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Old 09-08-2007, 05:22 PM   #1
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Just wondering what the road stats are in the NT now that the new speed laws are in place. Has there been a positive outcome on the road statistics ?

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Old 09-08-2007, 05:30 PM   #2
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The road toll is up. But it may level out over the next week or so.

http://www.nt.gov.au/pfes/index.cfm?...ion=page&p=148
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:18 PM   #3
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Well Looks like things are going as planed then NOT!!

I just had a mate come back from the NT, He was up there for work and he said 130km/h Just feels slow up there, Oh and he's a accountant and drives a Toyota so if he says it's slow it must be LOL.
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:28 PM   #4
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I am driving up to Darwin on Saturday. The new limit will add 3 hours to my trip. That will mean driving at night or over nighting some place. I think that I will send my accomodation bill to Clare Martin...... I wonder if she will pay it??
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Old 09-08-2007, 07:35 PM   #5
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It certainly does feel slow..I used to sit on 150-160Km/h. Made massive difference in travel times and never once felt it was too fast. The Stuart isa great road for the most part and at higher speedsyou concentrate way more than when "crusin" at 130km.h. Most people still do less than that anyways..was a stupid decision.
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Old 09-08-2007, 07:51 PM   #6
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A couple of years ago, A Watercart was turning off into berri springs off the Stuart Highway. He waited a few seconds to let a few cars past then when it was clear he proceded to turnoff.

Halfway through turning he felt a large thud in the rear end of the truck. A motorcycle hit him at an estimated speed of 250-300 kmph!!! The bike was just about unidentifiable let alone the rider.

Saying that the road toll is generally made up of European or japanese tourists in a Britz Camper not used to speeds over 80kph. Thats why there are road signings in 6 different languages on the highway.

I have blown a front tyre just out of Tennant creek at around 170 kph, boy was that an experience.

The Stuart Highway.. good times, good times..
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A couple of years ago, A Watercart was turning off into berri springs off the Stuart Highway. He waited a few seconds to let a few cars past then when it was clear he proceded to turnoff.

Halfway through turning he felt a large thud in the rear end of the truck. A motorcycle hit him at an estimated speed of 250-300 kmph!!! The bike was just about unidentifiable let alone the rider.

Saying that the road toll is generally made up of European or japanese tourists in a Britz Camper not used to speeds over 80kph. Thats why there are road signings in 6 different languages on the highway.

I have blown a front tyre just out of Tennant creek at around 170 kph, boy was that an experience.

The Stuart Highway.. good times, good times..
So what you are saying is the motorcyclist was going too fast for the situation as he did not have time to pull up? That was illegal under the old open rules and he paid the ultimate price.
I seem to remember several ultra high speed splats on the east coast. The 100km/h speed limit did not save them either.

The new limit has nothing to do with safety and a LOT to do with dogmatic agenda. If comrade claire is not rolled over this at the next election then it will be game over for ever.
Territorians, you are our last hope........
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So what you are saying is the motorcyclist was going too fast for the situation as he did not have time to pull up? That was illegal under the old open rules and he paid the ultimate price.
I seem to remember several ultra high speed splats on the east coast. The 100km/h speed limit did not save them either.

The new limit has nothing to do with safety and a LOT to do with dogmatic agenda. If comrade claire is not rolled over this at the next election then it will be game over for ever.
Territorians, you are our last hope........
Gidday FLAPPIST, sadly the chances of chairman Clare getting rolled at the next election are very slim. The CLP have pledged that they will bring back the (//) zones on some highways, but this, I doubt, will be enough to win them the next election.. The ALP have mastered the value of the black vote in the NT. They will determine the next NT government. We wont see a change until the average person sees the negative effects on our NT of the removal of mandatory sentencing etc. You have spent time here, you know what I am talking about.
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Old 09-08-2007, 10:38 PM   #9
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So what you are saying is the motorcyclist was going too fast for the situation as he did not have time to pull up? That was illegal under the old open rules and he paid the ultimate price.
I seem to remember several ultra high speed splats on the east coast. The 100km/h speed limit did not save them either.

