Teens get takeaway food at fatal crash

[DoreSlamR]

Pretty disgusting really, I'm lost for words

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574...-29277,00.html

Mr Waymouth said he was "disgusted" by their behaviour. "They just stood there, and then they sat down and then someone dropped Maccas off to them," he said. "What is it with young people where they can just turn off to human injury?" said Mr Atzori.

[Daymoe]

That reminds me of the southpark movie where Jay Leno or some talk show host rats out terrance and phillip, then he jumps out of the window from a high rise building and lands on a car dead, the guy runs out and turns his car alarm off and goes back in completely avoiding the dead guy splattered on his car.

Thats disgusting, even for someone to come and drop off Maccas to them, then watch the guy die without attempting to help.

[mik]

what a bunch of scumbags comes to mind,.... not much else too say.

[gcg2503]

Was going to start a thread about this yesterday when i first saw it but couldnt out of sheer rage

Best i log off now

[ten[A]cio[U]s]

Thats pathetic.. They caused an accident, killed the man, and couldnt even bloody help. That amazes me to start off with. Then to have maccas dropped off. Fekn idiots..

I would guess they think there awesome and trying to be cool about it. Big notieng themselves..

"remember when so and so was in the crash.. Yeah the **** mad got macas before he was arrested.."

There is something about youths that I dont get.. Im the same age and I cant see how they can do that.. Im not perfect by any means. If i do something wrong, I try fix it of suffer the consiquence.. At least feel guilty for it.. Sounds like these dick heads had no remorse.. Hope the goes to jail and meets bubba..

[GS608]

Originally Posted by crazy-au

Thats pathetic.. They caused an accident, killed the man, and couldnt even bloody help. That amazes me to start off with. Then to have maccas dropped off. Fekn idiots..

I would guess they think there awesome and trying to be cool about it. Big notieng themselves..

"remember when so and so was in the crash.. Yeah the **** mad got macas before he was arrested.."

There is something about youths that I dont get.. Im the same age and I cant see how they can do that.. Im not perfect by any means. If i do something wrong, I try fix it of suffer the consiquence.. At least feel guilty for it.. Sounds like these dick heads had no remorse.. Hope the goes to jail and meets bubba..

in every generation theres low lives like these guys, im roughly the same age and most kids think its uncool to show concern for someone else or some crap, they need to wake up to themselves, i hope that when they're put in the same situation that old man was that nobody comes to help them.

[Rob's 76 Effy]

Her's a follow up to this, and they let him out on bail
http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/...oast-news.html

[Daymoe]

And the legal system fails us once again.

[mongoloid]

Originally Posted by Daymoe

And the legal system fails us once again.

Hes only on bail till the hearing, at least wait until he inevitably gets off the charges before casting doubt on the legal system

[Daymoe]

Originally Posted by mongoloid

Hes only on bail till the hearing, at least wait until he inevitably gets off the charges before casting doubt on the legal system

Its already failed me and my family once, that was hard hitting enough.

[vfast]

Unfortunately these kids are products of our society these days. There's no consequence from parents, schools, and now legal system. How can we possible expect anything more if there is no respect for themselves or other people. Together with this and the mindless "music" idols they have to look up to I am genuinely concerned for my two little ones.

But for these kids, as a start, make them all visit the families of this man and deliver the 'knock on the door' (I've been there as the receiptant) news of what has happened instead of police. Make them visit the funeral to see the wider impact of their actions.

As for the driver, perhaps remove his hands to prevent him ever holding a steering wheel again? Too harsh?

[Mr Hardware]

there's no way an 18 year old would be allowed to pilot a WRX anyway with the turbo restrictions on P platers.
And where did he get the car from? I've never driven something as good as a WRX in my life.

[Daymoe]

Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

there's no way an 18 year old would be allowed to pilot a WRX anyway with the turbo restrictions on P platers.
And where did he get the car from? I've never driven something as good as a WRX in my life.

If you know the right people, you can get a good paying job.

[Dave_au]

Another tabloid media beat up, but regardless it loses sight of the bigger issue, a fatal accident by a driver known by police due to previous reckless driving.

[uranium_death]

Ok. Young 'men' with no compassion, or no sense of responsibility.

THe driver should be banned from driving for a bloody long time.
I would also like the book to actually be pulled out, and then use it to belt these young fools over the head. They need some sense smashed into them.

Whether you like to admit it or not, the human race is becoming worse.
Gen Y (of which I am one) and Gen Z are too often self-aboserbed and place too much importance on the individual (often themselves as a solitary being).

Ants might be stupid insects who just follow the back, but at least they work for the greater good.

Also, if the Simpsons has taught me anything, giant space ants will one day conquer Earth. I choose the ants.

[mongoloid]

Originally Posted by Daymoe

Its already failed me and my family once, that was hard hitting enough.

bummer .

