K&N air filters, whats your opinion? - Page 4

sprintman1 · 29-09-2015, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GT450

Finally an answer for a filter you have used not just read about. As for Bob Is The Oil Guy , you worship whoever you like but do us the courtesy of being able to do like wise without the constant sniping. The forum is for sharing and helping not running oters down because their opinion differs to you. Don't BMWs have a forum for you to visit?
GT450

I do as I provide lubrication/service advice to people worldwide but I no longer own one. And BITOG is a forum for anything automotive and the largest of it's kind. Speaks volumes that most here aren't members.......

Express · 29-09-2015, 01:14 PM

Thanks Sprintman1.

I may as well post up a link to make it easy for everyone to check their products.

http://www.amsoil.com/indexa.aspx

And I guess an important question is, where do you purchase their products?

Harrison · 29-09-2015, 03:20 PM

Timely thread.

I've got a 6000+ km trip coming up shortly, with some dirt road travel involved, and decided to replace the K&N the previous owner fitted with a standard paper filter.

The guy at Repco who also sells K&N products agreed with me when I told him why I was changing it.

He could have attempted to talk me into taking the $40 K&N servicing kit instead but didn't bother trying.

SensationFG8 · 29-09-2015, 03:52 PM

Does your brand make a filter suitable for the Miami? I'd be interested in reading more, sadly a quick google has come up with nothing.

I think clearly sprintman you missed the part about conducting yourself in a mature way and respecting other opinions even if they aren't the same as your own.

You might wanna take a read of these, to help I've extracted some parts...

http://fordforums.com.au/announcement.php?f=2&a=2

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3. Posts that are disrespectful or insulting to another forum member. Remember that everyone is entitled to their opinion as long as it is expressed in a reasoned manner.

6. Posts that are deliberately argumentative or which fail to respect the opinion of another member.

7. SMS style posts - the odd generally accepted abbreviation is fine but posts full of SMS messaging text will be deleted.

sprintman1 · 29-09-2015, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SensationFG8

Does your brand make a filter suitable for the Miami? I'd be interested in reading more, sadly a quick google has come up with nothing.

I think clearly sprintman you missed the part about conducting yourself in a mature way and respecting other opinions even if they aren't the same as your own.

You might wanna take a read of these, to help I've extracted some parts...

http://fordforums.com.au/announcement.php?f=2&a=2

I respect those who understand empirical data and then make a decision. Very few here would understand that let alone follow it.

shazaam · 29-09-2015, 07:07 PM

So what's the part number for falcon i6 with standard air box?

sprintman1 · 29-09-2015, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shazaam

So what's the part number for falcon i6 with standard air box?

No idea, been a few years since I ordered my CAI filter, and they probably don't have one for a Falcon.

STINKY NINJA · 29-09-2015, 07:20 PM

Amsoil do not make air filters for Australian cars...
Lets all buy this unicorn filter that doesn't exist for any australian made car,unless you want an uniwersal pod(that's what they are called) you wont ever find one to suit an aussie made car!
What now genius?

PHANTMXR6 · 29-09-2015, 07:22 PM

I find it very odd that you argue so hard for something that's not even available....

Ippy289XP · 29-09-2015, 07:30 PM

They don't even make their filters

STINKY NINJA · 29-09-2015, 07:32 PM

He knew that the whole time,hes only here to stir up ****,cough hulk...

99AUXR · 29-09-2015, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by STINKY NINJA

He knew that the whole time,hes only here to stir up ****,cough hulk...

Why I stopped commenting until now, Im uninformed and use a K&N. Last time I checked this thread was titled opinion.

I do my own oil sampling for my own engine since its rebuild as PHANTM above and there are no concerning signs in Si of any. Oil is dropped every 5000km religiously so I see no reason to not use the K&N.

99AUXR · 29-09-2015, 07:39 PM

Duplicate: Please Delete.

STINKY NINJA · 29-09-2015, 07:43 PM

I got sucked into this,should have stayed away,run...... run away fast!

bazza91 · 29-09-2015, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 99AUXR

Why I stopped commenting until now, Im uninformed and use a K&N. Last time I checked this thread was titled opinion.

Yes this is a thread for peoples opinion/experience/facts about k&n air filters.

Its good hearing somebody who does UOA and uses a k&n filter.
Given that you arent alarmed by any of your UOA's, if you could explain the sort of driving that you do, im sure that you can prove as to whether or not sprintman is being a troll or not.

