I have a mate...

[fgpsi]

I have a mate that has a VE SS with a tune and exhaust. Only made 220 rwkws on the dyno, this guy thinks his SS is the ducks guts (thinks it'll do low 12s) and thinks it will beat any Ford/FPV without any issues.

Numerous times I've told him that a stock F6 or even FG XR6T would eat him for brekky but he just won't listen. Drives it like a flog too, always flat stick.

Thought it would be a good opportunity for you guys to share your stories about that delusional mate you might have who does the same thing..

[Cashie]

220kW sounds a bit low, generally about 250-270kW with exhaust and tune in my experience.
The turbo 6 is certainly likely to show him up.

[buggo]

That a 317 Clubby would smash a 315GS because it says it has 2 extra kilowatts. Doesn't even get that ones NA and ones SC, nup - more peak power equals quicker no ifs no buts. An XR6t has no chance...

Same goes with the 340 Clubby and GT, even R spec

[fgpsi]

Originally Posted by Cashie

220kW sounds a bit low, generally about 250-270kW with exhaust and tune in my experience.

Yeah I thought so too but it's an ex cop car also thinks it's quicker due to the cops modifying it haha

[jaydee]

This is going to end in disaster...

[Chopped]

Sounds like you all have bogan mates.

[chookaradley]

Sounds like a typical commodore driver to me...

[commonrails]

Originally Posted by Cashie

220kW sounds a bit low, generally about 250-270kW with exhaust and tune in my experience.
The turbo 6 is certainly likely to show him up.

Everyone know's that it's 220kW without a chev badge and 250-270kW with a chev badge.

[LoudPipes]

A VE SS achieving only 220rwkw from an exhaust and tune?

Even when the motors are new and tight they pull a minimum of 270rwkw.

I’d be asking for my money back quick smart, it sounds like a bad tune and I’d be taking it to a real tuner in case it drops its guts everywhere.

[STINKY NINJA]

I have an old pair of explorer socks with holes in them that make more than 220rwkw...

[fgpsi]

Originally Posted by LoudPipes

A VE SS achieving only 220rwkw from an exhaust and tune?

Even when the motors are new and tight they pull a minimum of 270rwkw.

I’d be asking for my money back quick smart, it sounds like a bad tune and I’d be taking it to a real tuner in case it drops its guts everywhere.

Vcm did it

[STINKY NINJA]

And boy are they fasttttttt!
I bet theyd beat your mates car easy....

[chookaradley]

Originally Posted by LoudPipes

A VE SS achieving only 220rwkw from an exhaust and tune?

Even when the motors are new and tight they pull a minimum of 270rwkw.

I’d be asking for my money back quick smart, it sounds like a bad tune and I’d be taking it to a real tuner in case it drops its guts everywhere.

270kw at the rears new? no way. 220kw after a tune sounds about right for one of those ****boxes

[lucas2]

Could just be the dyno, what was the stock figure? They usually pull 200-220 stock and 250+ after a tune w/exhaust.

[MITCHAY]

My mate had an exhaust, tune and OTR for his VE SS Redline and pulled 258rwkw supposedly.

I don't know if that is enough to run 12s but considering they make 270fwkw stock I'd imagine it would go pretty hard. I liked it even when it was stock, I wouldn't bother to do too many mods.

[xisled]

Find someone with a fpv and run him down the quarter. I think you might be surprised with the outcome.

This is a easy way tho see who has the quickest car.

[40RDT]

Originally Posted by fgpsi

I have a mate that has a VE SS with a tune and exhaust. Only made 220 rwkws on the dyno, this guy thinks his SS is the ducks guts (thinks it'll do low 12s) and thinks it will beat any Ford/FPV without any issues.

Numerous times I've told him that a stock F6 or even FG XR6T would eat him for brekky but he just won't listen. Drives it like a flog too, always flat stick.

Thought it would be a good opportunity for you guys to share your stories about that delusional mate you might have who does the same thing..

If you really want him to believe that stock a stock fg xr6t is faster than his car why not line it up with your xr6t and do a few runs?

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by fgpsi

Numerous times I've told him that a stock F6 or even FG XR6T would eat him for brekky but he just won't listen.

Standard F6 yes, standard XR6T no. A 6.0 with a full exhaust/decent tune, an auto behind it and capable rubber will be in the 12s. If he's running Nankangs on the rear like every other bogan, forget it. Also ignore dyno numbers, they're all different, take it to the track and tell us the MPH.

[chookaradley]

Is the VE Commodore the most overrated car in Australian motoring history?.. Serious question

[Parfrey]

270rwkw stock? dreaming!
I went to a dyno day recently, My GT made 350rwkw (lower than it read at bluepower)... As a comparison 2 mates VE SS's made 215rwkw (auto) and 225rwkw (man). Both had exhaust/intake/tune. Slooooowwwwwww!

[zilo]

No way an SS is 270 rwkw.

The pushrods would be bent after one launch...

[40RDT]

Pretty sure he meant a new 6L SS with those mods usually gets around 270rwkw not 270rwkw from the factory

[LoudPipes]

Originally Posted by 40RDT

Pretty sure he meant a new 6L SS with those mods usually gets around 270rwkw not 270rwkw from the factory

Correct.
270 after an exhaust and tune is considered the average rear wheel output for a VE 6 litre.
Still it’s not worth arguing about, the strip is the place to put it to rest if need be.

[zilo]

270 kw at the wheels ...50kw at the wheels extra on a NA engine with just exhaust and tune...no cams, no bigger injectors etc?

I say BS...

[Boza]

Originally Posted by fgpsi

I have a mate that has a VE SS with a tune and exhaust. Only made 220 rwkws on the dyno, this guy thinks his SS is the ducks guts (thinks it'll do low 12s) and thinks it will beat any Ford/FPV without any issues.

Numerous times I've told him that a stock F6 or even FG XR6T would eat him for brekky but he just won't listen. Drives it like a flog too, always flat stick.

Thought it would be a good opportunity for you guys to share your stories about that delusional mate you might have who does the same thing..

Sounds like any other typical commodore ss owner to me.

[castellan]

Originally Posted by LoudPipes

Correct.
270 after an exhaust and tune is considered the average rear wheel output for a VE 6 litre.
Still it’s not worth arguing about, the strip is the place to put it to rest if need be.

Rubbish !
How can a car that is rated by Holden with 260 270 ECE KW make that at the rear wheels.
The ECE figures do not lie.
Dyno figures can lie.

[blueoval]

Wait's for HULK to queue in his 'supercharger/turbo' shpeel.

Take it to the track and show him whose boss with the F6. /end thread

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by LoudPipes

A VE SS achieving only 220rwkw from an exhaust and tune?

Even when the motors are new and tight they pull a minimum of 270rwkw.

I’d be asking for my money back quick smart, it sounds like a bad tune and I’d be taking it to a real tuner in case it drops its guts everywhere.

270 RW-KW (at the back wheels!) for a Commondoor SS ?

Might I enlighten you that even the current SS 6.0L is OEM (Flywheel) rated @ 260 KW for the Auto and 270 Kw for the Manual - and ON 98 octane.

[40RDT]

Originally Posted by zilo

270 kw at the wheels ...50kw at the wheels extra on a NA engine with just exhaust and tune...no cams, no bigger injectors etc?

I say BS...

Exhaust, intake and tune should get you around 270rwkw, add a cam and you're looking at 300+

[fgpsi]

Boys vcm did it

It's a black ex cop car, vcm did say they were surprised at how low the gain was