XR4 pwnage

[frinik]

Just came across this in the commodore forum...
hillarious

http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/...5-xr4-wth.html

[dannyhilton]

What suprises me more is how uneducated some of them are about other cars. Hey, I have no issue if your thing is ONLY Commodores, but don't bother posting a response if you have absolutly no clue what the topic is about, seriously an AWD XR4 with a Turbo, I wish! I'm no car know-it-all, but I'm not a one eyed fool and appreciate all good cars, including the Commodore.

That little rant said, pretty funny. Goes to show, 5.0L of V8 engine and no brain still means you can't drive. Give me the XR4 anyday, a little nugget it may be but what an awesome nugget of a car

[Bucknaked]

Even the ford guy says the XR5 is a V5. :

[fiestaz]

lol, what fools. if they were told they dont have turbos they would probably pass out from shock haha

[GoesLikeAZetec]

hilarious... the guy in the vn 5ltr musta been hopeless or his car was running on 4 cyls....

vn ss 5ltr
0-100kmh 7.3sec
0-400mtrs 15.2sec
http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au...ifications.htm

xr4
0-100kmh 8.9sec
0-400mtrs 16.4sec

http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/wheels/s...ullarticle=yes


awd and turbo is hilarious... next it will have two turbo's and a dsg as well

[DJM83]

Smart people over there : an AWD XR4? Seriously if he was beaten by an XR4 he cant drive (corners probably, straight line not a chance)

[GoesLikeAZetec]

for sure it'd be right up it in the corners... but on a straight line....

[greenfoam]

Might be a funny story but in the end must have been a reallllllly sad case of a not running well 5 litre. Mine gets to 100 in the mid 5 second range with a un modified motor, as much as I'd like to say that an XR4 is a fast car, it's just not comparable here.

Give me both cars to choose from tho and if my life didn't depend on going fast in a straight or winning a burnout competition I'd have the XR4

[Ross-b]

ohh man my commodore can beat anything
cept a 4cylinder tripple turbo worked awd fiesta

[Bucknaked]

The highlight for me was reference to the XR4 as being a POS. Says he who drives a VN Commodore. :hihi:

[LeadFoot81]

Originally Posted by GoesLikeAZetec

hilarious... the guy in the vn 5ltr musta been hopeless or his car was running on 4 cyls....

vn ss 5ltr
0-100kmh 7.3sec
0-400mtrs 15.2sec

xr4
0-100kmh 8.9sec
0-400mtrs 16.4sec

awd and turbo is hilarious... next it will have two turbo's and a dsg as well

I don't believe a 20 year old VN SS could run 0-100 in 7.3 seconds. I do believe however, that someone with half a clue in an XR4 could beat said VN to 100km/h fairly easily.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry after reading the posts from those nitwits on the Commodore forum. Unbelievable.

[robjh80]

Originally Posted by LeadFoot81

I don't believe a 20 year old VN SS could run 0-100 in 7.3 seconds. I do believe however, that someone with half a clue in an XR4 could beat said VN to 100km/h fairly easily.

A stock XR4 will give any 6 cylinder Commi or Falcon a bit of a challenge, new or old models.

I would doubt however that an XR4 would be much of a problem for a V8 model, .. one can only presume the original poster on that Commodore forum can't drive or was simply taken by surprise.

[LeadFoot81]

A hot hatch fan bowing down to the mighty V8? What has the world come to!

I reckon that guys VN would be a clapped out auto on gas, and he got beaten fair and square by a near new XR4, on top of its game.

[TheZHLANE]

Is it just me or does it sound like the commodore forum is filled with 15 year olds

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by robjh80

A stock XR4 will give any 6 cylinder Commi or Falcon a bit of a challenge, new or old models.

I would doubt however that an XR4 would be much of a problem for a V8 model, .. one can only presume the original poster on that Commodore forum can't drive or was simply taken by surprise.

5L don't have much chop. But this guys car is either stuffed or he cant drive. I see plenty of poorly maintained 5L's...but naturally they go like stink.

