North Korea hydrogen bomb

[XR6Runner]

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-0...n-bomb/8867568

So apparently there was an earthquake in NK that was caused by their hydrogen bomb tests. It was felt by China and Japan.

If true, this a major concern for not only world leaders, but citizens all in the range of NK's ICBMs. Just to let people that don't know, a hydrogen bomb is far greater in destruction than an atomic bomb.

What should the world leaders do from now? Apparently there is going to be a NK announcement at 2am EST

[Iggle Piggle]

We felt it here in Adelaide around 2:00am Saturday morning.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by Iggle Piggle

We felt it here in Adelaide around 2:00am Saturday morning.

no , I think that was me farting

North Korea claims to have tested a hydrogen bomb on Wednesday (Jan. 6), a weapon more powerful than the bombs that devastated the Japanese cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima during World War II.
Experts aren't yet sure whether the notoriously reclusive country has really built and deployed an H-bomb. For one thing, the seismic disturbance caused by the explosion was a magnitude 5.1, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. That's similar in strength to the rumblings from a 2013 North Korea test of an atomic bomb. (Atomic bombs and hydrogen bombs are different types of nuclear bombs.)
Hydrogen bombs, or thermonuclear bombs, are more powerful than atomic or "fission" bombs, so the similarly sized seismic events cast doubt on North Korea's claims, experts say. The difference between thermonuclear bombs and fission bombs begins at the atomic level. Fission bombs, like those used in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, work by splitting the nucleus of an atom. When the neutrons, or neutral particles, of the atom's nucleus split, some hit the nuclei of nearby atoms, splitting them, too. The result is a very explosive chain reaction. The bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki exploded with the yield of 15 kilotons and 20 kilotons of TNT, respectively, according to the Union of Concerned Scientists. [The 10 Greatest Explosions Ever]

In contrast, the first test of a thermonuclear weapon, or hydrogen bomb, in the United States in November 1952 yielded an explosion on the order of 10,000 kilotons of TNT. Thermonuclear bombs start with the same fission reaction that powers atomic bombs — but the majority of the uranium or plutonium in atomic bombs actually goes unused. In a thermonuclear bomb, an additional step means that more of the bomb's explosive power becomes available.
First, an igniting explosion compresses a sphere of plutonium-239, the material that will then undergo fission. Inside this pit of plutonium-239 is a chamber of hydrogen gas. The high temperatures and pressures created by the plutonium-239 fission cause the hydrogen atoms to fuse. This fusion process releases neutrons, which feed back into the plutonium-239, splitting more atoms and boosting the fission chain reaction.
Governments around the world use global monitoring systems to detect nuclear tests as part of the effort to enforce the 1996 Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT). There are 183 signatories to this treaty, but it is not in force because key nations, including the United States, did not ratify it. Since 1996, Pakistan, India and North Korea have carried out nuclear tests. Nevertheless, the treaty put in place a system of seismic monitoring that can differentiate a nuclear explosion from an earthquake. The CTBT International Monitoring System also includes stations that detect the infrasound — sound whose frequency is too low for human ears to detect — from explosions. Eighty radionuclide monitoring stations around the globe measure atmospheric fallout, which can prove that an explosion detected by other monitoring systems was, in fact, nuclear.

https://www.livescience.com/53280-hy...omic-bomb.html

How do North Korea's nuclear capabilities stack up?
It has not been confirmed that North Korea has successfully tested a miniaturized H-bomb.
Navias, for one, says he does not believe North Korea's claim.
"Their rhetoric tends to run ahead of their actual capabilities," he told CNN.
Wednesday's test yielded a blast of a similar magnitude to a previous North Korean test in 2013, he said.
"One would have expected the yield (from an H-bomb) to have been far greater," he said.
"What they may have done is boosted their fission weapon by introducing various hydrogen isotopes."
North Korea still needs to make "very challenging" advancements in miniaturizing nuclear warheads to be able to fit them onto missiles, and to improve its missile guidance systems, he said. But it is undoubtedly making efforts to advance in these areas.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/06/as...ers/index.html

even as far back as January 06, 2016
http://www.ndtv.com/cheat-sheet/why-...m-bomb-1262653

at the moment id be more afraid of friendly fire from trump just going ooops but then tweet something that he thinks corrects the issue and then have his staff clean the mess

[b0son]

US went to war where there were no WMDs.... this time there are. What are they waiting for....

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by b0son

US went to war where there were no WMDs.... this time there are. What are they waiting for....

