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14-07-2016, 09:57 PM | #1 | ||
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On all the news outlets trying to get the Focus RS 'Drift Mode' banned, citing death toll. All the mainstream media and Brian Owler etc have jumped on it. FFS- how does the death toll (predominently intoxication, fatigue, distracted etc) have anything to do with this 'Drift Mode'?
I was going to ask why make obviously misleading claims linking the drift mode to the death toll, but I already know the answer. Because the media jumps on it and gives it momentum, makes him feel important, so he can go home and brag to his wife before donning 10-layers of rubber. Here's a fact: Most new cars on sale today have switchable stability control, meaning the driver can press a button to take away their safety net, allow them to lose grip and cause an accident but where are you on that one mate? |
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14-07-2016, 11:58 PM | #3 | ||
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I honestly despise people like Scrubby (and the Greens, etc)
They are nothing but malcontents who think they have some God given right to tell everyone else how to think and how to live our lives. Now personally, I think "drifting" is for bogans who haven't figured out how to drop a burnout, but each to their own. No doubt many "Drifters" would find my chosen pastimes dull & boring. |
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15-07-2016, 12:03 AM | #4 | ||
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I've only read Dowlings article and it wouldn't surprise if it was the first. Always up for the sensational to increase his e-circulation
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15-07-2016, 12:11 AM | #5 | ||
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That toss pot needs a one way ticket to Mars, where he'll never see a car again, and where we'll never hear his name mentioned again
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15-07-2016, 12:26 AM | #6 | ||
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Will somebody think of the children!
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15-07-2016, 12:34 AM | #7 | ||
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We should gearbox him. Anyone know where he lives?
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15-07-2016, 01:31 AM | #8 | |||
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15-07-2016, 05:09 AM | #9 | ||
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Ford must be loving this, awesome free advertising for the Focus RS!
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15-07-2016, 09:14 AM | #10 | ||
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Well they got rid of the line lock feature on the mustang so who knows. Ford could probably have been a bit smarter with this and called it track mode or competion mode or something like this. it's all in the wording for these simple tree hugging,Camry driving, cardigan wearing ,only rooting for making kids type of idiots.
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15-07-2016, 09:34 AM | #11 | ||
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The guy must lead a very very sad life indeed.
Typically with people of late getting all upset about anything and everything; they only know of a small part of it, i.e. Drift Mode, not knowing how it works, the process to engage it, etc. Just that it is there. If these people would instead go and sample it I'd believe their opinion on it might be less vocal. The other problem with the argument is the so called road statistics. They cover everything, pedestrians, cyclists and vehicles and no matter the scenario. So to just generalise and reference them in a baseless argument without quoting exact stats i.e. pedestrian deaths caused by out of control cars driven in a dangerous manner, is just not worth the effort.
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15-07-2016, 10:34 AM | #12 | ||
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Track mode should therefore be banned on all cars Harold. Makes the suspension too stiff (might give you hemorrhoids), the steering overly heavy (might break grandmas arms), the accelerator too touchy (you might get 100 when you meant 60), and is generally a safety nightmare if switched on on a public road which is where we'll all use it because we are all as dumb as you think we are.
Scruby, go get HSV with their over torqued (clearly designed for burnouts) LSA and this horrendous track mode thing. (maybe he has, but nobody listened to protect the Lion which does no wrong) Should've hidden Drift in the settings menu like everyone else perhaps
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15-07-2016, 03:11 PM | #13 | ||
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On a nicer note, I happened by chance upon a show about the design and building of the RS last night on Foxtel.
Keep an eye on the new BE-IN (sp?) sports channel. Foxtel being Foxtel it will be replayed 1000 times. As for Scruby, nuff said already.
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15-07-2016, 04:15 PM | #14 | ||
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15-07-2016, 04:18 PM | #16 | ||
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PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY
...obviously Scruby, 7 News, News.com.au and all the other hysterical morons don't realise you can also turn off traction and stability control on 99% of cars on the road. Ford should tell them all to get stuffed. |
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15-07-2016, 04:39 PM | #17 | ||
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Drift mode??? Regardless if you can turn it off !!! What the F were they thinking.. Just catering to the Hoon element.. Seriously stupid.
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15-07-2016, 04:45 PM | #18 | ||
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15-07-2016, 07:01 PM | #21 | ||
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All they have done is given this car more publicity. Have they even demonstrated this mode on anywhere but a track or closed road?
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15-07-2016, 07:30 PM | #22 | |||
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15-07-2016, 07:40 PM | #23 | ||
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Driven stupid enough anyone can drift any old 500 dollar clunker into a group of people and cause death whether or not it has some form of evil drift mode or not. These guys have to get over this RS as soon as possible...
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15-07-2016, 07:52 PM | #24 | |||
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15-07-2016, 08:27 PM | #25 | ||
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...and people thinking a magic button will turn them into a Keiichi Tsuchiya in an instant is going to be in for a nasty wake up call. Burnouts are usually done at fairly slow sleeds...drifting is done in corners at higher speeds. As you said, any idiot can do a burnout, and usually not much comes of it. However if people start trying to drift...
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15-07-2016, 09:12 PM | #26 | ||
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While I like the idea of a performance mode, or ability to disable traction and stability control I feel calling it "drift mode" (if thats the actual Ford term) is stupid and its no wonder if it gets banned.
Basically, the term alone "drift mode" means "illegal activity mode" however its not illegal to have "performance" on the street. |
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15-07-2016, 09:26 PM | #27 | |||
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15-07-2016, 09:29 PM | #28 | ||
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What I cant understand is why Ford disabled the line lock feature on the Mustang for fear of public ridicule yet the Focus RS drift mode was deemed ok.
As mentioned, a burnout happens at much lower speeds than a drift.
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15-07-2016, 09:30 PM | #29 | ||
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I thought the handbrake was the drift button?
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15-07-2016, 09:33 PM | #30 | ||
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Maybe someone should run Scrubby over. Shame he doesnt live in Perth
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