Citylink/Eastlink - Falcon Utes now commercial vehicles.

[Crazy Dazz]

I'm still not really sure what people are squawking about?

If you bought a Hilux (or Ranger) would that not be classified commercial?
There has to be a definition, there is, they have applied it. Just because you feel personally aggrieved doesn't make it wrong.

The current Commode utes, and the old Falcons don't have a separate chassis under the tub. ie , you can't remove the tub and substitute a tray or some other body. But you can with a Falcon, Hilux, etc. That's the definition, get over it.
They have to make a distinction somehow, and that's what it has always been.
I haven't had to look at it for a while, but last I did it was actually an advantage for FBT purposes.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

I'm still not really sure what people are squawking about?

If you bought a Hilux (or Ranger) would that not be classified commercial?
There has to be a definition, there is, they have applied it. Just because you feel personally aggrieved doesn't make it wrong.

The current Commode utes, and the old Falcons don't have a separate chassis under the tub. ie , you can't remove the tub and substitute a tray or some other body. But you can with a Falcon, Hilux, etc. That's the definition, get over it.
They have to make a distinction somehow, and that's what it has always been.
I haven't had to look at it for a while, but last I did it was actually an advantage for FBT purposes.

Toll catogories is cars, LCV & HCV, to me a car is a sedan & wagons, commercial vehicles have always been utes, panel vans, light trucks & heavy trucks when it came to registration.

Cheers.

[JG66ME]

I don't know about East Link but i just phoned Citylink and the confirmed my XR6 Ute is classed as a car. Not sure how you go with a one tonne payload tray.

Steven B

[Bill M]

Originally Posted by JG66ME

I don't know about East Link but i just phoned Citylink and the confirmed my XR6 Ute is classed as a car. Not sure how you go with a one tonne payload tray.

Steven B

I just received a letter from Citylink advising me that my styleside ute is now a light commercial, the flyer is date 14 july so I think Citylink is chasing parity with Eastlink
Been using citylink for 15 years in this same vehicle

[Bourbon Ute]

I had my plates nicked a fews months ago, got new plates (new numbers) and changed my info with Eastlink, bam! Its now a commercial vehicle. Spewing.
Will take the mrs car for those trips now.

[DJR-351]

Oh dear......

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/n...63f9f17da54f86

THOUSANDS of Ford ute drivers will have to fork out more than their Holden counterparts to travel on toll roads in Victoria.

EastLink and CityLink have both admitted to wrongly billing many Ford ute drivers who now face increased tolls. But owners of Holden utes remain untouched.

VicRoads classifies Holden utes as a “car” but a Ford Falcon ute as a “light commercial vehicle” due to differences in construction design.

This means a trip along EastLink from Springvale Rd to the Frankston Freeway would cost Ford Falcon ute drivers $9.67 while their Holden counterparts would be charged only $6.04.

A complete trip during peak time along CityLink in a Holden ute would cost $8.69 or $11.57 in a Ford.........

[Blue Shadow]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

Oh dear......

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/n...63f9f17da54f86

The people who set that up ate most likely the same ones that organised the census

Tools

[Matty4]

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11442776
Already being discussed here for a while.

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by Matty4

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11442776
Already being discussed here for a while.

No worries, just seen it on the news this morning.

[OzJavelin]

Originally Posted by Bourbon Ute

I had my plates nicked a fews months ago, got new plates (new numbers) and changed my info with Eastlink, bam! Its now a commercial vehicle. Spewing.
Will take the mrs car for those trips now.

Similar here .. etag stopped working .. applied for new one and get an additional letter indicating the FG XR6 ute is now classed and charged as commercial. Looking at this thread this has been around a long time .. why do they only seem to be contacting ute owners when they contact them?

Edit: Just reread a few posts up and realised looks like Citilink chasing parity with Eastlink ..

[Ford17]

In the news today:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/n...63f9f17da54f86

[Raptor]

Originally Posted by Matty4

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11442776
Already being discussed here for a while.

Threads are now merged











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[Silver Ghia]

Seems more than a coincidence that CityLink are now rigidly enforcing the commercial vehicle classification for Falcon utes, now that this vehicle is no longer being manufactured.

Ford wont care less about it now. They would have before, as they would have lost sales because of it. So I can see that CityLink are now taking advantage of the ute no longer being in production.

[Bill M]

The disparity is the Holden utility still stays as private if registered as such but a Falcon ute with the same rear tub style is a commercial? This is a grey area. As for Ford classing it as commercial it was them that embraced the 'Sports ute" market
As for those who insist we should suck it up, Bollocks! If you sit on your ar$e and do nothing then you will get ripped off and walked on.
cheers
Bill.

