Confusion over VF SS 0-100 times

[Professor Farnsworth]

Technically it was an AU colour ;)

[muso]

Yes I can remember a few later model AU's having it especially utes.

[1TUFFUTE]

Would you prefer what commadore has for good hero colours over the years.......a highly abused lime green......or red black blue or white.
The colours change so the cars age better. Just another small thing ford has got SPOT on over the years with its hero colours and it's XR colours for eg.

[Dave R]

Holden needs to sack whoever is having the final say on their colours. VF's colour palette is pretty shocking, VE's wasn't any better.

[XtRmn8]

Seeing there are a few VF owners replying in this thread, I hope they can answer some questions for me.

Do the VF door trims squeak, rattle and creek every time you touch them with your elbow or rest your arm on them?
Does the VF center console squeak and creek every time you put your elbow on it, go over a speed bump or go around a corner?
Does the VF emit strange dash rattle noises when going over course road or bumps?
Does the VF drivers seat creak and squeak every time you take a corner or go over a speed bump?

Also how do you go to sleep at night knowing that your VF SS is 0.5 seconds slower to 100km/h compared to an FG XR6T? I do not know I could could live with such a statistic considering my 40km commute to work is 70% bumper to bumper peak hour traffic.

Cheers

[40RDT]

Originally Posted by XtRmn8

Seeing there are a few VF owners replying in this thread, I hope they can answer some questions for me.

Do the VF door trims squeak, rattle and creek every time you touch them with your elbow or rest your arm on them?
Does the VF center console squeak and creek every time you put your elbow on it, go over a speed bump or go around a corner?
Does the VF emit strange dash rattle noises when going over course road or bumps?
Does the VF drivers seat creak and squeak every time you take a corner or go over a speed bump?

Also how do you go to sleep at night knowing that your VF SS is 0.5 seconds slower to 100km/h compared to an FG XR6T? I do not know I could could live with such a statistic considering my 40km commute to work is 70% bumper to bumper peak hour traffic.

Cheers

Geez what's with the comment "how do you go to sleep at night" like someone should feel bad about owning a VF SS? Im sure you sleep fine knowing there are plenty of cars faster at 0-100 than yours yeah? Maybe you're just trolling...

Going by the vids in this thread they are pretty close in acceleration, unless you go with an auto VF SS they seem to be slower than the manuals.

[Professor Farnsworth]

mate it was pretty obvious he was being sarcastic lol

[duaned]

Originally Posted by XtRmn8

Seeing there are a few VF owners replying in this thread, I hope they can answer some questions for me.

Do the VF door trims squeak, rattle and creek every time you touch them with your elbow or rest your arm on them?
Does the VF center console squeak and creek every time you put your elbow on it, go over a speed bump or go around a corner?
Does the VF emit strange dash rattle noises when going over course road or bumps?
Does the VF drivers seat creak and squeak every time you take a corner or go over a speed bump?

Cheers

Sounds like you are describing a FG! But if I answer all of your requests will you go out and buy a VF?

[johnydep]

Originally Posted by duaned

Sounds like you are describing a FG! But if I answer all of your requests will you go out and buy a VF?

Funny you mention that. My Territory had to go back several times because of a squeak when I lent on the RHF trim, my 7 year old (at the time) would create a clicking noise as he leaned on the trim. I blame the dealer for convincing me to get window tint, never again. They eventually fixed it by replacing the trim clips.

Another rattle, which annoyed the **** out of me, came from the left rear. Took a while to find - felt strip on trim to stop seat belt lock from rattling was missing. So much for pre-delivery checks.

So far no rattles.

[40RDT]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

mate it was pretty obvious he was being sarcastic lol

Oops my bad maybe I really should have read that properly before posting lol

[strik9]

Originally Posted by XtRmn8

Seeing there are a few VF owners replying in this thread, I hope they can answer some questions for me.

Do the VF door trims squeak, rattle and creek every time you touch them with your elbow or rest your arm on them?
Does the VF center console squeak and creek every time you put your elbow on it, go over a speed bump or go around a corner?
Does the VF emit strange dash rattle noises when going over course road or bumps?
Does the VF drivers seat creak and squeak every time you take a corner or go over a speed bump?

Also how do you go to sleep at night knowing that your VF SS is 0.5 seconds slower to 100km/h compared to an FG XR6T? I do not know I could could live with such a statistic considering my 40km commute to work is 70% bumper to bumper peak hour traffic.

Cheers

this is so funny,
i was just thinking the other day how my vf has none of this. but my f6 has all but the dash rattle. but what i will say is i,ve had many f6,s before this one and they were all fine. but the bloody one i have now drives me nuts. the one where i put my elbow in particular .

