Why do people buy Holdens? - Page 4

xxxc · 04-12-2005, 07:23 PM

holdens have better motors i reckon as far as the 5Ls go ,v8s in general,id have a holden 5.0L over a ford 5.0L anyday .

fords are slow lol

**Falcon Coupe** · 04-12-2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VY18s

Yes you can with a N/A RB30

lol sorry just needed to say something smart.

Yeah you're probably right I love the sound of 351s especially in XYs they sound incredible.

Saying a fart sounds better than a Cleveland ain't smart

Ghiadude · 04-12-2005, 08:38 PM

People are influenced first at school the way i was. If you were a holden fan (VNSSGRPA ERA) you were the norm . i was one af very few that supported ford and was an outcast because of it.

My dad had an XE fairmont and it made a Vk in my opinion look absolutely stoneage in comparison interior wise but alas the was v8 in the VK and thats what made the school yard a harsh place to be. Flash forward to now and all the guys i went to school with all still drive holdens and i still drive fords. In order for them to change to ford, youd have to expect me to be willing to do the same and switch to holden...NO WAY!

so in effect its just plain old brand loyalty and ford are starting to get it right because they are building emotion into there cars the way holdens have been for nearly two decades... look at the monaro... seriously its a two door VT... look at the way people perceive that two door como and youll see what i mean... its a monaro not a two door commo.

BF is BY FAR the best engineered car to come out of australia BAR NONE this will gradually turn the tide in fords favour.. lets just hope VE isnt what its cracked up to be and orion kicks *** and the schoolyard will be a better place and well see the benefits in years to come.

PS one last thing id like to add
although holden sells more cars they make less per car than ford.i know what id rather be selling.

pps fords small car sales suck *** and need to improve before well even be close to holden let alone toyota... having said that im looking for a new corolla..FOCUS is too pricey even though its a better engineered car.

rust · 04-12-2005, 08:47 PM

Looks like the ONEEYED brigade hasn't heard of the 300C.All frauds and holdons look the same just different badge.Dare to be different GIRLS AND BOYS.

helltd · 04-12-2005, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OzJavelin

Maybe instead of this continual abuse between Ford and Holden we should be focusing on ricers ..... I don't hate any Holden or Ford, but my "list" includes Toyota, Mitsu, Honda, Suzuki, Kia, Daewoo, etc, etc ,etc .....

I definately agree with this. I don't mind fords or holdens but I will NEVER by a ricer. Oh, hang on.
Are aussie mitsi magnas classed as ricers?

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**Falcon Coupe** · 04-12-2005, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rust

Looks like the ONEEYED brigade hasn't heard of the 300C.All frauds and holdons look the same just different badge.Dare to be different GIRLS AND BOYS.

Maybe start a thread on why people buy Chrysler's before accussing us of being one eyed, the thread title is : Why do people buy Holdens?

helltd · 04-12-2005, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Saying a fart sounds better than a Cleveland ain't smart

Amen to that!

rust · 04-12-2005, 08:58 PM

Start One Up, It Will Just End In A Arguement Anyway Which I Am Not Interested In.all I Came To This Site For Was Some Info On Gearboxs And All I Got Was No Reply.the Holden And Chrysler Sites Were Most Helpful But All I Got Was The Cold Shoulder From People Here.

Sourbastard · 04-12-2005, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rust

Looks like the ONEEYED brigade hasn't heard of the 300C.All frauds and holdons look the same just different badge.Dare to be different GIRLS AND BOYS.

Of course we have heard of it, and im sure it will be the terror of every camry driver, but its a soft luxo barge. When chrysler get the guts to bring out the charger here in Australia, someone will take notice.

And saying Ford and Holdens look alike shows the length of your experience with cars. About the last half an hour.

Try mistaking an AC Cobra for a Kingswood.

Sourbastard · 04-12-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rust

Start One Up, It Will Just End In A Arguement Anyway Which I Am Not Interested In.all I Came To This Site For Was Some Info On Gearboxs And All I Got Was No Reply.the Holden And Chrysler Sites Were Most Helpful But All I Got Was The Cold Shoulder From People Here.

