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09-11-2016, 11:22 PM | #1 | |||
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10-11-2016, 08:40 AM | #2 | ||
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The Kia is pretty good looking & has more power than the Ford but also costs $6250.00 more.
a $44K Mondeo model would probably be the better car. the Skoda is nearly $50K Can anyone confirm the 6.4L/100 from the Skoda is accurate?
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10-11-2016, 09:55 AM | #3 | ||
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you'ed be a brave or stupid man to trust VW on anything they say.
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10-11-2016, 09:59 AM | #4 | ||
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All 3 are damn good cars.
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10-11-2016, 10:19 AM | #5 | ||
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The Mondeo would be my pick, the Skoda is a alright car too, my parents are searching for a new car and its between the Mondeo and the Skoda.
The kia, well it is overpriced for what it is, a kia and no more.
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10-11-2016, 10:24 AM | #6 | ||
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which one of these will tow my ski boat? or fit 3 kids across the back seat?
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10-11-2016, 11:15 AM | #7 | ||
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A mate has the 4x4 Skoda wagon, absolutely loves it. Has on occasion slept in the back and while it's not a full on 4wd, it's enough for his needs (lives in a bush shack, but I got my Falcon there, slowly). He also found during a hail storm that passed over his work, every other car had hail dents but his.
I don't have a family, but I guess these are the cars I'd be looking at if I was buying another car soon (well, i'd be looking at a Mustang, but I also wouldn't want to wait 12 months) I like the look of the Mondeo, and if they came out with an ST I reckon i'd be keen as mustard. |
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10-11-2016, 12:21 PM | #8 | |||
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I've actually considered the Superb 206TSI wagon, with just a tune it would be a very quick family car, tons of room, AWD and a bit of a sleeper. |
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10-11-2016, 12:32 PM | #9 | |||
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10-11-2016, 12:53 PM | #10 | |||
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goes to show the new family car IS a dual cab ute, the second family car would be one of these i still have a Falcon (mine) and Commodore (wifes) in the driveway but maybe i'm just behind the times and i need to wake up and get on this band wagon
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10-11-2016, 12:56 PM | #11 | |||
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They're not small, should easily fit 3 children. We had a XF falcon, fit 3 kids (1 with a child seat) and it had less width and leg room than a BA.
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10-11-2016, 01:02 PM | #12 | ||
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leg room is fine kids don't need much but the width is not great compared to a Commodore or Falcon, put in 2 baby seats and there is no room in the middle.
to me a family car is one you would load up and drive off on holidays comfortably. i guess thats why the dual cab ute is number 1 then then a corolla, just goes to show the large car (sedan/wagon) market is dying.
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10-11-2016, 01:11 PM | #13 | ||
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That just seemed too good to be true, but I've read the same in another review
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10-11-2016, 01:30 PM | #15 | ||
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Why would you say the Kia s just a Kia but infer that the Mondeo or WTF Skoda are better
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10-11-2016, 01:51 PM | #16 | |||
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I can see the appeal of them for a number of reasons but I’ll always be a sedan man. |
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10-11-2016, 02:06 PM | #17 | |||
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Wheels did a 10 car megatest a little while back. Optima came 5th, Superb 4th, Mondeo 2nd.
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10-11-2016, 03:53 PM | #18 | ||
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Because a kia is just that, a kia, nothing good in quality
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10-11-2016, 05:47 PM | #19 | |||
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Can you please measure your Falcon and tell me how much bigger it actually is?
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10-11-2016, 06:34 PM | #20 | ||
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I think what this discussion illustrates is that families these days have choice when it comes to the "family" car.
Once upon a time, there was but the choice of a large sedan/wagon in either Holden or Ford flavour (or Valiant/Mitsubishi/Nissan/Toyota if you were game). Now the term "family" car can cover many vehicle types, and all for proportionately similar money. Traditional sedans and wagons are now shopped against medium and large SUV's as well as the popular Pickups. Its the buyers luxury to now choose what they ultimately need rather than line up for yet another fleet sedan.
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10-11-2016, 07:59 PM | #21 | ||
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I presume the Skoda has the stop start technology same as Volkswagen? Which I consider as cheating fuel economy wise and I would never see a turbo vehicle with this tech as being long term reliable .....guess I'm just old school
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10-11-2016, 08:30 PM | #22 | |||
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Not sure if the Trend has this feature. The number one reason for choosing the Mondeo above similar vehicles was the overall finish and feel of the car. It feels like a $40k+ car whereas the others felt like a $20-30k car dressed up with a few bells and whistles. We paid $31k plus onroads for an ex-demo with 6K on the clock which is a reasonably priced car for one with all the features this one has. Couldn't be happier. Don't give a damn about the slight difference in economy compared to the others.
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Fair enough , my point about the economy being cheating is it just gives an unfair comparison when comparing figures with non stop start , and reliability wise can't see how turning a hot turbo off at the lights with no oil circulating through it then starting and going into instant acceleration when lights turn green.... you can't tell me that's good for it ? Apparently with vw you can't permanently disable it you have to do it each time you drive ?
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10-11-2016, 11:27 PM | #24 | |||
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All diesel Mondeos have auto stop/start. Agreed. The new Mondeo is a big step up from anything else in the Ford range in terms of interior fit and finish and refinement. It's simply a brilliant car for the money, packed full of features. An acquaintance who owns an F10 5-Series and a W212 E-class complimented me on just how nice the new Mondeo Titanium feels.
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10-11-2016, 11:43 PM | #25 | ||
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[QUOTE=NX74205;5809133]Are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure that auto stop/start is on diesel models only, but not available on petrol.
No I'm not 100% sure, I read something about it in the manual but because it didn't interest me, I never bothered to check it out. Interestingly, the manual didn't indicate it was for diesel engine versions only but that's nothing unusual. I'll have a closer look tomorrow.
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Thanks NX74205 for pointing out that it's only on the diesel models. Interestingly, the US Ecoboost engines in the Fusion and other cars have it and this Australian review site reports it as being "standard across the range" without any reference to the diesel engine only. http://australiancar.reviews/reviews...ondeo&gen=1124
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That was the 1970's when people used their family car for everything, because to be blunt the only four wheel drives available back then were bloody agricultural and rough as guts. If they'd have been comfortable and economical, people would have bought them back then. There was also no such thing as an SUV or dual cab ute back then. Times change. |
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11-11-2016, 01:47 PM | #29 | ||
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Mondeo is a decent car, but they look so close to the ground. Where did ride height in family cars go?
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That's why cars sold in Australia have to have different suspension tune to other countries. |
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