Im now thinking i may give the k&n a go and see if it makes any difference on my ute, and whether or not it makes my oil dirtier, like i said i do alot of dirt road driving.

sprintman1 · 29-09-2015, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PHANTMXR6

I find it very odd that you argue so hard for something that's not even available....

I'm not arguing hard for anything and I was talking about CAI filters. You obviously missed the point that it was about poor performance of Krap & Nasty filters and that was an upgrade I found at the time. there are sure to be many other brand options now

99AUXR · 29-09-2015, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bazza91

Yes this is a thread for peoples opinion/experience/facts about k&n air filters.

Its good hearing somebody who does UOA and uses a k&n filter.
Given that you arent alarmed by any of your UOA's, if you could explain the sort of driving that you do, im sure that you can prove as to whether or not sprintman is being a troll or not.

Im now thinking i may give the k&n a go and see if it makes any difference on my ute, and whether or not it makes my oil dirtier, like i said i do alot of dirt road driving.

As for driving up until today my F6 was used as my daily always take it on a decent drive afterwork so Im never cold running it as I dont live very far from the workshop. Certainly dont drive down dusty roads etc.

I also just had a look at PHANTM tests which are pretty much inline with mine and if Im looking at them at correct Km, his Si was only high for a bit after the motor was rebuilt.

I dont disagree that its entirely possible that K&N passes more dust however my intake pipe is never dirty (removed every service to clean any engine oil from front of turbo).

The standard airbox let alone the under battery intake gets restrictive circa 350rwkw this is when I will have to go to battery relocation with a 4'' turbo side intake and guess what filter is supplied to work with this setup ;)

sprintman1 · 29-09-2015, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 99AUXR

As for driving up until today my F6 was used as my daily always take it on a decent drive afterwork so Im never cold running it as I dont live very far from work. Certainly dont drive down dusty roads etc.

I also just had a look at PHANTM tests which are pretty much inline with mine and if Im looking at them at correct Km, his Si was only high for a bit after the motor was rebuilt.

Maybe we should have a UOA thread and show all the other stuff they can tell you about engine health?

Express · 29-09-2015, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bazza91

Yes this is a thread for peoples opinion/experience/facts about k&n air filters.

Its good hearing somebody who does UOA and uses a k&n filter.
Given that you arent alarmed by any of your UOA's, if you could explain the sort of driving that you do, im sure that you can prove as to whether or not sprintman is being a troll or not.

Im now thinking i may give the k&n a go and see if it makes any difference on my ute, and whether or not it makes my oil dirtier, like i said i do alot of dirt road driving.

This is how he drives, like his 85 year old granny on the way to the library.

https://youtu.be/ru8xHL9Atok

FPV+fteT3 · 29-09-2015, 08:17 PM

I have used a K&N on the FPV since 15000km it now has 190000 on it no problems. The thing about the K&N is when you oil it do it sparingly you don't have to go all exxon valdez on it the oil will soak all through the cotton without drowning it.

No I don't do filter analysis on my oil, always use castrol 0w-40 car uses no oil blows no smoke and at the last tune was nocking out 283RWKW so I can not see any problem with the filtration properties of K&N, my lubricants or my tuner/workshop perhaps we could just use old pantyhose soaked in oil stretched over the CAI and held with duct tape… I think the problem with posts in this thread is school holidays because reasonable adults can have a sensible debate and accept other people have a different POV and as far as I am concerned K&N make a good product and yes its cost effective given the km I do in my car but for a change up I recommend old nickers and gaf tape.

99AUXR · 29-09-2015, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Maybe we should have a UOA thread and show all the other stuff they can tell you about engine health?

Im unsure in what your implying we are talking about K&N and their filtration hence my comments regarding Si. Not any other engine scenarios with opinions, make up your ******* mind man, stay on topic and prove your point.

Express · 29-09-2015, 08:22 PM

I have a blue Finer Filter on a Torana, it’s been on it for about 20 years.

It’s never been oiled.

Does anyone know what are they like?

99AUXR · 29-09-2015, 08:23 PM

May as well open your filler cap and tip in 500grams of top soil. Its not oiled so you do not have to worry about oil on the MAF. . . . Wait ;)

sprintman1 · 29-09-2015, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 99AUXR

Im unsure in what your implying we are talking about K&N and their filtration hence my comments regarding Si. Not any other engine scenarios with opinions, make up your ******* mind man, stay on topic and prove you point.

