Ignorant A-holes!

ELtim · 17-08-2007, 09:27 PM

I was driving home tonight and me being a learner everybody treats you like crap.

Anyway, first as I was coming out of The Barossa I was turning right and some A-hole pushed his way infront of me in his hilux, making me swerve and almost having an accident. Then as I was coming into my hometown another A-hole pulled out of a park on the side of the road infront of me causing me to lock it up.

Now, I've been driving since I was 12 because I used to live in the country. But if this was any "un-experienced" learner driver I'm sure there would be an accident. These people have no regard for the young drivers, and it really gets on my nerves.

Sourbastard · 17-08-2007, 09:31 PM

if you get driven over by a black fairlane in the barossa, its me, ill make sure to wave.

shedguy · 17-08-2007, 09:35 PM

That's rude sourbastard!

It's called "defensive driving" ELtim ...watching the other guy is 90% of driving on a public road!

Welcome to the real world :togo:

ELtim · 17-08-2007, 09:36 PM

I know...But what he did was just plain dangerous.

**Falcon Coupe** · 17-08-2007, 09:38 PM

Suck it up and deal with it mate, this rubbish is part of driving, it happens to everyone you better get used to it.

andrewts · 17-08-2007, 09:41 PM

Haha funny bugger (sourbastard that is)

Yeah mate, I'm a learner too but I guess that you just have to learn, there is always going to be a few people who operate differently (lunatics hehe) but I guess you just have to accept it and be prepared to avoid a collision.

Oh well, good luck with your driving, have a nice weekend.

shedguy · 17-08-2007, 09:48 PM

Yep - there's plenty of dangerous drivers out there .... your biggest challenge (apart from avoiding the idiots!!) is to NOT become one of them!

:Edit: Oh, and by the way .... not everyone treats learners like crap ...

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Kryton · 17-08-2007, 09:59 PM

you can call it dangerous driving or whatever you want.
simple fact though is unless he looked at you, acknowledged your presence and THEN drove in front of you or whatever, it could have been a simple mistake.
sure, people should look and obey road rules and what not, but (when it happens) take the time to think why someone has beeped YOU in the future.
did you make a simple mistake or were you driving dangerously?
they will probably think YOU were driving dangerously.
its just as bad an attitude to have as being ignorant to other road users.
people often make mistakes - get used to it.

BENT_8 · 17-08-2007, 10:12 PM

Two very important things to consider about driving

1. Be confident but not over confident in your own driving ability.

2. Be aware of what others are doing around you, expect the unexpected.

Falchoon · 17-08-2007, 10:16 PM

Whenever I see a Learner I always slow down and give them plenty of room, not because I think they're going to do something silly or dangerous but just because I remember what it was like when I was learning to drive and I used to hate people acting the way ELtim has described.

shedguy · 17-08-2007, 10:21 PM

Mate - I was a self taught country driver too .... but nothing prepared me for my first episodes of public road use!! I repeat what I said before - it's all about defensive driving ... and experience ... and .. blah, blah the old man here !!
Apparently everyone on this page ^^ either has a short memory ... or was born with a steering wheel up their .........

Kryton · 17-08-2007, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shedguy

Apparently everyone on this page ^^ either has a short memory ... or was born with a steering wheel up their .........

im simply stating that there are 2 perspectives to every scenario.

BENT_8 · 17-08-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shedguy

Apparently everyone on this page ^^ either has a short memory ... or was born with a steering wheel up their .........

????Everyone????

shedguy · 17-08-2007, 10:41 PM

I've made more mistakes than most .... I went DUI years ago

: ... I admit to mistakes and, occasionaly, driving like a tool!!
I was generally having a go at the "get over it" attitude in the posts ... nothing personal intended!

shedguy · 17-08-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

????Everyone????

Pfft - that turned up AFTER my post ......

I can't help it if I'm a little slow!

Auslandau · 17-08-2007, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shedguy

I've made more mistakes than most .... I went DUI years ago

: ... I admit to mistakes and, occasionaly, driving like a tool!!
I was generally having a go at the "get over it" attitude in the posts ... nothing personal intended!

Yes but unfortunatley you do need to "get over it" You could be the best driver in the country but it will be a daily occurance to meet so many that arent nearly as good.

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fangq · 17-08-2007, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ELtim

I was driving home tonight and me being a learner everybody treats you like crap.

Anyway, first as I was coming out of The Barossa I was turning right and some A-hole pushed his way infront of me in his hilux, making me swerve and almost having an accident. Then as I was coming into my hometown another A-hole pulled out of a park on the side of the road infront of me causing me to lock it up.

Now, I've been driving since I was 12 because I used to live in the country. But if this was any "un-experienced" learner driver I'm sure there would be an accident. These people have no regard for the young drivers, and it really gets on my nerves.

