Ford to close FPV?

[Express]

Originally Posted by GT450

but stop the endless whining that you have been shafted.

GT450

Venting is part of the healing process.

A new direction and way of thinking about Ford is on the horizon for many of the members here.

It’s good to hear what they think, whether they be sad, angry, disheartened or even excited about new models that may appear.

One thing though, as members of a Ford Forum they are unlikely to be disinterested or without an opinion.

Let them have a say.



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[Nikked]

Soo...ford get supercharged falcons right through till 2016...

Whats wrong with that?

[GASWAGON]

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Originally Posted by EF_6

I'm assuming this means X amount of FPV employees lose their jobs?

Does anyone know approximately how many jobs might be lost?

apparently there will be no job loss, which is good.
the employes will merge into ford so they say.

Oh o.k well thats good news then......Until Ford close down Broady that is!

[Iggle Piggle]

Have they announced what the high-performance Mustang will deliver, as I reckon a bit would hinge on that?

You'd think they would want to avoid a situation where the outgoing sentimental favourite out-guns the new hero, so can't see them going all out on a last tribute to Falcon. Not unless Mustang will be quicker again.

I'd be surprised if they allowed a supercharged Falcon to be sold alongside Mustang if the Falcon packed a bigger punch.

Totally different in terms of looks and 2-door versus 4-door, but if all you wanted was a fast Ford...they wouldn't want the orphan potentially taking sales/traction from the new platform on its launch.




Or you may get both a crazy Falcon and an insane Stang??

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Express

Venting is part of the healing process.

Some people have been 'healing' for a long time on here.

[Grunter]

Originally Posted by GT450

...so how about enjoying what they did give us and wait and see what's to come instead of this constant denigrating of MY favourite brand of automobile.
GT450

Totally respect your view, however no-one is bagging out the cars as they were/are, or anyone for purchasing/owning one. Fruit aside they are fantastic!

IMO however Ford are taking advantage of loyal supporters, like yourself and me (although they are doing everything to kill my support), by treating us like we are gullible fools. What I'm disappointed in, is that MY favourite brand has, and continues to treat me like I'm an complete idiot. I WANT to buy a GT-P. I've wanted to buy one for a long time, but not at the expense of missing, what has become, in most other cars, the basics. And with the last of the Falcons, I want to get an FH GT, but it must have a least some of the features I want and that it's competitors have. That's looking more and more unlikely now.

I'm a Ford Falcon guy, I've supported the brand and love the cars. They are killing off both, and while I respect that Ford is a business, they are forgetting that through the years we have supported them FINANCIALLY through good and bad. Also when you look at how AFF and it's members (not to mention all the clubs around Australia) have been pretty much ignored for the past 6/7 years, compared to previously FoA being actively involved with AFF (and other clubs) in promoting all things FORD, its a huge slap in the face.

But that's just my view.

[PepeLePew]

Originally Posted by GT450

Better get your duds off then as the FG WILL be the LAST GT.
GT450

I agree, the last Falcon GT. However why would they drop a moniker they use commonly on the new Stang for our market when they can at least try and leverage it?

http://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/trim/gt/

Just on another note I reckon XR8 might do ok with the Miami under it....I don't know about others but I wasn't that determined to go to FPV for my ute, I cross shopped the XR6T but the 8 won the day. I wanted that ENGINE, what body or badge it was wrapped in was of marginal importance

[Grunter]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Some people have been 'healing' for a long time on here.

And some people will continue for some time yet.

PS: there's an ignore button if needed. ;)

[eb2fairmont]

Don't know what the fuss is. You buy a GT, you get all the stripes wings spoilers and a GT badge. For that you get some "exclusivity" to show you spent 70K on a falcon.

Next year you buy an xr8, with updated interior, smaller wings and spoilers and that engine.

Ford won't be able to price it as high as a GT, but if it comes in around GS price currently with the 335 motor, seriously where can you get better bang for your buck than that?

Buy two for one HSV GTS..... absolute bargain.

[Guzz226]

Originally Posted by PepeLePew

I agree, the last Falcon GT. However why would they drop a moniker they use commonly on the new Stang for our market when they can at least try and leverage it?

http://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/trim/gt/

Just on another note I reckon XR8 might do ok with the Miami under it....I don't know about others but I wasn't that determined to go to FPV for my ute, I cross shopped the XR6T but the 8 won the day. I wanted that ENGINE, what body or badge it was wrapped in was of marginal importance

The Boss of Ford has suggested interviews that Ford world wide are standardising on ST as the performance label - not GT as used by Falcon and Mustang.