Go and read some UOA's and stop wasting your time here. If you need help PM me.

99AUXR · 29-09-2015, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Go and read some UOA's and stop wasting your time here. If you need help PM me.

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Marketing over performance. Standing joke on any lube forum eg BITOG.

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Ever read a UOA from an engine using a Krap & Nasty?

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Your not getting this are you? It isn't 'my viewpoint' it's anybody who has realised from UOA how poor the aforesaid is at its primary task.

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Replaced the Krap & Nasty CAI pod filter on a BMW I owned with an Amsoil EaA CAI filter. Actually filtered, better air flow, looked better, no filter oil etc. Harder to come by though

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Air flow yes, cleaning no.

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They don't do a good job of filtration anywhere!

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Unlike you I read around 5 UOA's a day and have done for over 15 years so I have a pretty fair idea of what works and what doesn't. And yes there was one on the BMW when purchased but it was quickly consigned to the bin where it belonged.

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Better reusable filters are available that don't require oil. Better filtering/airflow, look way better (CAI style) and cheaper, a win in every dept.

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I'll PM for obvious reasons.

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Yes but most here follow marketing guff not tech data. It's why people like
Snap-on fan boyz pay silly prices for their product to give just one example.

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If you read from post #1 you'd get it. Again there are thousands of UOA's available that show KN pretty much useless. Now either you don't know what a UOA is or you can't understand them?

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I ditched the one fitted to BMW purchased as having read more UOA's than I've had hot dinners I knew, as did everybody else, that they are a joke. It was replaced with a far superior reusable product. Is there some part of that you don't understand?

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In your case it would be beyond you.

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Thousands at BITOG. But will you know how to read one?

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I do as I provide lubrication/service advice to people worldwide but I no longer own one. And BITOG is a forum for anything automotive and the largest of it's kind. Speaks volumes that most here aren't members.......

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

I respect those who understand empirical data and then make a decision. Very few here would understand that let alone follow it.

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Maybe we should have a UOA thread and show all the other stuff they can tell you about engine health?

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Go and read some UOA's and stop wasting your time here. If you need help PM me.

We are still waiting for your point to be proven. You have danced around everything and hinted anything of value would need to be discussed in PM. Also making it out like reading a UOA is some kind of god given gift that only you can do.

So please enlighten us all with the very, very bad data you have on K&N Filters. Im more than open for discussion and will happily learn if Im wrong, but over the last few days I have seen nothing to suggest so.

PHANTMXR6 · 29-09-2015, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Maybe we should have a UOA thread and show all the other stuff they can tell you about engine health?

I do already..... And the link is in my signature.

sprintman1 · 29-09-2015, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 99AUXR

We are still waiting for your point to be proven. You have danced around everything and hinted anything of value would need to be discussed in PM. Also making it out like reading a UOA is some kind of god given gift that only you can do.

So please enlighten us all with the very, very bad data you have on K&N Filters. Im more than open for discussion and will happily learn if Im wrong, but over the last few days I have seen nothing.

Can you read a UOA or can't you? I'm not going to hold your hand

Bossxr8 · 29-09-2015, 09:01 PM

He's still bringing up UOA's when 2 other members who have had them done and use K&N filters have had no problems. Talk about having egg on your face.

But i'm sure he will post another pollie post dancing around the issue to try to avoid scrutiny.

sprintman1 · 29-09-2015, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

He's still bringing up UOA's when 2 other members who have had them done and use K&N filters have had no problems. Talk about having egg on your face.

But i'm sure he will post another pollie post dancing around the issue to try to avoid scrutiny.

Two out of thousands? Aare you really that obtuse?

99AUXR · 29-09-2015, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Can you read a UOA or can't you? I'm not going to hold your hand

Yes I can. And you have avoided my question yet again. Im only carrying this on so people don't start following your opinions on K&N filters, unless you can provide cold hard results that state otherwise.

But at this stage I would assume my opinion and testing is sound and there is nothing wrong with the filtration of a K&N filter and anyone who uses one not going to see engine failure caused by the K&N filters 'lack of filtration'.

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Two out of thousands? Aare you really that obtuse?

Please move on from insulting members and provide data because at the moment you are only one out of thousands.