Oakleigh Bob Jane store accused on mediawatch

Barry_v · 13-04-2010, 06:21 PM

http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/tra...s/s2870685.htm

the channel 9 cameraman was a bit keen, if he's behaved like that more than once I'm suprised he hasnt been bashed/stabbed.

Bucknaked · 13-04-2010, 06:42 PM

What I don't understand is who the "Terrorist" slant was aimed at. Dad or the son. I'm not condoning the use of the word, but put it into some context. Actions by the son as a rioter (I think it's yet to be proved) could be seen as an act of terrorism, especially if by standers were in fear of their lives. I think it's more like an act of vandalism. But was the comment aimed at the son or the father? I say father. Dissapointing. But what can you expect from media. Never let facts get in the way of a good story.

Barry_v · 13-04-2010, 06:49 PM

of course he's a terrorist, al qaeda always ask people to 'stop please' 25 times before resorting to stronger words.

GS608 · 13-04-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry_v

http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/tra...s/s2870685.htm

the channel 9 cameraman was a bit keen, if he's behaved like that more than once I'm suprised he hasnt been bashed/stabbed.

What a disgrace, If he had of said that crap to anyone else they would have king hit him.

R0BD0G · 13-04-2010, 06:59 PM

things like this should never happen... shows the stupidity of some people.

burnz · 13-04-2010, 07:01 PM

was that for nine news or for aca??

zdcol71 · 13-04-2010, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucknaked

What I don't understand is who the "Terrorist" slant was aimed at. Dad or the son. I'm not condoning the use of the word, but put it into some context. Actions by the son as a rioter (I think it's yet to be proved) could be seen as an act of terrorism, especially if by standers were in fear of their lives. I think it's more like an act of vandalism. But was the comment aimed at the son or the father? I say father. Dissapointing. But what can you expect from media. Never let facts get in the way of a good story.

The question of who the terrorist claim was aimed at is completely irrelevant. The sons actions are being dealt with by a court of law ,and I can gaurantee that the charges, if any laid, will have nothing to do with terrorism. You are right in thinking it will more likely be associated with vandalism, and terrorism is a word that just should not have been involoved anywhere in this story. The camera crew has been shown up for what any commercial news organization is often guilty of.Either it is a sad indictment on the intelligence of the people employed to do this job, a rather sledgehammer tactic to elicit "good press" or a sad indication of the general concensus of the wider population regarding the attitude towards muslims(read anyone other than wasp of this country). For Channel 9 to say the camera man has been stod down till all the facts are available is laughable, all the facts are on their "own" footage.
Ps Given the circumstances, I think the "terrorist/vandal/rioter" son remained surprisingly sensible about the whole thing.

Mickxr8 · 13-04-2010, 07:14 PM

personal opinions aside. i think those two handled that pretty well. this is gutter journalism at its best. "just doing my job" doesnt cut it for me. mainstream media wonders why they cop so much flack. thank god for mediawatch !

iliov · 13-04-2010, 07:15 PM

Simon fuller is a joke of a man.

MITCHAY · 13-04-2010, 07:26 PM

I would have probably given him a knuckle sandwich if I had to tell him twice to get lost.

g220ba · 13-04-2010, 07:52 PM

Simon fuller should be sacked without question. In the circumstances the father and son acted rather calmly. Channel 7 and Channel 10 should be very much ashamed of themselves for showing the confrontation in the context they did.Any wonder why i and many others have lost all confidence in the mainstream media organistaions of this country,

While i don't agree in any way with the way the son behaved during the riot nobody should be harrassed so badly while walking down a public street, I would almost go as far as to say the camera crew be charged with harrassment after watching that footage. They were asked so many times to go away politely and refused.

Jim Goose · 13-04-2010, 08:18 PM

Yes I watch that last night.

It was absolutely disgusting what they did and he should be sacked, not stood down.
In typical fashion CH7 and CH9 showed a completely different story on the news about the altercation.

Mindless morons who goaded a father and son because of their religion. (Hence the terrorist jibe)..... Sickening to see such actions by a so-called professional cameraman

The son showed great restraint and his comment at the end about "profiling" was spot on!!!!!

deesun · 13-04-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 84ltd

Simon fuller should be sacked without question. In the circumstances the father and son acted rather calmly. Channel 7 and Channel 10 should be very much ashamed of themselves for showing the confrontation in the context they did.Any wonder why i and many others have lost all confidence in the mainstream media organistaions of this country,

While i don't agree in any way with the way the son behaved during the riot nobody should be harrassed so badly while walking down a public street, I would almost go as far as to say the camera crew be charged with harrassment after watching that footage. They were asked so many times to go away politely and refused.

Well said, agreed +1

MethodX · 13-04-2010, 09:55 PM

Simon Fuller can always apply for a job at FOX news.

vztrt · 13-04-2010, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

Simon Fuller can always apply for a job at FOX news.

Just make him a reporter on ACA. That show appeals to the lowest common denominator.

Rodp · 13-04-2010, 10:15 PM

Certainly some creative editing there for the gains of sensationalising the story without showing the harrasment the pair endured after leaving court. After viewing the whole footage, all I can conclude is that the pair showed exceptional restraint and pleaded to be left alone after having to endure a camera in their face for long enough.

