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Old 03-05-2008, 12:42 PM   #1
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Hello my fellow Forders. I've had a tank of petrol in my EF for over a year due to licence issues, lol. The car still starts and runs perfect on this fuel, is it a myth that petrol goes off over time? Now, with petrol prices skyrocketing towards $2 a litre, is it insane to stockpile the stuff while it's hovering around the $1.50 mark? A few massive sealed barrels of the stuff would'nt be hard to store.......clips on bullet proof vest, zips on flame suit and backs away from the PC... :gren:

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Old 03-05-2008, 12:55 PM   #2
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Not sure about the going off bit but condensation forms iso you will have quite a bit of water in the bottom of your tank.
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Old 03-05-2008, 01:10 PM   #3
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Yes, fuels (especially high octane fuels) do "go off".
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Old 03-05-2008, 01:16 PM   #4
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I thought high octane lasted longer than normal low octane I know it loses octane but I thought it lasted a lot longer
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Old 03-05-2008, 01:28 PM   #5
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No need for a long term investment - just buy 30,000L on a Tuesday before a long weekend for $1.30. Sell it on the long weekend from your roadside tanker at $1.43.

There's a 10% gain in a week and you'll undercut the servo's by a mile. Not sure what the council would think of you operating a mobile servo though!

edit - would be bloody funny to see a petrol tanker pull up at a servo to "fill up" with 30,000L
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Old 03-05-2008, 01:34 PM   #6
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edit - would be bloody funny to see a petrol tanker pull up at a servo to "fill up" with 30,000L
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Old 03-05-2008, 02:31 PM   #7
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And present 4 c/ltr discount voucher :
You'd save $12,000 by presenting you're docket? The servo would be spewin'. If the octane rating drops, I'll be kicking that little venture out the window, lol.
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And present 4 c/ltr discount voucher :
4c voucher only applies to the first 100 litres of fuel purchased.
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Old 03-05-2008, 03:49 PM   #9
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You'd save $12,000 by presenting you're docket? The servo would be spewin'. If the octane rating drops, I'll be kicking that little venture out the window, lol.
No, you'd save $1200.00. But if you spend $5 in store you would save another $1200.00.
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Old 03-05-2008, 04:02 PM   #10
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i think there's a addative you can buy for stale fuel.
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Old 03-05-2008, 04:33 PM   #11
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Most Fuel company's say there fuel will last for 1 year if stored correctly.

if stored right thou it will longer thou, It would have to be in a sealed drum kept elevated off the Floor like on a pallet kept somewhere were it is not exposed to moisture of temperature extremes.

You can buy a additive that is added to the fuel for when storing Fuel for a long time, Octane can be regained buy adding Tolulean to the Fuel if needed.

If you want to fill a dozed 44 gallon drums seal em up and drape em in Cool or Cosy insulation and stick em on a some pallets in the back of ya shed go for broke mate.
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Old 03-05-2008, 04:45 PM   #12
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I think many of us have contemplated doing this lol but it probably can be done as long as its stored right and kept out of harms way. People may laugh now but you'll be laughing when petrol goes up to 2 - 2.50cpl
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People have driven up in a servo with a tanker and taken 30 000 liters.They stole it , was on the news a couple of years ago.
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People have driven up in a servo with a tanker and taken 30 000 liters.They stole it , was on the news a couple of years ago.
Hilarious , seriously it could be a good idea if octane can be regained etc. would be laughing when people are paying $3 a litre :evil3: . Though probably a small risk with the lasting fuel condition.
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:18 PM   #15
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i would need some serious tanks with the juice i burn/guzzle
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Not to mention most houshold insurance policies won't cover damage caused if you store more than a small amount of fuel.
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Old 03-05-2008, 10:26 PM   #17
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apparently back in 70s or 80s i can't remember, my dad was saying that during the fuel shortage that was going around, people were storing petrol in barrels and they would regularly cause fires and mini explosions. so this thought is not exactly new.
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Old 04-05-2008, 12:52 PM   #18
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No need for a long term investment - just buy 30,000L on a Tuesday before a long weekend for $1.30. Sell it on the long weekend from your roadside tanker at $1.43.

There's a 10% gain in a week and you'll undercut the servo's by a mile. Not sure what the council would think of you operating a mobile servo though!

edit - would be bloody funny to see a petrol tanker pull up at a servo to "fill up" with 30,000L
Maybe u should export fuel from Qld to the southern states, the prices u guys pay are way better then down here. Sheik Scotty has a nice ring to it.
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Old 04-05-2008, 01:02 PM   #19
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Maybe u should export fuel from Qld to the southern states, the prices u guys pay are way better then down here. Sheik Scotty has a nice ring to it.
Tanker has a flat battery ;) You buy the gardenhoses, connectors & a funnel - I'll start pouring.
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Old 04-05-2008, 07:36 PM   #20
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Yes, fuels (especially high octane fuels) do "go off".
yeah when I had my mini the only fuel I could use was BP ultimate (the only 98 octane fuel available over here back then).
the car was off the road for 9 months getting the engine built and when we finished it wouldn't start - tried for ages but couldn't get it to fire at all. we thought the second-hand weber carb I'd bought had a problem but eventually tried some fresh fuel and that worked straight away...
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