V8 Capris no more???

[FOMOCO 1]

Can anyone shed some light on the rumour that V8 Capris will no longer be eligible for engineers from now on?? I heard that you wont be allowed under new laws in NSW.
Does it affect Melbourne owners? Was just about to get stuck into one.

[nugget378]

Been like that in NSW for a while.
And why already engineered capri's/cortina's etc are getting good $$ now..

[FOMOCO 1]

What about Melbourne??

[Rev28K]

Their reasoning?

How do they justify/explain it in this new law – cars built over 30 years ago aren’t eligible for engine swaps or something?

Is this is part of the Vehicle Standards Bulletin 14 National code of practice for light vehicle construction and modification ?

As well as a lot of other clauses there is this for replacement naturally aspirated engines:

Cars under 800 kg are only allowed a capacity (cubic centimeters) of weight (kg) x 3
Cars between 800 kg and 1100 kg are only allowed a capacity (cubic centimeters) of weight (kg) x 4
Cars over 1100 kg are only allowed a capacity (cubic centimeters) of weight (kg) x 5

So a 1000kg car is only allowed 4000cc

If you wanted to put a small Windsor 260 Cid (4260ish cc) the car would have to weigh over 853kg.

I can see you having problems with a 302 or 351 but a tiny engine should be OK.

This is part of the Standards Bulletin released in Feb 2006 or have they revised it again?

[Kryton]

so they havent heard of the Pirhana then?

[[Tonko]]

Time to go the turbo route instead..
What i dont get is, how is it more dangerous to have a V8 corty/capri in 2008 than say, 1999? With the government saying the roads have never been better etc...
If they had it their way, the only mods we could do is headlight protectors on our Prius.

[kyro_02]

if you can sacrifice insurance, and perhaps p plates(if applicable), then who cares about engineers certificate

[Rev28K]

Originally Posted by [Tonko]

Time to go the turbo route instead..

Again from the National Code of practice service bulletin, this time for turbo-supercharged cars

Cars under 800 kg are only allowed a capacity (cubic centimeters) of weight (kg) x 2.5
Cars between 800 kg and 1100 kg are only allowed a capacity (cubic centimeters) of weight (kg) x 2.75
Cars over 1100 kg are only allowed a capacity (cubic centimeters) of weight (kg) x 3

So a turbocharged 1000kg car is only allowed 2750cc

How much does a Capri weight?

[XR Van]

wont this rule then affect windsors into xk-xp's. especially utes. they only weigh 1000kgs dont they?

[xbcoupe302]

my capri v6 weighed 1050kgs with a full tank of fuel

[JamesR]

this is good..

im pretty sure the v8 capri has been done to death anyway, time to get creative.

[MNM96]

The factory built them in Sth Efreca

[brenx]

just shove a turbo 4lt hehehe ;)

[protd]

Originally Posted by JamesR

this is good..

im pretty sure the v8 capri has been done to death anyway, time to get creative.

yea it's awesome :

[MMD]

Originally Posted by brenx

just shove a turbo 4lt hehehe ;)

wont be allowed...... :(
looks like 4.0litre Toyota V8 will be the engine to get for these (and most) cars from now on.

with the weight of the car - is it the Heaviest is came from the factory ?
or car less engine ?

[R0BD0G]

Originally Posted by davway

so they havent heard of the Pirhana then?

Perana :

http://www.capri-perana.co.za/

[Kryton]

Originally Posted by Kermit 73

Perana :

http://www.capri-perana.co.za/

meh, i wrote it with a South African accent

[70caprigt3k]

While i like a good V8 Capri, i would really like to see more tough Essex V6 Capri's around. Triple 40DCNF's and Ric Wood alloy heads.........why did i sell my Capri :

[Nostalgia]

Originally Posted by protd

yea it's awesome :

Agree with you protd.

[capriv8]

I wonder if the new Ford V6 going into the Orion will be a good retrofit for the Capri

[[Tonko]]

Originally Posted by JamesR

this is good..

im pretty sure the v8 capri has been done to death anyway, time to get creative.

Ah ha, Creative you say?
Says he who cannot afford/handle one...

[Interceptor]

Originally Posted by kyro_02

if you can sacrifice insurance, and perhaps p plates(if applicable), then who cares about engineers certificate

considering at least 3 states have impount/confiscation laws for "hooning" and at least one state government is seriously considering crushing confiscated cars, do you seriously want to give the powers that be more incentive, and would YOU risk putting a car you've put significant amounts of time and money into, getting confiscated and crushed?

im sure it wouldnt take much convincing for the vic/nsw/qld state governments to add blatantly illegal modifications to the list of things that get cars impounded

hmm...... havent i had a discussion with you re: legalities before eh kyro?

Originally Posted by 70caprigt3k

While i like a good V8 Capri, i would really like to see more tough Essex V6 Capri's around. Triple 40DCNF's and Ric Wood alloy heads.........why did i sell my Capri :

temporary insanity?