If he's not sacked for it, something is seriously wrong.

Scott · 13-04-2010, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

In typical fashion CH7 and CH9 showed a completely different story on the news about the altercation.

Channel 9 didn't air any of the footage.

Camera man earned a smack in the mouth before he called him a terrorist, after that he earned a full blown **** kicking. I can't stand ************** like him.

platinumXR · 14-04-2010, 06:10 AM

Meh, overzealous Chook. Not the first, won't be the last.

Bang up job diverting attention from the initial reason he was standing out front of the courthouse in the first place - has made this riotous and violent grub look like a victim.

Idiot.

deesun · 14-04-2010, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by platinumXR

Meh, overzealous Chook. Not the first, won't be the last.

Bang up job diverting attention from the initial reason he was standing out front of the courthouse in the first place - has made this riotous and violent grub look like a victim.

Idiot.

It wasn't the rioter who was originally goaded by the cameraman who said " F@#$ off" it was his father and there is no way he deserved to be called a terrorist.

Corzza · 14-04-2010, 08:38 AM

Geez he knows how to stirr people up hey

**Polyal** · 14-04-2010, 08:45 AM

Yeah I saw this the other night and I dont think Ive been that angry at some random before. What a bloody disgusting thing to do, it should somehow go on his record forever and scorn him for the rest of his life.

Im anglo and I cant believe someone would say that. Unless, $$$ is in the picture. I reckon these bumpkins get a little bonus for getting good footage but what he did was below the belt.

They young guy was right, his still a tool but he was right, they got them leaving court, got his face but continued to hound them. They should have just gone straight into their car and drive off but I think 99.9% of us would have bitten back at what he said.

Just poor form.

I didn't check that link out, did they show the whole footage? And media watch noted that CH9 did not even talk about the court case in their bulletin.

platinumXR · 14-04-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by deesun

It wasn't the rioter who was originally goaded by the cameraman who said " F@#$ off" it was his father and there is no way he deserved to be called a terrorist.

Yeah I know, but through consequence it has made the father and therefore the grub standing up for his father look like victims. The father was the target of the cameraman as he was the most vocal...but least deserving of the 'terrorist' comment.

Provocation by these idiots makes for 'good confrontational footage' to paint the accused in a more negative light in the public eyes which makes people watch the news...this confrontation backfired. It's an old trick and I have seen it used and everyone knows it happens.

Certain filters would remove what I think of the cameraman, and the rioter for that matter.

Ego T · 14-04-2010, 12:19 PM

Our mainstream media is an embarrassment. Not only that our media is destroying our culture. I'm disgusted by channel 9, 7 & 10 and I can see no change in the future unfortunately. What happened to morals & ethics & respect??? Then these gutter trash "journalists" do a sensationalised story on how our society has no moral or ethics or respect... Sickening.

I reckon the father and son have a good claim for a defamation or slander suit now. Hopefully channel 9 will have to cough up some $$$

Bearman · 14-04-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

Simon Fuller can always apply for a job at FOX news.

He's gonna need to, he's been sacked. Got what he deserved!!

||| · 14-04-2010, 12:40 PM

commercial media in the country is a joke. the general public continue to lap it up so i guess the joke's on me.

BOSHOG · 14-04-2010, 12:47 PM

the 2 men showed great restraint

gcg2503 · 14-04-2010, 12:55 PM

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commercial media in the country is a joke. the general public continue to lap it up so i guess the joke's on me.

Australian media is a farce. A plane goes down with 130 fatalities in Russia and what does Channel 9 have as their lead story

Mick Malthouses outburst at a rival player.

Nothing else to add your honour.....

platinumXR · 14-04-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ego T

Our mainstream media is an embarrassment. Not only that our media is destroying our culture. I'm disgusted by channel 9, 7 & 10 and I can see no change in the future unfortunately. What happened to morals & ethics & respect??? Then these gutter trash "journalists" do a sensationalised story on how our society has no moral or ethics or respect... Sickening.

I reckon the father and son have a good claim for a defamation or slander suit now. Hopefully channel 9 will have to cough up some $$$

Brings back memories of Frontline eh?

I worked in the 'media' for couple of years ages ago and Frontline could almost be mistaken for a docu-drama if it were not so funny and at times tragic...

My poor XF · 14-04-2010, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gcg2503

Australian media is a farce. A plane goes down with 130 fatalities in Russia and what does Channel 9 have as their lead story

Mick Malthouses outburst at a rival player.

Nothing else to add your honour.....

Amen, or it would be a story about angelina's new haircut! This sort of crap is why I no longer watch commercial news, or commercial tele for that matter.

SVTVNM · 14-04-2010, 02:12 PM

The father acted with great restraint I think, as many have said the camera man would have been laid flat earlier without that sort of resraint. I remember seeing the edited version on the news and am astonished of what actually transpired. It is sad that so many people watching it who do not know the full story behind the outburst would be thinking similat things to what the camera man said, which so unfortunate. Also agree with the last couple of posts, that it's amazing so much happens in the world and "proper" news broadcast still lead with tabloid crud.