We wont know for sure that the new Mustang will continue with GT either until more is released about it.

[Grunter]

Originally Posted by eb2fairmont

Don't know what the fuss is.....

Why not release an XT with the V8 and you could buy 4 for 1 HSV GTS..bargain!! ;)

[Whitey-AMG]

I got my letter in the mail yesterday from FORD announcing the good news on the return of the XR8 - but too bad so sad - no more FPV.
Oh well - in a way - I feel privileged. I am in the last generation of AUS Ford buyers to have bought a brand new FORD FALCON GT.

Sure they will be around for a while in the 2nd hand market - private sales and dealers etc. But I'll never forget the day I walked into Bayfords at Coburg and saw a yard sprinkled with brand new brightly coloured FORD FALCON FPV GT's.....what a sight. Choosing my fave colour and being the 1st owner was a dream. Alas - this opportunity is now dwindling and by mid next year may be gone........forever.

Just makes you realise sometimes how emotive these things can get. For me - I will not trade up to XR8 or Mustang. It's always been about FALCON GT - 4 doors , rough around the edges , more power than the chassis can handle and those gawdily decorated body shells with stripes and body kit, and of course - the badge. Yeah Yeah its only a badge - well - I say meh to those who only think its a badge. Meh , Meh , Meh....

Maybe the next generation can find it in their hearts to adopt the Mustang and make it a keeper here in Australia - I hope so.
For me....I'm stockpiling parts for the BF already....

[Rob 351]

^^^ post of the day!

[PepeLePew]

^^^Top post, do well turning passion into words. I walked into a showroom today and got a buzz when i saw a Octane GT sitting there.....these things are far from a use-by date.

[Express]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Some people have been 'healing' for a long time on here.

For some it is a very deep wound.




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[Gadgetman]

Originally Posted by Rodge

^^I can sell you a very good stock MK1 GT-P, full service history, done 20,000 km's PM me if you're seriously interested.

I'm serious about exiting this brand.

Your call of course. Exit the brand if you want. But dude, if you love driving that GT-P of yours, don't worry about what's happening or about to happen and keep enjoying what you have. They are great cars and we as in our generation have had the privilege of driving large rear wheel drive big engine high powered sedans. Just remember that cause the kids of tommorow will be driving stuff that is built with the envoriment in mind and we all know that can't be as fun now don't we?

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Express

For some it is a very deep wound.

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I wasn't really talking about the closure.

[MAD]

Originally Posted by ESP

I got my letter in the mail yesterday from FORD announcing the good news on the return of the XR8 - but too bad so sad - no more FPV.
Oh well - in a way - I feel privileged. I am in the last generation of AUS Ford buyers to have bought a brand new FORD FALCON GT.

Sure they will be around for a while in the 2nd hand market - private sales and dealers etc. But I'll never forget the day I walked into Bayfords at Coburg and saw a yard sprinkled with brand new brightly coloured FORD FALCON FPV GT's.....what a sight. Choosing my fave colour and being the 1st owner was a dream. Alas - this opportunity is now dwindling and by mid next year may be gone........forever.

Just makes you realise sometimes how emotive these things can get. For me - I will not trade up to XR8 or Mustang. It's always been about FALCON GT - 4 doors , rough around the edges , more power than the chassis can handle and those gawdily decorated body shells with stripes and body kit, and of course - the badge. Yeah Yeah its only a badge - well - I say meh to those who only think its a badge. Meh , Meh , Meh....

Maybe the next generation can find it in their hearts to adopt the Mustang and make it a keeper here in Australia - I hope so.
For me....I'm stockpiling parts for the BF already....

Don't mean to nit-pick, but it's an FPV GT not a FORD FALCON GT.

[99AUXR]

Enquired about an MKII today, dealer is pricing up our trade in atm looking to be finished building next year August. He placed an order for one two days ago and was surprised they accepted it meaning they are trying to stop taking orders now.

[au2000]

I might have to make a mod to my gt-e, add those 6 pesky letters on the boot lid that ford hate saying !

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by MAD

Don't mean to nit-pick, but it's an FPV GT not a FORD FALCON GT.

BA/ BF had FORD badges - falcon sedan body with GT Badge = FORD FALCON GT by definition

FG was officially1st FPV GT with deleted ford badging. Even the steering wheel got the FPV badge.

Either way - in my book - they are still FORD FALCON GT's.

