Really stupid comment on news.com.au about Falcon... (pic)

[honer]

Just looking at the news.com.au article about the Falcon winning the Car of the Year Award..


On the front page until the title it contained this blurb;



What kind of stupid comment is this ???? Whats "In a blow to hoons" meant to mean ??

Friggin idiots...

[Biggav]

yeh saw that who hires these journos nowdays....?

plus they took away the comment section so cant tell em to get a real job haha

[blueoval]

I think their saying that the FG isnt a car most young drivers wouldn't regard as hoon car.

[ltd_on20s]

what?? news.com has told us the falcon XT cannot be a hoon car? ill print it off and give it to people i know with XT's so when they get pulled over they can say "but officer, news.com proved this is not a hoon car...look!" lol

[mcflux]

Originally Posted by blueoval

I think their saying that the FG isnt a car most young drivers wouldn't regard as hoon car.

I'd more than happily prove them wrong :P

[MAD]

So what is the 'hoon' car the FG was up against?

[irlewy86]

I think they are having a subtle swipe at the large young demographic who hold one of the Falcon's competitors on a pedestal.

i.e "Bogans turn red as lion is slayed"
or "Young hooligans who think the Commodore is the worlds best car must eat humble pie after finding oout its not even Australia's best."
or
"Josh Dowling on suicide watch, VE fails to make t to Best cars finals"

[Bad Bird]

"Josh Dowling on suicide watch, VE fails to make t to Best cars finals"

Buy this man a beer. That is sheer gold.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by honer

Just looking at the news.com.au article about the Falcon winning the Car of the Year Award..


On the front page until the title it contained this blurb;



What kind of stupid comment is this ???? Whats "In a blow to hoons" meant to mean ??

Friggin idiots...

Surprised you don't see that as a compliment.

To me, it suggests that the hoon vehicle of choice if the Commodore. Would appear to me that Ford marketing is working.

[XRtowcar]

I'm completely disgusted.


Hugh Jackman singing happy birthday to Britney Spears?

[ThePistonHead]

Originally Posted by Rodp

Surprised you don't see that as a compliment.

To me, it suggests that the hoon vehicle of choice if the Commodore. Would appear to me that Ford marketing is working.

Yes, that is what came to mind for me.

Quite funny actually...

[Spanrz]

Originally Posted by XRtowcar

I'm completely disgusted.
Hugh Jackman singing happy birthday to Britney Spears?

LOL.... I can see who's getting the "blow" tonight.

And it ain't Ford's FG!

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by XRtowcar

I'm completely disgusted.


Hugh Jackman singing happy birthday to Britney Spears?

Seen her lately? I'd be having a crack at it too. Go Hugh!

[vanman_75]

i read it the other way ,that hoons drive falcons and would be upset that it won "family car"

[JACK250]

Originally Posted by vanman_75

i read it the other way ,that hoons drive falcons and would be upset that it won "family car"

Yeah that's what I though as well

[xr8-200]

I see it the same way as vanman. It is meant to be degrading to the falcon/falcon drivers.

[Mark351]

I've already registered by complaint via the submit a story tip.

[Pedro]

I saw it and my immediate thought was " another piece of journalistic crap to denegrate Falcons in a concerted media effort to send Ford Australia to the wall like they did with the 380".

[dave351cid]

i heard on the radio today about the falcon winning top gong against toyota and honda. the commo didnt even get a mention.

as for the printed comment above ??? no idea what their on about there , please explain.

ohh and you should be carefull using red pen to highlight things too, wouldn`t want to offend anyone.

[Airmon]

Didn't TGA prove this wrong? When the Omega stalled when 'hooning' and the XT didnt?

[colossus]

I guess reading comprehension isn't a strong point for some.

[EgoFG]

Originally Posted by xr8-200

I see it the same way as vanman. It is meant to be degrading to the falcon/falcon drivers.

Although the actual article is positive (though short)

[SM1DY]

The way I have percieved it, is that hoon aren't allowed to drive 'Family car of the year'.