[greenfoam]

Originally Posted by LeadFoot81

I don't believe a 20 year old VN SS could run 0-100 in 7.3 seconds. I do believe however, that someone with half a clue in an XR4 could beat said VN to 100km/h fairly easily.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry after reading the posts from those nitwits on the Commodore forum. Unbelievable.

I'm actually not sure who is the more naive that thread (which was closed because it was stupid) or this one, both clearly have no clue about the respective cars . I will bet you $100000000000000000 that you can't beat a stock 5 litre VN in a stock XR4 no matter how many years practice you have in the XR4, And infact I would only need to turn the dizzy +8 degrees on the 5 litre while you weren't looking and it would be almost 3 seconds quicker to 100 than the XR4. That is the truth on this matter, I love Fiesta's but there's no use telling stories

[Molloy]

Hahaha failed at failing, even the commodore boys where hacking on him haha nice

[MISTA FIESTA]

My guess is that it was an XR5 not XR4.

Just for the record, the XR4 0-100 is around 7.8 - 8.1 and 1/4 15.7-16. Too many varibles though, but car mags usually have more than the driver in the car.

[XR5-Boy]

They still have the XR5 facts wrong. 0-100 is not 7.5, it's 6.5-6.8 (depending if you can drive or not)

So my guess, the guy can't drive, the XR4 has been worked (doubtful), or it was an XR5.

I spank pretty much all commodores lower than VE SS (only coz i haven't come up against one yet)

[RG]

Originally Posted by greenfoam

I'm actually not sure who is the more naive that thread (which was closed because it was stupid) or this one, both clearly have no clue about the respective cars . I will bet you $100000000000000000 that you can't beat a stock 5 litre VN in a stock XR4 no matter how many years practice you have in the XR4, And infact I would only need to turn the dizzy +8 degrees on the 5 litre while you weren't looking and it would be almost 3 seconds quicker to 100 than the XR4. That is the truth on this matter, I love Fiesta's but there's no use telling stories

Reading what times the VN did NEW compared to the XR4 I think it may be you who has no clue. Remember the kid that posted that has said he is rather short of cash. Short of cash = Not so good on the maintenance front.

A 20 year old car would quite easily lose a second or more over the 1/4 due to age, wear and tear etc so maybe have a rethink, although since you are a Holden Fanboi I doubt you will.

And as for advancing the timing, well then it wouldn't be stock would it as you would have modified something from factory spec.

Can I have my $100000000000000000 now?

[XR5-Boy]

Originally Posted by RG

Reading what times the VN did NEW compared to the XR4 I think it may be you who has no clue. Remember the kid that posted that has said he is rather short of cash. Short of cash = Not so good on the maintenance front.

A 20 year old car would quite easily lose a second or more over the 1/4 due to age, wear and tear etc so maybe have a rethink, although since you are a Holden Fanboi I doubt you will.

And as for advancing the timing, well then it wouldn't be stock would it as you would have modified something from factory spec.

Can I have my $100000000000000000 now?

HOG DOG! WE HAVE A WEINER! lol

Totally agree with you mate. I would call it a fair fight if the commo was brand new, but you're kicking yourself if you think a 20 year old car still performs at the top of it's game! These guys clearly have no clue about cars

[f1tzy]

lol id forgotten about that thread. It made me crack up them saying its turbo, i was the one telling them it wasn't

[dannyhilton]

Originally Posted by greenfoam

I will bet you $100000000000000000 that you can't beat a stock 5 litre VN in a stock XR4.

If the driver of the Commodore had absolutely no clue I reckon I could give him a run for his money in my MK7 Zetec :

[Fled74]

I reckon it was an XR5 and the guy just couldn't tell the difference.

[XR5-Boy]

I love the fact he said "my mates XR4 POS" POS = Piece of S...t

Coming from a VN driver, tis a bit effing harsh.

[greenfoam]

Originally Posted by RG

Reading what times the VN did NEW compared to the XR4 I think it may be you who has no clue. Remember the kid that posted that has said he is rather short of cash. Short of cash = Not so good on the maintenance front.