[Lukeyson]

Yeah Rod Barrett trying to make it more leet or something. I am with you ESP, Ford Falcon GT. It's what I refer to mine as.

As much as the XR8 won't have the street cred of a GT imo (regardless of features) I am still keen to see what it gets. As I said before, as long as it has FPV-like options (brakes mainly) I will have a look at saying bye bye to the AU

[GTP534]

Originally Posted by ESP

I got my letter in the mail yesterday from FORD announcing the good news on the return of the XR8 - but too bad so sad - no more FPV.
Oh well - in a way - I feel privileged. I am in the last generation of AUS Ford buyers to have bought a brand new FORD FALCON GT.

Sure they will be around for a while in the 2nd hand market - private sales and dealers etc. But I'll never forget the day I walked into Bayfords at Coburg and saw a yard sprinkled with brand new brightly coloured FORD FALCON FPV GT's.....what a sight. Choosing my fave colour and being the 1st owner was a dream. Alas - this opportunity is now dwindling and by mid next year may be gone........forever.

Just makes you realise sometimes how emotive these things can get. For me - I will not trade up to XR8 or Mustang. It's always been about FALCON GT - 4 doors , rough around the edges , more power than the chassis can handle and those gawdily decorated body shells with stripes and body kit, and of course - the badge. Yeah Yeah its only a badge - well - I say meh to those who only think its a badge. Meh , Meh , Meh....

Maybe the next generation can find it in their hearts to adopt the Mustang and make it a keeper here in Australia - I hope so.
For me....I'm stockpiling parts for the BF already....

Top post! I agree and empathise with most of what you posted, especially the part about how these cars tug at your heartstrings. We all have different reasons for the emotions we feel.

For me I'm seriously going to consider Mustang because when growing up the Mustang was first Ford I identified with and to own one would be like a dream come true; just like it was when I purchased my first FPV.

One down; one to go!

[GTPete]

Originally Posted by ESP

BA/ BF had FORD badges - falcon sedan body with GT Badge = FORD FALCON GT by definition

FG was officially1st FPV GT with deleted ford badging. Even the steering wheel got the FPV badge.

Either way - in my book - they are still FORD FALCON GT's.

Correct, BF GT and GTP are Falcon GT's as per noted on the build documents, this is an undisputable fact.

[HO 3]

Originally Posted by rancidpunx

I think thats the worse thing they could do. To me anyway. What was the point of doing the RSpec in the first place. It ruins the RSpecs credentials and comes across half arsed. They need to do something properly special or do nothing at all. Even then though they are likely to want to much money for it.

Call it ''H'' Spec instead and keep em guessing

Cheers Mick

[GS608]

Originally Posted by MAD

Don't mean to nit-pick, but it's an FPV GT not a FORD FALCON GT.

Maybe so but the govt doesn't see it that way...mine is registered as a FORD FALCON UTE

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by Gadgetman

Your call of course. Exit the brand if you want. But dude, if you love driving that GT-P of yours, don't worry about what's happening or about to happen and keep enjoying what you have.

This.

If you love driving your car, why sell it and worry about what to buy next? Just keep it for as long as you're enjoying it. I see no point in selling your FG GT-P then complain that an FH GT is not available. Keep the FG. If no manufacturer offers you something you want more than your current car, keep your current car.

[FPV8U]

FPV/Ford are damned either way, give people a 12 month window to buy a fabled last GT falcon and they are doing the wrong thing, right now you can order a future classic in any combination you want and all we have is pages of bickering over what they will and won't be.

If you aren't going to upgrade well Ford hasn't really done anything wrong to you and if you are planning on it you have been given plenty of notice to get your cards in order, had they done a FH with no upgrades the whinging would have been endless.

I understand, respect and love the passion the GT badge brings, but they are retiring the name with the best version ever made (Nostalgia aside) and even more potential upgrades in the works for the Final limited addition, might be a sticker pack, might be something left from the Prodrive Skunk works, nobody really knows.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by vztrt

There's not that many putting the special bits on an FPV anyway. Not sure about engine plant though.

V8 production continues for XR8 so no changes. Broady only has a couple of people for specific FPV parts fitment and they will be re-deployed elsewhere within the plant.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Rodge

Any idea yet if people will be able to option in GT-P seats or Brembo brakes to the XR8 ?

I'm starting to wonder if the last FPV's will be nothing more than a cheap sticker excercise.

I'd say the seats would be a no, Brembos slight chance?