The new limit has nothing to do with safety and a LOT to do with dogmatic agenda. If comrade claire is not rolled over this at the next election then it will be game over for ever.
Territorians, you are our last hope........

I said nothing about the speed limits at all saving lives , in fact I do believe I'd rather the open limits. Its not really about saving lives at all, just putting a limit there to show that there are boundaries... like any sort of driving, you drive to the conditions.

I just happened to know the bloke with the motorcycle. He was a mates uncle, a mad bike bloke who even wore a Jacket with the signage Up on 1.

Just naming a few experiences I have had with the Stuart highway.

As OutbackJack said that Clare Martin's position as Chief Minister is just about set in as the Bitumen that the Stuart Highway is made of. All Clare Martin has to do is not be associated with the CLP.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:04 AM   #10
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The CLP would do well to keep the reintroduction of (//) pledge (as policy) for 130km/h zones, regardless - if they were to be defeated at the next NT election or not. Losing an elections does not mean a particular policy is wrong, and (//) for those lengths of highway is 'right'.

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Old 10-08-2007, 08:40 PM   #11
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I shall try to to get in touch with Jodeen and pass on the threads comments.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:11 AM   #12
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Sadly, Jodeen's other policies are the ones that need work. This particular stand of hers has the support of the majority of territorians, but it alone won't be enough for her to roll Clare out the door. Territorians haven't yet forgotten/forgiven the Shane Stone years either.
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Old 16-09-2007, 12:18 AM   #13
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+1 for the reintroduction of mandatory sentencing. OBJ, i havent heard the CLP mention this once so far. i hope to hell Clare gets the boot, i mean, a water front project that no one was consulted about or wants, speed limits that no one was consulted about, and when challenged to show the statistics they refused, removal of mandatory sentencing that has seem junivial crime sky rocket cause those little bastards know that all they'll get is a slap on the wrist.....i know where im voting
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+1 for the reintroduction of mandatory sentencing. OBJ, i havent heard the CLP mention this once so far. i hope to hell Clare gets the boot, i mean, a water front project that no one was consulted about or wants, speed limits that no one was consulted about, and when challenged to show the statistics they refused, removal of mandatory sentencing that has seem junivial crime sky rocket cause those little bastards know that all they'll get is a slap on the wrist.....i know where im voting
I know what you mean!! i was born here in darwin and for the last six years claire and her socialist cronies have taken everything i used to love about the place and RUINED IT!! pity voting is compulsory as i have only voted in one election since i turned 18 (now 20) and that was the last NT Election,Kinda puts me off voting.But i am still going to have to vote i guess!.
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Old 16-09-2007, 11:11 AM   #16
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Default The road toll as of today.

http://www.nt.gov.au/pfes/index.cfm?...ion=page&p=148

Speed limits on some roads make no difference at all.
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I know what you mean!! i was born here in darwin and for the last six years claire and her socialist cronies have taken everything i used to love about the place and RUINED IT!! pity voting is compulsory as i have only voted in one election since i turned 18 (now 20) and that was the last NT Election,Kinda puts me off voting.But i am still going to have to vote i guess!.
Voting is important. Even if your vote is for the losing side, it can give the incumbent gov a fright if there is a big swing against them.

I am glad you are in Darwin, we need all the Jodeen voters we can get up there.
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Voting is important. Even if your vote is for the losing side, it can give the incumbent gov a fright if there is a big swing against them.

I am glad you are in Darwin, we need all the Jodeen voters we can get up there.
yeah I know its important.I just got disheartened that the first time i ever voted the member lost his seat and the party i voted for didn't get back in.
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yeah I know its important.I just got disheartened that the first time i ever voted the member lost his seat and the party i voted for didn't get back in.
Yeah, I know what you mean. But still, the tables can only turn if we all vote.

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