[Matty4]

If all Commodore Utes are still classified as cars because the tub is integral with the cab, where does that leave the Crewman ute?

[Blue Shadow]

Originally Posted by Matty4

If all Commodore Utes are still classified as cars because the tub is integral with the cab, where does that leave the Crewman ute?

A sedan, LOL, who knows what they do

[hodge_williams]

I heard Eddie Mcguire giving it to an Eastlink rep today on Triple M Melbourne, arguing the Falcon Ute is the same a Commodore Ute and them classifying the Falcon as a light commercial was all BS and to give the Falcon Ute owners a fair go.

Needless to say they really didn't give 2 sh... about it, but at least media are jumping on this now and applying pressure.

[Blue Shadow]

Is it only in Melbourne that this is happening or other states too, ill check the QLD govia,

[78xcgxl]

When i got my etag for my falcon ute i just put down that is was not a Light commercial as i knew i would be forking out more. Will continue using the same etag hahah

[nstg8a]

Gonna be a bit about it on the project tonight too.


To me it's bordering on fraud, especially for those cases where historically they've been charged at one rate then one day just decided to change the rules And charge what they want.



To charge a commercial rate, the vehicle in question should be in use in a commercial capacity.

[Lane351]

Originally Posted by Blue Shadow

Is it only in Melbourne that this is happening or other states too, ill check the QLD govia,

I own a BA one tonner for private use Im in SA by the way, on my rego it comes as a small truck ,higher rego fees not happy at all

[superroo]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

To charge a commercial rate, the vehicle in question should be in use in a commercial capacity.

You should check what they are homologated as then.

Conversely, I don't see anyone complaining about the cheaper rego that falcon utes pay compared to sedans.
Don't know about commodore equivalent though....

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by superroo

You should check what they are homologated as then.

Conversely, I don't see anyone complaining about the cheaper rego that falcon utes pay compared to sedans.
Don't know about commodore equivalent though....

Here in qld Utes are dearer to register.

[Lane351]

Originally Posted by superroo

You should check what they are homologated as then.

Conversely, I don't see anyone complaining about the cheaper rego that falcon utes pay compared to sedans.
Don't know about commodore equivalent though....

Cheaper rego ? not so in SA

[Adamz Ghia]

Originally Posted by superroo

You should check what they are homologated as then.

Conversely, I don't see anyone complaining about the cheaper rego that falcon utes pay compared to sedans.
Don't know about commodore equivalent though....

According to VicRoads, they're the same rego wise.

[kazawaki]

Pursuit 2014 ute redg says vl light vehicle so I presume that's a car says nothing about commercial.Doesnt really affect me as I rarely use toll roads but I would like them to explain to me what sort of commercial vehicle has a v8 supercharged engine.

[nstg8a]

So I wonder if those vy/vz one tonner conversions get hit as a commercial vehicle as well?

[superroo]

Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

According to VicRoads, they're the same rego wise.

Nope


Paid last month. Same address, same owner, 1 day different expiry
1999 AU1 ute
Rego: $284.70
TAC: $347.00
Duty: $34.70
Total: $666.40

2000 AU2 Fairmont
Rego: $284.70
TAC: $410.00
Duty: $41.00
Total: $735.70

Few details here:
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/~/me...cles.pdf?la=en
Seams its only cheaper if you don't live in the city

[Adamz Ghia]

Originally Posted by superroo

Nope


Paid last month. Same address, same owner, 1 day different expiry
1999 AU1 ute
Rego: $284.70
TAC: $347.00
Duty: $34.70
Total: $666.40

2000 AU2 Fairmont
Rego: $284.70
TAC: $410.00
Duty: $41.00
Total: $735.70

Few details here:
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/~/me...cles.pdf?la=en
Seams its only cheaper if you don't live in the city

I was referring to Falcon Ute v Commodore Ute. I have a Falcon Ute, love the cheaper rego. My car is longer, wider and heavier than my other halfs 3 yet is cheaper to register.

[Blue Shadow]

Originally Posted by superroo

Nope


Paid last month. Same address, same owner, 1 day different expiry
1999 AU1 ute
Rego: $284.70
TAC: $347.00
Duty: $34.70
Total: $666.40

2000 AU2 Fairmont
Rego: $284.70
TAC: $410.00
Duty: $41.00
Total: $735.70

Few details here:
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/~/me...cles.pdf?la=en
Seams its only cheaper if you don't live in the city

Paid my AUII xr8 ute last week $599 for 6 months