A 20 year old car would quite easily lose a second or more over the 1/4 due to age, wear and tear etc so maybe have a rethink, although since you are a Holden Fanboi I doubt you will.

And as for advancing the timing, well then it wouldn't be stock would it as you would have modified something from factory spec.

Can I have my $100000000000000000 now?

You can read all you want about what they did, Wheels magazine ran 15.1 on the 1/4 mile with two people in the car and a full tank of fuel, this was back in the day on 195? hard as stone tyres. But I know these cars very well and what they can and can't do.

I used to race my nemesis down at the local track for years, he had a VR 5 litre that ran 9.3 second 1/8th miles (about 14.5/6ish) with a legit 600,000km/s on it, might have lost a little over the years but it was no way going to be down 1 second on a new motor. He had exactly 2.5 inch cat back exhaust, 3.7 gears and more timing. NO other mods, the car was full weight.

Mine which was perhaps in better overall health and a much lighter car with 3.45 gears (VP with no deadener ran 9.0). Another VN here runs 8.8 but I mean those are the elite well looked after and well prepared car in the world of worn out 5 litres.

I believe there could be one or two 5 litres out there that are slower than a XR4 but really what are the chances, it's not something I've ever seen. P.S re fanboy I've owned Fords and will own more of them (have you owned Holdens ??!) , all I'm trying to get in here is a few facts amongst the fiction.

If It was an XR5 then that's more like it, I've seen one of these race at the local 1/8th mile and the times are similar, I believe it punched out a very high 9, 9.9 by the end of the night maaaybe 9.8 but I really don't think so. Typical VN 5 litre (90% of them) will run 9.8 on stock exhaust, stock timing and 200-300,000ks on the clock. Even a rather fat stock VT 5 litre I know ran 10.0, I've also seen several very unhealthy stock VQ statesmans run 10.0, which is a healthy VN V6 kind of time but I've never seen a VN 5 litre that's stuck to the track run 10+ (ever).

To put this in more common perspective EB 5 litres will go mid 10s, Carby VL's 304s go high 10s . Most EA/B Ford 6's go very high 10s/low 11s, Hyundai's high 11s, Manual XR6 EF/L's can go for high 9's. Auto F6 Typhoons go 9 flat, BA XR6T's go mid 9's, BA XR8s are similar. Most early stock LS1's will go 9.3/9.5. Your typical 3.5 litre vr-x magna with a couple breathing mods will go 9.8. The end of the story is, I do not believe a stock XR4 can run a better 1/8th mile than 10 flat under any circumstance with anyone driving, until someone want's to show me that happen I will continue to believe this as the truth and the win against a 5 litre VN to be a one in a million miracle .

I will also guarantee that as soon as a corner is involved it's the exact opposite.

+ You can have your $100000000000000000 when you prove me wrong

[Piotr]

Guys there is such thing as a 4wd Xr4. It was the Ford Sierra Xr4i 4x4, 2.8L V6 with 110kw of power. Basically a slower, shittier cosworth

[dannyhilton]

Originally Posted by Piotr

Guys there is such thing as a 4wd Xr4. It was the Ford Sierra Xr4i 4x4, 2.8L V6 with 110kw of power.

But not a WQ Fiesta XR4 Turbo AWD as was stated in the Commodore forum.

[LeadFoot81]

Originally Posted by greenfoam

I'm actually not sure who is the more naive that thread (which was closed because it was stupid) or this one, both clearly have no clue about the respective cars . I will bet you $100000000000000000 that you can't beat a stock 5 litre VN in a stock XR4 no matter how many years practice you have in the XR4, And infact I would only need to turn the dizzy +8 degrees on the 5 litre while you weren't looking and it would be almost 3 seconds quicker to 100 than the XR4. That is the truth on this matter, I love Fiesta's but there's no use telling stories

Ok Vin Diesel, you win. I owe you a 10 second car.

[vegabass]

Ill give a XR4 a run in my XR6..... Ill race for slips and Ill even keep it on gas to give the XR4 a remote and slight chance. Oh Ill even miss 3rd as well.