Make up your mind what your post is going to say. So noone replied to your question, that must be on purpose cause they hate you??? Please, some threads dont get answered cause the right people with the right answers didnt see it. If you think its on purpose, get a grip.....

.... need a hug?

AU-MUSTD · 04-12-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodp

Love the XD. I had a green one!

I felt and still feel the same way. My dealer servicing history with Holden has all been A+. They were identifying and fixing faults at scheduled services that I wasn't even aware of. Parramatta and Lansvale if anyone is interested.

Currently I've got a front suspension rattle in my BA that sounds like something is going to fall off the front end. I've been to two scheduled services with two dealerships that advised they tightened and lubed the front suspension. Net result, no change in the hideous rattle. Stereo turned up a few notches to compensate.

I've also got a pretty significant paint defect on the front drivers side quarter panel that I've pointed out to the same dealerships. They looked at me like I was a madman. It's as if someone had a sheet of A4 paper covering a section when they were applying the clear coat so that I've got a rough and discoloured section of paint. No real big deal but it is dissapointing.

Same reason my wife got a new subaru and why l traded my ba down to an au. Fords after sales service is third rate and thus people will buy holdens and other makes instead.

rust · 04-12-2005, 09:07 PM

Sorry They Don't Look Exactly Alike,the Headlights Are Different On The New Ones.that Still Doesn't Answer My First Question About Gear Box Identification.17 Minutes Response From Holden Forum,31 Minutes Response From Chrysler Forum.8640 Minutes No Response From Ford Forum.

Sourbastard · 04-12-2005, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rust

Sorry They Don't Look Exactly Alike,the Headlights Are Different On The New Ones.that Still Doesnt Answer My First Question About Gear Box Identification.17 Minutes Responce From Holden Forum,31 Minutes Responce From Chrysler Forum.8640 Minutes No Responce From Ford Forum.

Well if we offend you so, you better leave.

Ghiadude · 04-12-2005, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rust

Sorry They Don't Look Exactly Alike,the Headlights Are Different On The New Ones.that Still Doesn't Answer My First Question About Gear Box Identification.17 Minutes Response From Holden Forum,31 Minutes Response From Chrysler Forum.8640 Minutes No Response From Ford Forum.

WHAT A NUTTER!

Blue Oval Mopar Man · 05-12-2005, 01:29 AM

spewing he was banned ! I want to tell him the 300c looks like puss with too much chrome !i would almost say its as ugly as the AU (no offence AU owners , just my opinion) but the AU still looks better than the 300C I think !

gmhdriver · 05-12-2005, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rust

Sorry They Don't Look Exactly Alike,the Headlights Are Different On The New Ones.that Still Doesn't Answer My First Question About Gear Box Identification.17 Minutes Response From Holden Forum,31 Minutes Response From Chrysler Forum.8640 Minutes No Response From Ford Forum.

LOL @ every word starting with a capital letter

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Doogstar · 06-12-2005, 12:19 AM

Q: Why do young kids buy Holdens?
A: Because they match their Holden baseball caps and jackets of course.

Holden's clothing marketing is much better than Ford's.

boss-290 · 06-12-2005, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dabbler

Q: Why do young kids buy Holdens?
A: Because they match their Holden baseball caps and jackets of course.

Holden's clothing marketing is much better than Ford's.

Exactly,

And they don't know the pleasure of driving a Ford!

Ryan · 06-12-2005, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by boss-290

Exactly,

And they don't know the pleasure of driving a Ford!

BS

I drive a Ford Laser almost everyday so I know what its like.

Still prefer my VL though.

boss-290 · 06-12-2005, 11:51 AM

I wouldn't class a Laser as a Ford...

My sister used to own one and it was a peice of junk.

Uh, oh! Shouldn't of said that! :togo:

Ryan · 06-12-2005, 12:29 PM

Then what do you class them as then? a bloody Nissan?

