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Old 03-08-2016, 01:14 PM   #1
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Goes to show that you cant really rig the sale results for a month or so, as it all catches up down the track. And Ford only 200 cars from trumping Holden.

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BUYERS continue to be the big winners in an unprecedented small car price war.
The Toyota Corolla has ended the Hyundai i30’s record four-month winning streak, according to sales figures for July.
The Toyota Corolla overtook the Hyundai i30 after its sales hit the brakes once the Korean car’s previous discount of $7500 was removed.
The Hyundai i30 — which posted an 11-year sales high in June across all vehicle types — took a massive dive in July, with deliveries down by a staggering 65 per cent, from 6400 to just 2200.
For most of this year the Hyundai i30 hatchback has been priced at $19,990 drive-away for an automatic model, a discount of about $7500 off the full RRP.
But in July Hyundai increased the price to $22,990 drive-away for the i30 automatic.
That’s still a discount of $4500 off the full RRP, however it shows buyers are becoming more savvy about when to shop for a bargain.
Mazda was a casualty of the duel between the Corolla and the Hyundai, with sales of its small car down so dramatically that it failed to finish inside the Top 10 for the first time in memory.
It turns out it was caught short of its Mazda3 as the company switched from the old model to an updated version.

Despite the bitter battle at the top of the market, the Hyundai i30 narrowly holds onto the lead when sales for the first seven months of the year are tallied — even though it finished fourth in July.
The Hyundai i30 took a massive dive in July car sales.
The Hyundai i30 took a massive dive in July car sales.Source:Supplied
The big improvers were the Toyota HiLux and Ford Ranger pick-ups, both posting strong sales growth and finishing inside the Top Three.
Ford scored yet another win over Toyota, with the Ranger outselling the 4WD version of the HiLux pick-up for the fourth time in seven months, and the second month in a row.
But Toyota was still popping champagne corks, with the HiLux leading the Ranger when all models are counted, and having four vehicles inside the Top 10.
Hyundai outsold Holden for the seventh month in a row, Mitsubishi and Nissan continued to battle for sixth place, and Volkswagen again posted a sales slide after selling out of its Tiguan SUV ahead of the arrival of an all-new model.
Hyundai’s sister brand Kia continued to surge up the sales ladder, posting a 30 per cent increase on the same month last year as it aims to close the gap to its parent company.
In the process, Kia and Subaru once again edged Honda out of the Top 10.
With dealers still digesting cars reported as sold in June — but not yet delivered to paying customers — the bargains are expected to continue in August.
Note: Contrary to widespread belief, new car sales figures are based on claims by dealers and manufacturers, they are not based on new vehicle registrations.
Top 10 cars July 2016
Toyota Corolla, 3425 sales — down 4 per cent
Toyota HiLux, 3135 sales — up 22 per cent
Ford Ranger, 2865 sales — up 42 per cent
Hyundai i30, 2215 sales — down 19 per cent
Toyota Camry, 2170 — up 2 per cent
Mazda CX-5, 1930 — down 13 per cent
Holden Commodore, 1875 — down 9 per cent
Toyota RAV4, 1825 — up 18 per cent
Mazda CX-3, 1745 — up 36 per cent
Hyundai Accent, 1725 — up 145 per cent

Top 10 brands July 2016
Toyota, 17460 — up 3.7 per cent
Mazda, 8460 — down 9.5 per cent
Hyundai, 7600 — down 10.6 per cent
Holden, 7070 — down 10.4 per cent
Ford, 6870 — up 19.5 per cent
Mitsubishi, 5400 — up 4.2 per cent
Nissan, 5300 — up 7.5 per cent
Volkswagen, 4190 — down 14.5 per cent
Kia, 3550 — up 30.4 per cent
Subaru, 3350 — up 0.05 per cent
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Thanks for sharing the info, so different compared to this graph I recently found during research for a new book. Ford sold almost 80,000 Falcons in 1983. About 6,416 a month according to this.

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VFACTS - Ford Mustang Outsells Falcon, Territory, Kuga, Fiesta and Mondeo in July

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Great, more Camry's and Corolla's sold - just what we need.
4 hours ago I almost had an accident with a late model Camry driven by a fellow who looked like he just came off the set of Indian Jones and the Temple of Doom, because he indicated and turned into my lane, without looking to see if anyone was there. He was stationary behind a car turning right, I was doing the speed limit of 50km/h.
Why do Toyota drivers think putting the indicator on automatically makes a space?
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Ford up 20% for the month, and up significantly year to date.

But with Ford announcing that the Edge arrives over 12 months after Territory finishes, Falcon Ute now finished and Falcon gone by the end of the year, expect to see volume dip and deposit the brand to the back of the top 10.