USA only picks wars with countries that can't fight back. While the yanks would steamroll Kim's military pretty quickly there's always a chance he would get one or two or seven of those bad buggers in the Sky, and there's a lot of allies within range of North Koreas weapons.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by b0son

US went to war where there were no WMDs.... this time there are. What are they waiting for....

For China to say they won't step in if the US kicks the war off. It's pretty much the only reason the US hasn't blown NK's nuclear sites to pieces.

The Chinese don't want any war though as their borders would be flooded with North Koreans. And despite all the claims they don't really have much to do with them anyway. The Chinese leader has never spoken to Kim apparently.

[Tassie f100]

The fear for the rest of the world is that there are 2 trigger happy,power hungry half crazies sparring at each other and either are liable to off at the slightest provocation.Kim is crazy and Trump doesn't appear to have much of a brain.When Trump held a press gathering in Houston he had to read from someones notes to be able to say how sorry he was,and how the Govmint would give help to flood victims etc

[zipping]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

The fear for the rest of the world is that there are 2 trigger happy,power hungry half crazies sparring at each other and either are liable to off at the slightest provocation.Kim is crazy and Trump doesn't appear to have much of a brain.When Trump held a press gathering in Houston he had to read from someones notes to be able to say how sorry he was,and how the Govmint would give help to flood victims etc

Lets play who said it.

Trump 666 or Obama

“We could, obviously, destroy North Korea with our arsenals,”

[solarite_guy]

They are both idiots.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...m-jong-un-live

Reports are that north korea looks like they're about to fire off an ICBM.
I have no love for Trump whatsoever. I think he's an embarrassment but there's no place in the world for Kim Jong Un. Personally I think he should be obliterated and the people of North Korea liberated.

Looks to me like he's mentally ill and that any form of communication or political resolution would be absolutely pointless. Given that what he does to the people of his country, his relatives, and his willingness to disregard any sort of treaty, how can we possibly expect a political resolution?

He's puffing himself up to show off and probably wouldn't actually initiate an attack on the US as that'd put a quick end to his bluff but all of his nonsense is just a waste of resources. He's no different to Osama bin laden IMPO and should be treated the same. Get rid of him, violently if necessary.

[solarite_guy]

If the US goes in they will use MOABS and buncker busters.

I can tell you this, without an attack from the North FIRST, everyone in congress will be out of a job in 2018.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

USA only picks wars with countries that can't fight back. While the yanks would steamroll Kim's military pretty quickly there's always a chance he would get one or two or seven of those bad buggers in the Sky, and there's a lot of allies within range of North Koreas weapons.

The USA has learnt, albeit slowly, that it only wants to fight on it's own terms.

An offensive land-war, would be difficult, prolonged, and costly, and ultimately hugely unpopular.

America's preferred method, of bombing them into oblivion, would cause massive casualties in NK, again being extremely unpopular. Whilst any backing off would expose SK to the NK army, and run the risk of NK getting off a missile or two.

They need NK to keep upping the ante, to the point where the USA can justify a series of massive preemptive strikes.

NK has god knows how many millions of troops they could fling against SK. The US would need to massacre those from above, and that's just not going to be palatable for most of the world.
America STILL gets castigated for atrocities that took place during the Viet Nam war.

[XD 351 Ute]

So, if they keep blowing these things up, irrespective of the country, how long before the planet splits in half?
I thought earth quakes were enough to make us worry...

Ed

[Pis-ton broke]

Originally Posted by XD 351 Ute

So, if they keep blowing these things up, irrespective of the country, how long before the planet splits in half?
I thought earth quakes were enough to make us worry...

Ed

ha, yeah. when then Japanese tsunami happened, the reports were from nasa that the earth tilted out of axis by 8 feet.

yes kim is crazy, has anybody seen the n.korean youtube clips about normal n. koreans. its a very sad and terrible situation.

[steve101]

if it wasnt for the us and russia north korea wouldn't exist

[CoupeKing]

He's just gonna keep advancing their technology and Russia and China won't do **** about it - it's not them that Kim has threatened to bomb.

The Yanks should tell Vlad and Jingping you got a week to shut the little **** up or we're gonna arm Japan with 100 mid-range nukes...then carry on helping the victims of Texas (and L.A) and wonder how they will manage the 150 billion tab that Mother Nature left them.

[anto]

Originally Posted by steve101

if it wasnt for the us and russia north korea wouldn't exist

If china didn't intervene during the Korean War, north Korea would have ceased to exist. This is China's mess.

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

The fear for the rest of the world is that there are 2 trigger happy,power hungry half crazies sparring at each other and either are liable to off at the slightest provocation.Kim is crazy and Trump doesn't appear to have much of a brain.When Trump held a press gathering in Houston he had to read from someones notes to be able to say how sorry he was,and how the Govmint would give help to flood victims etc

Thank your good fortunes Killary Clinton didn't win the election. The US would be at war with everyone.

