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02-03-2010, 12:52 AM
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Hi people. One of my mate had a little accident last week. His front bar is gone. He drives 2006 350Z track model. Absolute beauty. We went to Nissan together to get a new front bar. I was expecting 350z front bar to be so expensive. I thought, I am driving an Aussie car so parts should be much cheaper than the imports. We picked up brand spanking new plastic genuine 350Z front bar for $400. I couldn't believe it. Ford quoted me $1500 for the Ba xr6 front bar. This is unbelievable. I told my mate and he laughed at me. Now how the f..k a local car manufacturer's parts are more expensive than the imports? I can't believe it
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02-03-2010, 12:57 AM
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Mate I'm right on you with this one, qouted $1400+ for a BF XR front bar. ~$1000 trade price. And personally... fit & finish on some of these bars is not spot on.
It's just a joke. Can't say it would help much with insurance premiums. I'm sure the insurance companys calculate these things when they are working out insurance rates too. |
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02-03-2010, 01:08 AM
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Mercury XR6
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just about $2000 for painted front bar. What a rip off
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02-03-2010, 01:10 AM
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Try having a FPV. $700 x 2 for the grilles, $270 x 2 for the foglight surrounds, $700 for the lower intake insert and you haven't even paid for the bar, fog lights and painting yet.
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02-03-2010, 01:12 AM
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There's only so many BA XR6/XR8's
Economies of scale, I'd imagine, would probably have something to do with it. |
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02-03-2010, 01:17 AM
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Mercury XR6
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They are doing everything they can to make people hate Ford.
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02-03-2010, 01:19 AM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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whats a BA/BF XT front bar worth??
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02-03-2010, 01:29 AM
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Mercury XR6
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I gave up going to Ford after quoted $250 for piano black cup holder.
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02-03-2010, 01:36 AM
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Manufacturers make their money not so much from the initial sale, but from spare parts over the life of the car. With the volumes produced in Oz, each component will cost more than some other cars. I'm still surprised that the 350Z bar was only $400, but not surprised at Ford's prices at all!
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02-03-2010, 01:37 AM
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Mercury XR6
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Some of my mates told me holden is worst than Ford.
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02-03-2010, 05:42 AM
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I remember reading an article years ago about the time BA was introduced saying that the falcon was one of the cheapest cars to repair bar none
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02-03-2010, 05:42 AM
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If you are only producing about 56,000 Falcons of various models, and then break down unique parts to the various models, yeah, I would imagine that the parts would be expensive.
Here in the US a car selling only 56,000 units would be slated for removal from the line-up because it would not be cost effective. Yeah, economy of scale has to be a huge factor for Ford of Australia. Steve
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02-03-2010, 07:46 AM
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if you look at the parts and the way they're priced, a large chunk of the more 'desirable' parts (XR, FPV, ghia) are priced a LOT higher than your joe basic replacement part.
Much of this has to do with model protection. Or at least thats the excuse Ford give us....
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02-03-2010, 07:46 AM
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The 350z bumper fits on the 350z only (AFAIK)
I guess Ford don't want people buying a base model and cheaply making it look like a GT or XR.
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02-03-2010, 07:55 AM
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a ba xt front bar is about $280 from ford ,so a lot cheaper than the 350z.the reason they charge so much for the xr6 and xr8 bar is because they dont want people like you and me changing their xt to look like and xr.
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02-03-2010, 07:59 AM
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02-03-2010, 08:02 AM
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I got a quote yeterday for a 260 Boss motor, brand new, with no accessories. Anyone want to guess the price?
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02-03-2010, 08:07 AM
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02-03-2010, 08:12 AM
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A mate is up for a new rear bar for a new Nissan GTR after the bloke decided to brake checked him while he was in his truck.... i'll let you know what that one costs!!
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02-03-2010, 08:21 AM
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02-03-2010, 08:21 AM
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02-03-2010, 08:22 AM
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02-03-2010, 08:33 AM
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$214 for ONE piece of the DC LTD front bar chrome strip - there are 2 (one either side).
Then you pay for the bar itself...
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02-03-2010, 08:35 AM
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Barra Turbo > V8
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02-03-2010, 09:16 AM
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http://fordracingparts.com.au/engine_complete_10.html Last edited by Outback; 02-03-2010 at 09:30 AM. |
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02-03-2010, 09:17 AM
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And to think one of the reasons you used to buy Ford/Holden was because the parts and servicing was cheaper. Another reason to buy local thrown back in our faces. Thanks a lot Ford [/sarcasm]
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02-03-2010, 09:29 AM
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Some parts a cheaper genuine then after market,as I found out when i bought a fan belt.
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02-03-2010, 09:31 AM
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Sourced a front bar for my AU Fairmont from the wreckers and it was $125 new in a box also a new in the box a radiator for my Fairmont for $100
but a radiator header tank (the egg crate one) $125 from Ford so what gives John |
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02-03-2010, 09:36 AM
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If we are talking economies of scale being the factor then maybe the issue is that the locally procuced models are primarily sold only in OZ. Meaning that say a Corolla for eg. is sold world wide ie. a shed load, so therefore while it is an imported model the parts should be cheaper as there are SO many produced and sold worldwide. While the local models total sales probably would not be that impressive when compared with other models sold around the world so therefore not as many parts produced and sold so higher prices???......
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02-03-2010, 10:43 AM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Do Ford still require a VIN to purchase T-Series parts? They used to - they took model protection seriously. Still do going by the outragous prices. Surely economies of scale dont account for the entire price difference between XT and XR - I see as many XR's on the road as XT's. Even a lot of the FG taxis in Melbourne are XR6's now. |
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Why Ford sells the parts so expensive?
Front bar
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