Nothing wrong with them, the one I drive is my mum's its a 5 Speed and its a great little car although it lacks quite a bit of power compared to my VL but its still a nice car to drive.

aualright · 06-12-2005, 01:40 PM

Fact is that the first Falcon to hit Australia was a piece of crap that virtually fell apart on our primitive roads as it was built for US freeways. That would've been enough to turn a whole generation off Ford which has filtered through to today.

No doubt the BF with a 6 speed is superior to Commodore as is evidenced by a comparison of large cars in the weekend paper that had the Sonata, 380 and BF - but no Commodore because it is now so behind in terms of technology and refinement.

Even the Viva is selling in great numbers for christ sake, just like the Commodore. HAS TO BE A CULTURE THING, DOESN'T IT?

xe351 · 06-12-2005, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by VY18s

Then what do you class them as then? a bloody Nissan?

Nothing wrong with them, the one I drive is my mum's its a 5 Speed and its a great little car although it lacks quite a bit of power compared to my VL but its still a nice car to drive.

An extra 2 cylinders will do that (assuming its a 6 and not an 8)..... what did you expect???

just wondering if your VL brakes work good? some friends have one and the brakes are shyte, they were wondering if this is normal?

xe351 · 06-12-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by aualright

Even the Viva is selling in great numbers for christ sake, just like the Commodore. HAS TO BE A CULTURE THING, DOESN'T IT?

WTF, vivas are selling??? it must be a culture thing, sounds like a new camira to me

gmhdriver · 06-12-2005, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xe351

WTF, vivas are selling??? it must be a culture thing, sounds like a new camira to me

Only because you are judging them narrow mindedly on the basis of the connection that they have to Daewoo. I haven't seen any evidence at all to suggest that they are an unreliable car. Daewoos may have been crap but it doesn't mean that they aren't able to improve, especially with substantial GM input.

Ryan · 06-12-2005, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by xe351

An extra 2 cylinders will do that (assuming its a 6 and not an 8)..... what did you expect???

just wondering if your VL brakes work good? some friends have one and the brakes are shyte, they were wondering if this is normal?

Yeah its only a 6.

Also my brakes are fine but VLs never really had good brakes anyway.

Roamin · 07-12-2005, 12:03 AM

When I ordered my packaged lease car some years ago I could'nt be guaranteed a BA over the (then) current AU - I just couldn't take the risk. Other aussies appeared to agree, I reckon the impact of the AU on sales is still present today!

Anyway ordered the VY S and had 3 reliable, happy years (lucky we didn't need the local dealer too often - hopeless!). Never thought I would have an OHV 6 in this millenium - but did the job and I enjoyed the experience.

So then we had the need for a Station Wagon, something that looked alright, went OK, safe for the kids, with just that bit more clearance. Changed camps and went for the Territory RWD - I buy what suits my needs/tastes at the time. Having said that I can't see a KiaWoo Excelathingy in the garage in the near future ...

So I've gone for Territory, the BA work car has gone well without reliability problems, fingers crossed, this one will too. Great car, the Terri, quiet and capable with lots of room.

Quality - hmmmm - are Falcon and Territory both made at the same plant? Surely not the interior, must be from somewhere else, as the interior fit of the plastics is worse than the neighbours KiaWoo Excelathingy!

MITCHAY · 07-12-2005, 12:14 AM

My mum bought a 2000 VT Series II Olympic Edition and got an SS bodykit on it aswell. So far has been very reliable. Low Ks and still has the new car smell. You look after something then usually it stays in a good condition.

Before that we had a Holden Apollo and that was also a reliable car.

XplosiveR6 · 07-12-2005, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

My mum bought a 2000 VT Series II Olympic Edition and got an SS bodykit on it aswell. So far has been very reliable. Low Ks and still has the new car smell. You look after something then usually it stays in a good condition.

Before that we had a Holden Apollo and that was also a reliable car.

5-6 years old and still has the new car smell? thats the funnyest thing i have heard in a while, maby they put air refresheners in the car, just maby.

vztrt · 07-12-2005, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Before that we had a Holden Apollo and that was also a reliable car.

Reliable except for the cage bearing design fault the car had.