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

ha, yeah. when then Japanese tsunami happened, the reports were from nasa that the earth tilted out of axis by 8 feet.

yes kim is crazy, has anybody seen the n.korean youtube clips about normal n. koreans. its a very sad and terrible situation.

That's if you believe the Tsunami in Japan was caused by an earthquake. There's another theory it was caused by an underwater nuclear explosion.

Originally Posted by Romulus

Thank your good fortunes Killary Clinton didn't win the election. The US would be at war with everyone.

What makes you say that? Was that one of her election promises?

[EgoFG]

Originally Posted by leesa

What makes you say that? Was that one of her election promises?

You misunderstand politics - they never fulfill Campaign promises.
The Question should be:

What Makes you say that ? Did she promise world peace ?

Originally Posted by EgoFG

You misunderstand politics - they never fulfill Campaign promises.

If you or Romulus think the US lucked out because they got Trump over Clinton... for no other reason than because there's some assumption that Clinton would have declared "war with everyone"... with no evidence to suggest that was her intention... then you're a fool.

Originally Posted by Romulus

That's if you believe the Tsunami in Japan was caused by an earthquake. There's another theory it was caused by an underwater nuclear explosion.

Oh say no more! Now I understand your point of view entirely!

https://www.wired.com/2012/01/jim-stone-fukushima/

Israeli Nukes Triggered Fukushima Quake, Crackpot Claims

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by leesa

If you or Romulus think the US lucked out because they got Trump over Clinton... for no other reason than because there's some assumption that Clinton would have declared "war with everyone"... with no evidence to suggest that was her intention... then you're a fool.

No evidence? I suggest you listen to her language and narrative pertaining to Russia.

Originally Posted by Romulus

No evidence? I suggest you listen to her language and narrative pertaining to Russia.

I suggest you post a link to it to prove your point. Afterall, you're the one making claims. Where has this idea come from that the US would be at war with everyone if she had become the president? And which allies would have come to Russia's aid?

Have you no realisation of the violence that Trump has inspired within his own country? Separating people? Egging on the white supremacists and rednecks who are harassing, stalking and assaulting foreigners and migrants? Trump is responsible for actual violence that has already been committed. Why no comment about that?

[Pis-ton broke]

Originally Posted by leesa

I suggest you post a link to it to prove your point. Afterall, you're the one making claims. Where has this idea come from that the US would be at war with everyone if she had become the president? And which allies would have come to Russia's aid?

Have you no realisation of the violence that Trump has inspired within his own country? Separating people? Egging on the white supremacists and rednecks who are harassing, stalking and assaulting foreigners and migrants? Trump is responsible for actual violence that has already been committed. Why no comment about that?

so your a democrate supporter, the side that had the biggest tantrum because they lost a democratic vote, how embarrassing for them.

so does the world stand by and let kim do his thing, or does someone/a group of people step up sort out this despot that has destablized the whole region? i,m with trump

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by leesa

I suggest you post a link to it to prove your point. Afterall, you're the one making claims. Where has this idea come from that the US would be at war with everyone if she had become the president? And which allies would have come to Russia's aid?

Have you no realisation of the violence that Trump has inspired within his own country? Separating people? Egging on the white supremacists and rednecks who are harassing, stalking and assaulting foreigners and migrants? Trump is responsible for actual violence that has already been committed. Why no comment about that?

Wrong. Completely wrong. The violence stems from the SJW's, Antifa and anti Trump supporters who cannot accept their loss. Those groups cast upon everyone else what they are guilty of - racism, bigotry, hatred and so on. I don't see the Trump supporters causing these riots - it's the coward university students draped in black masks, intolerant of other people's opinion that are the problem.

It's about time Homeland Security labelled Antifa a domestic terrorist group.

[GasoLane]

I think we're done with the American election results thanks.

[superyob]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

USA only picks wars with countries that can't fight back. While the yanks would steamroll Kim's military pretty quickly there's always a chance he would get one or two or seven of those bad buggers in the Sky, and there's a lot of allies within range of North Koreas weapons.

Nazi Germany and the Greater South East Asian Co-operative Sphere???

Korean War and Vietnam were losses for USA because of political turmoil, not because they could not kick their butts militarily. I believe General MacArthur was told to back off after he steamrolled most of the Korean peninsular in 1953. So an American colleague informs me...

[superyob]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

I think we're done with the American election results thanks.

But there's still so many snowflake tears to spill!!!
OK, sorry Mr Gas...