[Professor Farnsworth]

Since announcing the discontinuation of the Falcon I believe Smith's Potato Chips are being used in place of screws and scrivets.

[PepeLePew]

Just marking Farnsy's 13000th birthday. May you not reach that many rattles!

[Professor Farnsworth]

Haha. No guarantee about that one.

[muso]

I'd like to see a roll on comparison between the VF SS and FG Turbo...it would be interesting.

[burnz]

so the question over VESS time's as per thread.

could it be that some times taken, ULP91 versus E85?
would that fill the discrepancy "doubts" ??

[Professor Farnsworth]

might do - it's hard to tell what reviewers actually do before testing and why they'd want a bias in the first place

[XtRmn8]

I don't understand why people are confused about VF SS 0-100 times? They are all done under different conditions and probably measured using different equipment.

As mentioned above the fuel used could also impact power output and hence affect recorded times etc.

Look at FG XR6T reviews and you will see the same variance in times. I have seen times from 5.1 to 5.7 seconds, but at the end of the day does it really matter that much? I drive one and I know its fast so am not bothered by reviews. I would expect that owners of the new SS would be in the same boat.

I think this thread is more about people not wanting to believe that the VF SS could do 0-100km/h in 5 point something seconds.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

Since announcing the discontinuation of the Falcon I believe Smith's Potato Chips are being used in place of screws and scrivets.

You really should do more research before posting, it's Wrigley's spearmint!
(holds bits together combined with a car freshener)

[muso]

Originally Posted by XtRmn8

I think this thread is more about people not wanting to believe that the VF SS could do 0-100km/h in 5 point something seconds.

It's more about the auto VF suddenly being as quick as an FG turbo with no power increase, when the VE SS auto was noticeably slower than an equivalent FG Turbo as well as the VF SS being as quick as atmo HSV's.

[duaned]

It's just a win for us VF SS Owners!

[XtRmn8]

Originally Posted by duaned

It's just a win for us VF SS Owners!

I would be happy too with no squeaks and rattles

The fact that the VF is now 0.5 seconds quicker to 100 over a VE and possibly on par with an FG XR6T is a bonus.

I personally think the new SS is a good bit of kit.

[duaned]

Originally Posted by XtRmn8

I would be happy too with no squeaks and rattles

They are good, but not that good!

[johnydep]

Originally Posted by muso

It's more about the auto VF suddenly being as quick as an FG turbo with no power increase, when the VE SS auto was noticeably slower than an equivalent FG Turbo as well as the VF SS being as quick as atmo HSV's.

I'm sure that this has been covered, but....

VE - manual: 270kW @ 5,700rpm and 530Nm @ 4,400rpm. Automatic: 260kW @ 5,700rpm and 517Nm @ 4,400rpm

VF - manual: 270kW @ 5,600rpm and 530Nm @ 4,400rpm. Automatic: 260kW @ 5,600rpm and 517Nm @ 4,400rpm

The above would lead to the assumption that the torque/power curve is different between the two vehicles. Early on Holden did mention that the engine and transmission software has been re-calibrated.

Plus there has been other changes, such as; weight, EPS, revised front and rear suspension. I've been told that the intake system has had some changes, not sure what. But the VF does seem to rev quicker than the VE.

Combine all these small changes and the VF becomes slightly quicker than the VE.

[PepeLePew]

Interesting point on E85......certainly may be another point of variation. But this just feels like the mulberry bush and a great point above. As a owner if you're under 6 seconds to 100 you're driving a bloody quick car and unlikely to care about the .x part You know it's good to see quite a number of those who've bought the dark side product still around here and REASONABLY discussing these things and sharing their experiences.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

Holden needs to sack whoever is having the final say on their colours. VF's colour palette is pretty shocking, VE's wasn't any better.

IIRC, would you believe they pinched the lady (sorry forgot her name) from Ford Aust. as VE was being developed. IMHO I felt this was reflected in the lack of daring of Ford colours after she left or was that Geoff Polites involvement, lol?

[muso]

Originally Posted by duaned

It's just a win for us VF SS Owners!

Very True I agree if I was buying a newer car for 35-40K I'd get the VF SS in a heart beat. But if I was buying a used car under 30K I think the G6ET is the best bang for your buck and the most potential for performance mods

[Rob 351]

Not me, I'd go for the XR6t every day of the week in that price bracket. Bang for your buck you can't beat it & definately no mystery with performance with the Ford. You know what your getting & that is blistering performance.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by muso

Very True I agree if I was buying a newer car for 35-40K I'd get the VF SS in a heart beat.

just out of interest, why?

[muso]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

just out of interest, why?

Because it's all new.....the FG shape/interior has been around a long time, VE even longer....but when the 2014 falcon comes out I may prefer that over the VF.