Rule number 1 on the road. EVERY other bugger has the potential to kill you. That's why I tend to look at the road and conditions around me and not be paranoid about the speedo.
Steve

ELtim · 17-08-2007, 11:12 PM

It was kind of impossible for the guy to not see me. He pulled up behind me before turning. I was going around the corner perfectly. And he drove across the median strip.

Riksta · 18-08-2007, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falchoon

Whenever I see a Learner I always slow down and give them plenty of room, not because I think they're going to do something silly or dangerous but just because I remember what it was like when I was learning to drive and I used to hate people acting the way ELtim has described.

+1 to that comment, its what I do too.

Jayden · 18-08-2007, 12:40 AM

A few things you should know when driving:

Stay in front of the camry, never along side or behind.
Bigger always wins.
Dont park next to a VN commodore.
Stop gazing at the GT Coupe going in the other direction.

hope that helps :P

holmsy · 18-08-2007, 12:47 AM

when i see a learner i treat them as i would anyone else. unless i notice they are driving in a way that makes me think they are not confident.

you can often tell when a learner is not confident.
they often go alot slower around corners or take off slower or sit at stop signs alot longer then needed.
i never claim to be the best driver but when i was on my L's (about 11 months ago now) i tended to drive as if i had been driving for ages. (confidence wise) i think alot of peoples driving comes down to their confidence.
confident learners will often be hard to tell compared to any other driver. where as the second you see an unconfident learner you know about it.

dont know exactly what my point was with all that.
but over confidence can be a bad thing. but along with that being unconfident often causes people to drive more dangerously then they think.

unfortunatlly you will have to get used to people being crappy drivers sooner or latter

*end random ranting that probably makes no sence

JBomb3000 · 18-08-2007, 01:49 AM

Just be thank full it was you driving with your superior skills from all your experience and not some poor other learner who would have crashed for sure :rolleyes:

troppo · 18-08-2007, 07:19 AM

50% of drivers on the road are average or below....none of them will admit it.

merlin · 18-08-2007, 07:27 AM

I steer well clear of learners (never sit behind one at lights with a slight uphill incline - my golly gosh) and am always very patient around them, so not everyone is out to get you...

That being said you should always be scanning ahead and reading the conditions - if there is parked cars then cover the brake with your left foot, and apply 8/10ths force if you have to (you shouldn't be locking them up)

sgt_doofey · 18-08-2007, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sourbastard

if you get driven over by a black fairlane in the barossa, its me, ill make sure to wave.

I'm the white EL without hubcaps in the Barossa. Mental note, stay away from black fairlanes.

james22 · 21-08-2007, 12:38 PM

Rule No 1 - You are not driving your car. You are driving for every other ****head on the road as well.

Rule No 2 - Take no driver for granted.

Rule No 3 - Refer to back to rule 1 x infinity.

Silly I know, but be buggered its the truth.

blueoval · 21-08-2007, 12:47 PM

My driving instructor always taught me to treat everyone else on the road as a D**khead. Be defensive all the time. its just one of those things sadly.

Oh and its also SA. Territorial driving is rife in SA, its probably one of the worst states for being territorial on main roads. Letting 1 person in front of you, to them, is like removing a kidney, its too painful. There is too much take and not enough give.

You will soon see how it is.

ELtim · 21-08-2007, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

My driving instructor always taught me to treat everyone else on the road as a D**khead. Be defensive all the time. its just one of those things sadly.

Oh and its also SA. Territorial driving is rife in SA, its probably one of the worst states for being territorial on main roads. Letting 1 person in front of you, to them, is like removing a kidney, its too painful. There is too much take and not enough give.

You will soon see how it is.

Wow. You're not a fan of Adelaide?

I love it down here!

Steffo · 21-08-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by troppo

50% of drivers on the road are average or below....none of them will admit it.

50%? Its more like 99%.

uranium_death · 21-08-2007, 07:50 PM

I make the highly judgmental assumption when I am driving; "Everybody else is retarded". As a result, to remain alive it is imperative that I am wary of other people, always use my mirrors and operate my vehicle in conjunction with the user guide book.

I would not be the best driver, but I drive safely and have yet to come close to having an accident.

I have seen learners drive in 2 lanes, as well as cut me off violently. This was with "professional" driving schools in which the instructor was one of our ethnic friends who frankly, probably has enough trouble backing his Toyota out of his driveway.

Learners are good drivers, but they need good instruction. During my Ls, I had a very good instructor who although was very tight, he was thorough and I think I was much better equipped when I did get my license.

You sound like you already appreciate the dangers of driving and know the frustration of sharing the roads with other people.