Ranger Outsells Hilux

munners · 03-09-2015, 07:19 PM

Sorry if this is posted elsewhere.

Just got a message that Ranger outsold Hilux for the first time ever?

Good work Ford (yeah i know new Hilux is around the corner but a win is a win)

Munners

borough · 03-09-2015, 07:22 PM

Don't get too excited as it was the old Hilux vs the updated Ranger. Even the Triton outsold the Hilux. Once the new Hilux is released it will be back above the Ranger

rancidpunx · 03-09-2015, 08:27 PM

In NZ the Ranger outsold the Hilux all of last year, and it is ahead this year.

simon varley · 03-09-2015, 08:59 PM

doubt the updated Ranger is here in sufficient numbers yet to make a mark.

sprintman1 · 03-09-2015, 09:20 PM

Still crap compared to a D-MAX

turbo4 · 03-09-2015, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by simon varley

doubt the updated Ranger is here in sufficient numbers yet to make a mark.

I'm fairly certain they weren't released until late August so you're probably right. In saying that though, there are heaps at the local dealer and I have probably already seen more new Rangers than FGX Falcons on the road in the last week or so.

naddis01 · 03-09-2015, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Still crap compared to a D-MAX

Can you elaborate?

eb2fairmont · 03-09-2015, 09:35 PM

gonna get the popcorn for this...

FG50T · 03-09-2015, 09:57 PM

Congrats to Ranger but there's a long list of pre-orders for the new Hilux. Toyota has been clearing stock of the current model all year anyway and with release 2 weeks away (give or take) you'd be mad to buy a Hilux now.

Bossxr8 · 03-09-2015, 10:04 PM

A win's a win.

SM1DY · 03-09-2015, 10:08 PM

I wonder if there will be any run-out sales on old Ranger's and Hilux's?

mac_man_luke · 03-09-2015, 10:28 PM

Its so surprising the Ranger has not been outselling the hilux for at least a year or two.

All i see on the road is Rangers, so many more than hilux'es

sprintman1 · 03-09-2015, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

Can you elaborate?

Engineering, build quality. For example look at a 4JJ1 con rod compared to the 'others'.

4VCLEVO · 03-09-2015, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Engineering, build quality. For example look at a 4JJ1 con rod compared to the 'others'.

Here's my 4JJ1, melted piston after 150,000km

deluxe_ · 03-09-2015, 11:08 PM

Ownage Continues.

sprintman1 · 04-09-2015, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 4VCLEVO

Here's my 4JJ1, melted piston after 150,000km
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As you well know one failure almost certainly from bad fuel means bugger all. Isuzu set the std for reliability and one of the reasons Toyota signed to use Isuzu diesels in their trucks and cars worldwide. Most of the mines and power companies have also moved to Isuzu.

Franco Cozzo · 04-09-2015, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Still crap compared to a D-MAX

The D-Max is the Colorado's deformed twin, its 130KW/380NM engine belongs back in 2005.

sprintman1 · 04-09-2015, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

The D-Max is the Colorado's deformed twin, its 130KW/380NM engine belongs back in 2005.

Another sucked in by peak figures. Look at area under the curve for towing

Franco Cozzo · 04-09-2015, 06:02 AM

Its peak torque is at 1800RPM, which is 380NM.

That's only 40NM more and 200RPM quicker than my TDCI Focus when it was standard

sprintman1 · 04-09-2015, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

Its peak torque is at 1800RPM, which is 380NM.

That's only 40NM more and 200RPM quicker than my TDCI Focus when it was standard

and is used in 4500kg trucks. Try that with your TDCI sewing machine motor

**Giant Cranium** · 04-09-2015, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

The D-Max is the Colorado's deformed twin, its 130KW/380NM engine belongs back in 2005.

Still the ute I'd spend my money on. Can't beat truck reliability. Brother inlaw has a Colorado with the 2.8 and it is quick but vibrates like hell and blew up at 137km. Now the new motor uses 4.5l of oil per 15000km

Franco Cozzo · 04-09-2015, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

and is used in 4500kg trucks. Try that with your TDCI sewing machine motor

Yeah those trucks that can't maintain 80kmh coming up Gap Hill on the Calder freeway unloaded, I know the ones

sprintman1 · 04-09-2015, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

Yeah those trucks that can't maintain 80kmh coming up Gap Hill on the Calder freeway unloaded, I know the ones

I've driven several that could easily do that, benefit of working for a Ford dealership that sells Isuzu. We also had to move apprentices from Isuzu service to Ford service as all they'd done were oil/filter changes though one had changed two injectors in two years. In the Ford service area they get to do real repairs, especially manual gearboxes!

Terror_Tree · 04-09-2015, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Still crap compared to a D-MAX

Haters gonna hate

sprintman1 · 04-09-2015, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Terror_Tree

Haters gonna hate

Actually no, Ranger would be my second choice. Hate is a Navara or Amarok (worked at Nissan/VW stealership).

Vesper Martini · 04-09-2015, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Still crap compared to a D-MAX

Your comments' in another thread encouraged me to look into the DMAX more.

What I found was despite the others having better power and torque figures the D-Max had the best 0-100 time.

all except the 550NM Navarra (old model now)

it also offered the best fuel economy.

yes its has older tech, and looks a bit bland compared to the others but it stacks up well.

the others aren't Crap though, they beat it on looks and refinement

XR8putts · 04-09-2015, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rancidpunx

In NZ the Ranger outsold the Hilux all of last year, and it is ahead this year.

Like there needed to be further proof that Kiwis are smarter than Aussies

sprintman1 · 04-09-2015, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bevsta007

Your comments' in another thread encouraged me to look into the DMAX more.

What I found was despite the others having better power and torque figures the D-Max had the best 0-100 time.

all except the 550NM Navarra (old model now)

it also offered the best fuel economy.

yes its has older tech, and looks a bit bland compared to the others but it stacks up well.

the others aren't Crap though, they beat it on looks and refinement

It kills the others on reliability. These days that and fuel efficiency and towing capability are all that interest me, looks and refinement meh

EDManual · 04-09-2015, 11:37 AM

have a new model dmax 3.0 (manual), and would you believe I get 7.5-7.8 litres per hundred, and thats with it floored everywhere, and sitting on at least 110 on the highways. Cant believe it actually!
My light comes on at around 880km usually, I ran it to 980km (100 on the light) Filled up and did ~7.5!

In saying that it is a work car, and the last driver has worn the synchro in 3rd, and its going in for a week long gearbox pull apart! (80,000km). They say that the gearbox is straight from a landcrusier ute.

Sioso · 04-09-2015, 11:38 AM

One tonne Renault pick-up entering the mix next year:
http://www.carsales.com.au/editorial...revealed-53638