Take that Holden, now you get all the hoons that have been banished from the ranks of the Ford Falcon!

[westoftown]

Originally Posted by Airmon

Didn't TGA prove this wrong? When the Omega stalled when 'hooning' and the XT didnt?

Can someone explain to the less mechanically minded such as myself how it is possible to actually stall an auto? (slightly off topic)

[Swordsman88]

Originally Posted by westoftown

Can someone explain to the less mechanically minded such as myself how it is possible to actually stall an auto? (slightly off topic)

Oh you can stall them alright - i've heard a few stories of it and strangely enough (not a word of a lie here) they were all commodores. Honestly.

Baring mechanical problems with the engine itself (poor idle etc.) i thin the two most common reasons are;

-lack of torque converter unlock. autos lock-up to save fuel (usually in higher gears, but modern ones do it at lower speeds/gears too) and if they don't unlock again due to failure or stupid auto programming they force the engine to run the rear wheels at all times - like a manual with the clutch out. This obviously stalls the engine when at a standstill.

- Electronic interventions (most likely here), where the esp or traction control retard spark during certain monouvers, and/or controls auto gear selection. The car can become 'confused' when doing handbreak turns etc. and retard spark/fuel at a bad time and it will stall the engine.

This sort of problem happens to many manufacturers (Fifth gear had problems handbrake turning a new mitsu evo recently) but usually the won't stall because they are programmed properly to realise what is happening, and simply unlock the converter/engage clutch automatically (for DGS transmissions) and go into 'neutral' effectively.

It would appear that Holden has not done this properly and/or the car has mechanical issues. I woudl say that useless 4sp auto is too dumb to have th enecessary computer power to tune these things.

Oh and i don't really get the point of this 'blow to hoons' either. Maybe it is about commodores being bought by hoons or is just insulting the base aussie six (clearly frome someone who has never driven one - they would make a great hooning car LOL!)

[uranium_death]

The XF had a period where it stalled a lot. THe engine wasn't in the best nick, and I wouldn't rave about the 3-speed auto either.

Ultra Tune did not help with anything, so we went to our Mobil Car Care, and to this day, they have never let us down.

[SM1DY]

Originally Posted by westoftown

Can someone explain to the less mechanically minded such as myself how it is possible to actually stall an auto? (slightly off topic)

My sister stalled our Auto AU2 Falcon when she was a learner. Hit a kerb (more-so nudge it very gentley) and the car stalled.

Also on the skid pan at the Holden performance centre, a mate from school spun the car and it started going backwards while still in drive and the car stalled.

I don't how the mechanics behind these two incidents, maybe someone could elaborate.

[Swordsman88]

Originally Posted by SM1DY

My sister stalled our Auto AU2 Falcon when she was a learner. Hit a kerb (more-so nudge it very gentley) and the car stalled.

This one sounds like steering pump issue to me (wild guess so don't hold me to it). With falcons (i find EF-AU) the steering pump can take a fair bit of power from the engine and at full lock under some circumstances the car can almost stall when idling (in Drive). your sister might have had lock on when it hit the curb, the pump fought against it and the combination of no throttle ( i assume), the curb and steering pump stalled the engine.

Originally Posted by SM1DY

Also on the skid pan at the Holden performance centre, a mate from school spun the car and it started going backwards while still in drive and the car stalled.

I don't how the mechanics behind these two incidents, maybe someone could elaborate.

Well if you have the car going in the wrong direction at enough pace the torque converter will provide sufficient resistance to stall the engine. If you try putting your car into reverse when still rolling lightly forward in a car park you can feel the resitance. (or vice-versa). If you are moving very quickly the wrong way i suppose it would stall (once again, most modern cars realise all this and go into neutral to overule you).

[Hillbilly F Truck]

Originally Posted by Ghia5L

I'd more than happily prove them wrong :P

[outback_ute]

I think with the Commodore on TGA it is a case of not allowing any throttle when the handbrake is engaged, a calibration issue (& anti-hoon feature)