Ranger and Mondeo will absorb some of the volume from departed Falcon sales, but neither of those are replacements for high powered sedans or comfortable utes. And no 7 seat family car for an extended period, lets see Ford PR gloss over this in the next year or so.

I usually give Ford the benefit of the doubt but the lift in sales this year is only going to be a blip and the usual witless, scattergun product planning will see business as usual resume soon.
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Ford up 20% for the month, and up significantly year to date.

But with Ford announcing that the Edge arrives over 12 months after Territory finishes, Falcon Ute now finished and Falcon gone by the end of the year, expect to see volume dip and deposit the brand to the back of the top 10.

Ranger and Mondeo will absorb some of the volume from departed Falcon sales, but neither of those are replacements for high powered sedans or comfortable utes. And no 7 seat family car for an extended period, lets see Ford PR gloss over this in the next year or so.

I usually give Ford the benefit of the doubt but the lift in sales this year is only going to be a blip and the usual witless, scattergun product planning will see business as usual resume soon.
How can they gloss over it, they've publically stated the approximate date of release is 2018 so as a buyer you wait or buy something else. Ford Australia cannot do anything about it. The 7 seat version of the Edge is much closer in rear cargo volume space to the Terry which is what I would prefer. And a 245kW V6 will have very few competitors in the same price range and would match the old Sy Terry turbo for performance.
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Thanks for sharing the info, so different compared to this graph I recently found during research for a new book. Ford sold almost 80,000 Falcons in 1983. About 6,416 a month according to this.

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So we blame 2002/2003 for the fall of the commo and falcon then?
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NO the BA is what put ford back on the Map after the disaster AU...
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Yeah i get that, but look at the graph from that point onwards, its a downward trend for both cars. Before that it was slightly steady with a varying growth and loss over the years before.
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Everyone just bought foreign cars . Nice avatar
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Ranger volume will continue to grow, and Kuga volume will get better too.

I'm tipping next years volume will be a little more than this years.

Watch out in 2018 though, things will really start to look good.
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Yep people couldn't stop spewing when they saw the AU. So they went and bought a commodore.
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Ranger and Mondeo will absorb some of the volume from departed Falcon sales, but neither of those are replacements for high powered sedans or comfortable utes. And no 7 seat family car for an extended period, lets see Ford PR gloss over this in the next year or so.
Isn't a big part of them killing off high powered sedans and comfortable utes the fact that bugger all people have been buying them?

I much prefer a sedan myself, but most people are going to SUVs. Probably so they have a better view in the sea of SUVs on the road.
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Part of the problem is over the years, cars have been built lower.SUV's are being bought because people have a better view of the road ahead,easier to get in and out of. Sitting up higher you can see the road ahead not the licence plate of the car in front!!!!!
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That's what I don't get.

SUV positive: high seating position.
Falcon negative: high seating position.
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Yep people couldn't stop spewing when they saw the AU. So they went and bought a commodore.
You know there were more AU's sold then BA's...and the VT sales climb started before the AU was released?
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SUV positive: high seating position.
Falcon negative: high seating position AND low steering position.
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Isn't a big part of them killing off high powered sedans and comfortable utes the fact that bugger all people have been buying them?

I much prefer a sedan myself, but most people are going to SUVs. Probably so they have a better view in the sea of SUVs on the road.
I suppose what I was trying to say is Falcon sedan, ute and Territory are at the moment forming about 1600 to 1800 sales per month. With no Territory replacement for 12 months and Falcon sedan and ute only partially being replaced by Mondeo/Ranger, the sales growth for the brand this year is wont last long.
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SUV positive: high seating position.
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Its not the high seating position, its the steering wheel in your crotch which is annoying.
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That's what I don't get.

SUV positive: high seating position.
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Cause it BS. Suv's are more family orientated. That market has been growing for a long time (hence the territory was created) while sedans and wagons were dying off.
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So we blame 2002/2003 for the fall of the commo and falcon then?
The way I see it 120 series Prado came out in 2003, Territory in 04, followed by many. now its twin cab utes

That's where Falcon and Commodore sales went.

But according to the media it was because people didn't want big cars anymore.
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The way I see it 120 series Prado came out in 2003, Territory in 04, followed by many. now its twin cab utes

That's where Falcon and Commodore sales went.

But according to the media it was because people didn't want big cars anymore.
Well, they were correct, they don't want large sedans...the typical "large" car...
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Not sure how this became a edge/territory thread

By communicating that the Edge wont be here until 2018, im sure Ford would be working with the dealer network to forecast and order what would be 1 year of territory stock to fill in the gap before the Edge comes?
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The graphical stats for this month have been uploaded into the Tech portal.

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