is dead last on the G20 innovation ranking
Germany and S Korea up top but even Italy beats us.
Clue -
You have to HAVE a clue.........right?.
Yep, praise be! G20 = globalists, new world order...……..
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Yep, praise be! G20 = globalists, new world order...……..
So Rupert is a globalist?.
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If it suits his agenda, he's an anything.
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The Yanks are the worlds number one producer of oil (a net exporter now) and natural gas.

Pipeline network is/will be vast - Dakota Access pipeline, Keystone pipeline, Burgos Pipeline.

Drilling permits take 1/3 of the time to obtain now.

E-15 has been approved all-year-round.

And bills have been signed to start exploring (digging and drilling) in Alaska.

And that's not taking into consideration their war machine/Space Force or future infrastructure expansion/upgrades.
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The Yanks are the worlds number one producer of oil (a net exporter now) and natural gas.

Pipeline network is/will be vast - Dakota Access pipeline, Keystone pipeline, Burgos Pipeline.

Drilling permits take 1/3 of the time to obtain now.

E-15 has been approved all-year-round.

And bills have been signed to start exploring (digging and drilling) in Alaska.

And that's not taking into consideration their war machine/Space Force or future infrastructure expansion/upgrades.

Could this put China in the back seat again?

The Allies won WW2 on a sea of oil and the yanks have generally had the lion's share of power over it ever since. With this, it could severely undermine China's continuance to take over the pacific either economically or physically. What would China's take on this be?
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The Yanks are the worlds number one producer of oil (a net exporter now) and natural gas.

Pipeline network is/will be vast - Dakota Access pipeline, Keystone pipeline, Burgos Pipeline.

Drilling permits take 1/3 of the time to obtain now.

E-15 has been approved all-year-round.

And bills have been signed to start exploring (digging and drilling) in Alaska.

And that's not taking into consideration their war machine/Space Force or future infrastructure expansion/upgrades.
Hmm, according to Wiki the US is 11th

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...n_oil_reserves
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A pretty graphic demonstration of why ICE emissions need to be drastically reduced -

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Have you bought your EV yet, post a picture of it here.
God knows, you been talking about it long enough.
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Yep, Australia is a really big contributor to Global warming/pollution/ozone layer depletion/toilet paper shortage (pick one you like)



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Why is Perth brighter tham Melbourne and Sydney?
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Mining?
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Shows Kalgoorlie is less bright that Perth.
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