[kyro_02]

[QUOTE=Interceptor]
hmm...... havent i had a discussion with you re: legalities before eh kyro?QUOTE]

yup an atleast i can admit that not one day goes by when i get in a car, i'm doing something I shouldn't have. even now that i am 0 points for 12 months. i shouldn't be driving my mates unroadworthy car, but I do. whoopty do, throw me in jail n throw away the keys lol...

90% of cars on this forum are probably not stock! book em! lol

edit: btw, i didn't condone careless driving in my first post, just having an un engineered car, doesn't make you a hoon? the state governments are stupid, but not that stupid!!

edit: when you were referring you a previous discussion on legalities? I love spools an always will!

[SPK-250]

Originally Posted by kyro_02

if you can sacrifice insurance, and perhaps p plates(if applicable), then who cares about engineers certificate

That whats good about living where i do.

[russellw]

[QUOTE=kyro_02]

Originally Posted by Interceptor

hmm...... havent i had a discussion with you re: legalities before eh kyro?QUOTE]

yup an atleast i can admit that not one day goes by when i get in a car, i'm doing something I shouldn't have. even now that i am 0 points for 12 months. i shouldn't be driving my mates unroadworthy car, but I do. whoopty do, throw me in jail n throw away the keys lol...

90% of cars on this forum are probably not stock! book em! lol

edit: btw, i didn't condone careless driving in my first post, just having an un engineered car, doesn't make you a hoon? the state governments are stupid, but not that stupid!!

edit: when you were referring you a previous discussion on legalities? I love spools an always will!

You are condoning careless driving by the simple act of driving an unroadworthy vehicle and sanctioning those who wish to evade the legislated protection that is in place for the rest of society.

You see, it is people like you, who end up killing someone in a poorly engineered vehicle that lead to further restrictions on those who wish to do it the right way.

Heaven protect us from the lunacy of individuals like yourself - thankfully we have a legal system that will provide you with sufficient time to consider the error of your ways should you end up taking another life by your irresponsibility.

I am going to breach the forum rules I set here in telling you that you you are the worst example of an arrogant fool I have seen on these forums and that is saying something.

Russ

[Capri351]

I can't see why V8 capris should be unable to be done any more considering the V8 was an option in Sth Africa.

XK-XP's should be ok as the V8 is a standard option in US models, shouldn't really require engineers technically as long as the rest of the car is optioned up.

[70caprigt3k]

Originally Posted by Interceptor

temporary insanity?

I think your pretty much spot on with that one

[Interceptor]

Originally Posted by Capri351

I can't see why V8 capris should be unable to be done any more considering the V8 was an option in Sth Africa.

XK-XP's should be ok as the V8 is a standard option in US models, shouldn't really require engineers technically as long as the rest of the car is optioned up.

thing is, the cars were built in Australia to comply with Australian requirements, and just because the same (or *slightly* different) body was released overseas with a V8 in it, doesnt mean that it wouldve still complied with the relevant standards in Australia when it was new

problems arise where there are differences with the bodies, like big block mustangs have a reinforcing plate around the bottom of the shock tower, 6 cyl/V8's dont, and its fair to say there would be differences between overseas and locally sourced bodies, hence the need for engineers certification, brakes, suspension, etc are also vital things that need to be looked at


[QUOTE=russellw]

Originally Posted by kyro_02

You are condoning careless driving by the simple act of driving an unroadworthy vehicle and sanctioning those who wish to evade the legislated protection that is in place for the rest of society.

You see, it is people like you, who end up killing someone in a poorly engineered vehicle that lead to further restrictions on those who wish to do it the right way.

Heaven protect us from the lunacy of individuals like yourself - thankfully we have a legal system that will provide you with sufficient time to consider the error of your ways should you end up taking another life by your irresponsibility.

I am going to breach the forum rules I set here in telling you that you you are the worst example of an arrogant fool I have seen on these forums and that is saying something.

Russ

just as well you said it Russell, the last time i tried explaining the stupidity and consequences of Kyro's attitude, i got banned from a rival forum......

Originally Posted by kyro_02

edit: btw, i didn't condone careless driving in my first post, just having an un engineered car, doesn't make you a hoon?

driving a car that doesnt meet the registration requirements is indeed careless, and quite possibly reckless, if a vehicle doesnt or cannot pass an engineers inspection, there is no way of proving it is safe to be driven on the road, so driving it would indeed be careless

Originally Posted by kyro_02

yup an atleast i can admit that not one day goes by when i get in a car, i'm doing something I shouldn't have. even now that i am 0 points for 12 months. i shouldn't be driving my mates unroadworthy car, but I do. whoopty do, throw me in jail n throw away the keys lol...

it is EXACTLY this kind of attitude that gives younger drivers the bad reputation they all seem to whinge about, and it is the ammunition the government uses to make life harder for all car enthusiasts

Originally Posted by kyro_02

90% of cars on this forum are probably not stock! book em! lol

thats assuming that every modified car on here has illegal modifications, remember, there are millions of ways to modify a car without doing anything illegal

Originally Posted by kyro_02

the state governments are stupid, but not that stupid!!

you're kidding, right?

kyro, i can only hope that you never have to suffer the consequences of someone exhibiting the same level of carelessness as you do