[NudgE^SIKBRO]

It makes me wonder... what sort of a world is this becoming

[Allen]

There was a follow up on this today :

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574...0-1248,00.html

Apparently he was already on bail for 19 other charges from the drug court, he was un-licenced and the car was un-registered.

His Lawyer reckons he's not a callous boy...

The world could do without people like this...

[Fev]

forgetting the drivers prior convictions etc..

It sounds all disgusting while being put like that but what do you really think they are going to do - i would have done exactly the same thing, although i would have called an ambulance - did it say if they did that??.. i'm not going to risk someones life, possibly killing or making them a paraplegic by trying to drag them out of a collision unless there was a fire or something like that. the most i would do is direct traffic. other then that they would have been in shock.

Dont think of them as the scum of the earth, sure what they did wasn't exactly tasteful but what else could they have done? and the crash itself is disgraceful but they were probably scared sh**less that their own lives were ruined, especially as they would have been so confused they wouldnt have known what was going on anyway..

atleast this is what I would have thought if i was in their shoes, you see too many medical shows saying do not move a crash victim blah blah blah, could cause permanent spinal injury but then again we'll never know what was going through their own heads at the time.

[vfast]

Originally Posted by Fev

but they were probably scared sh**less that their own lives were ruined, especially as they would have been so confused they wouldnt have known what was going on anyway..

They were "so confused" they could only think to order Maccas ??

I agree the reporting is most likely overstated on face value I think the issue is the lack of consideration for anyone but themselves.

[Fev]

wait, in QLD do you get maccas delivered? or did a friend come by with it?

[NYTEYZ]

I know i'm going to get shot down for what I'm bout to say and in no uncertain terms do i agree with, applaude, or condone what these 'Things' did but from the photo it looks (to me anyway) that the driver of the van entered the roundabout without giving way. Yes if the 18 yr old driver was doing the legal speed limit this fatal could have merely been a broken hip.

Like i said i don't condone what these guys did, not one little bit.

[F6T]

over reporting or not - I couldn't even imagine having an appetite for weeks if I were responsible for something like this. then again, if this guy had any 'care factor' at all, he wouldn't have got behind the wheel of an unregistered car, being unlicensed at the time and taking 4 others with him, in the first place.

[AndrewR_AUII]

Originally Posted by fairlane_ghia

There was a follow up on this today :

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574...0-1248,00.html

Apparently he was already on bail for 19 other charges from the drug court, he was un-licenced and the car was un-registered.

His Lawyer reckons he's not a callous boy...

The world could do without people like this...

Yet, they let 'him' out on bail AGAIN....

[Bud Bud]

Originally Posted by Fev

forgetting the drivers prior convictions etc..

It sounds all disgusting while being put like that but what do you really think they are going to do - i would have done exactly the same thing, although i would have called an ambulance - did it say if they did that??.. i'm not going to risk someones life, possibly killing or making them a paraplegic by trying to drag them out of a collision unless there was a fire or something like that. the most i would do is direct traffic. other then that they would have been in shock.

Dont think of them as the scum of the earth, sure what they did wasn't exactly tasteful but what else could they have done? and the crash itself is disgraceful but they were probably scared sh**less that their own lives were ruined, especially as they would have been so confused they wouldnt have known what was going on anyway..

atleast this is what I would have thought if i was in their shoes, you see too many medical shows saying do not move a crash victim blah blah blah, could cause permanent spinal injury but then again we'll never know what was going through their own heads at the time.

Fev, please don't take this the wrong way, but did you take the time to read the article? The report states that it was the local residence that came to the aid of the victims and comforting the 71 y/o woman who was reported to be wailing in pain. Nobody including the residence tried to remove the victims from the damaged car as the reports suggests that the roof need to be cut off before they could be removed from the wreckage. While I don't know who called the authorities, one resident claimed that the perpetrators did nothing.

It was not the media that claimed that the perpetrators did not show any concern by their actions, but the same residence (names supplied) observing their actions and reporting them to the media once the residence had arrived on the scene. It was the same residence that were reportedly appalled once they saw the Maccas being dropped off by a third party.

Shock my A$$ at least one of the individuals had a working phone and could only think of their stomachs when the rest of ours would have been turning. No bloody wonder there is so much anger in the general responses to this one!

And I do agree with Uranium Death "Whether you like to admit it or not, the human race is becoming worse."

[fiery]

I don't know how many of you have ever had the media 'use' what you have said especially at a crisis scene. Or how many of you have had the media 'report' about yourself for any reason what so ever.

But in my dealings with media, they do embellish a fair bit. They might put some-one's name to saying something but that something may not have been said quite like it was reported.

If this was a 50 year old man with his 48 year old wife, 45 year old brother and 40 year old sister in law in the car, would you all be saying what you are?

I have been in the area of some horrific accidents and whilst it might not be the 'norm' to have food delivered by a third party it might not have been quite as it was reported either.
The teens, being teens, most likely would have been in shock, they may not have realised the gravity of the situation. They may not have had to deal with any sort of accident.
The residents possibly got to the elderly couple first as the teens would have had to pull themselves from the car, and then access the situation.

I know when my son and his gf had an accident, not their fault, they were hit from behind by a speeding 45 year old woman.
The first thing said to them by a so called 'witness' was, 'if you weren't being silly it wouldn't have happened'. This is an absolute crock considering the kids were waiting to turn (Jess's indicator was still on, so no-one could say it wasn't working).
Luckily for them, there was a couple of others that 'actually' saw what happened and spoke up.
And guess what, neither of the two kids went to the woman in the car immediately as there were others that got to her before the kids were out of the car.
Oh and a 'nurse' told the kids to have something that has a bit of sugar to it to help calm. Personally don't know if that would be the right thing or not, but that is what they were told.

Wonder if an adult gave the same advice to these youngsters? Could it have been a parent that brought these kids food?

Unless you were there, you witnessed what happened, you honestly do not know exactly what transpired. Besides, the residents could be the same type of people that carry on about 'hoons' and saw it as a situation to run with.

That might sound harsh, but it is all a possibility. If you want the 'facts' about it all, take the time to go to the court house at the next hearing and see what transpires.

Yes, he obviously has priors but funny how the elderly couple appear to be in the wrong but it is the kids to get crucified because of the 'drivers past' and the fact the silly boy was driving unlicensed and unregistered.

Just my 2 cents.

[MAD]

Originally Posted by AndrewR_AUII

Yet, they let 'him' out on bail AGAIN....

Actually, if you read to the end, his bail was revoked and he is now being held in custody until Dec 10.

One can only hope that karma is real.

[MNM96]

Laminge
This message has been deleted by Laminge. Reason: Must not be lead into debates with dna deficient humans!

I'm with you!

[Sprint347]

Originally Posted by fiery

I don't know how many of you have ever had the media 'use' what you have said especially at a crisis scene. Or how many of you have had the media 'report' about yourself for any reason what so ever.

But in my dealings with media, they do embellish a fair bit. They might put some-one's name to saying something but that something may not have been said quite like it was reported.

If this was a 50 year old man with his 48 year old wife, 45 year old brother and 40 year old sister in law in the car, would you all be saying what you are?

I have been in the area of some horrific accidents and whilst it might not be the 'norm' to have food delivered by a third party it might not have been quite as it was reported either.
The teens, being teens, most likely would have been in shock, they may not have realised the gravity of the situation. They may not have had to deal with any sort of accident.
The residents possibly got to the elderly couple first as the teens would have had to pull themselves from the car, and then access the situation.

I know when my son and his gf had an accident, not their fault, they were hit from behind by a speeding 45 year old woman.
The first thing said to them by a so called 'witness' was, 'if you weren't being silly it wouldn't have happened'. This is an absolute crock considering the kids were waiting to turn (Jess's indicator was still on, so no-one could say it wasn't working).
Luckily for them, there was a couple of others that 'actually' saw what happened and spoke up.
And guess what, neither of the two kids went to the woman in the car immediately as there were others that got to her before the kids were out of the car.
Oh and a 'nurse' told the kids to have something that has a bit of sugar to it to help calm. Personally don't know if that would be the right thing or not, but that is what they were told.

Wonder if an adult gave the same advice to these youngsters? Could it have been a parent that brought these kids food?

Unless you were there, you witnessed what happened, you honestly do not know exactly what transpired. Besides, the residents could be the same type of people that carry on about 'hoons' and saw it as a situation to run with.

That might sound harsh, but it is all a possibility. If you want the 'facts' about it all, take the time to go to the court house at the next hearing and see what transpires.

Yes, he obviously has priors but funny how the elderly couple appear to be in the wrong but it is the kids to get crucified because of the 'drivers past' and the fact the silly boy was driving unlicensed and unregistered.

Just my 2 cents.

Excellent post

[Fev]

in reply to Bud Bud:

of course i read the article, i just viewed it in a difference way. there is so many difference ways to interpret what is said in these articles.
We dont have any way of knowing, say - If how long after the accident the macas was delivered etc etc - hell they could have been on their way to see them with the food or something. i never take news articles at face value and i will always have more questions that need answering. i like to keep an open unbiased mind on things like this because it is so easy to jump to conclusions with the information that is provided and im not going to crucify someone before enough information is found.


The real point of the article should have been 5 guys, unregisted car, uninsured, unlicensed, unable to drive said "highpowered" car with a license at that age anyway and what is being done to help curb this sort of person on the road. Other then the crash anyway which in itself isn't HUGE HEADLINE worthy news(i know it sounds horrible but its true)