Holden SS-V Redline Ute vs FPV GT 335

[Motorbreath310]

^^ that's exactly what the VY SS badge used to remind me of.

Let's be realistic about it though. They're just Falcon's and Commodores: GT badge, or not. It's not like the GT badge means much anymore.

*zips up flame suit, puts on flame helmet, straps on flame boots, hops into flame house in flame county*

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by 40RDT

$34 500 drive away? If so thats a pretty good price

Yep! Manual

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by Motorbreath310

^^ that's exactly what the VY SS badge used to remind me of.

Let's be realistic about it though. They're just Falcon's and Commodores: GT badge, or not. It's not like the GT badge means much anymore.

*zips up flame suit, puts on flame helmet, straps on flame boots, hops into flame house in flame county*

Yep ..... just as much as an AMG and M series is just a German Taxi

[Motorbreath310]

Getting back on topic: Redline utes will be common as muck, soon. You've already owned an FG, but it's a mk.II at least. And the GT does have a certain presence about. Haven't sat in a VF, but I always thought FG's were a lot more comfortable than VE's.

Unless you had to change cars now, I'd give it a while and see what else comes out.

Edit: get an SS or SSV sedan and mod it. At least then, you don't have to have it in 'swift'. And another FG is just gonna be another FG (takes away the excitement of a new car) with a ripper engine and trans, and a little orange badge.

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by Motorbreath310

^^ that's exactly what the VY SS badge used to remind me of.

Let's be realistic about it though. They're just Falcon's and Commodores: GT badge, or not. It's not like the GT badge means much anymore.

*zips up flame suit, puts on flame helmet, straps on flame boots, hops into flame house in flame county*

Yeah, that's the reality these days.

I laugh when people somehow convince themselves they somehow aren't actually in a Falcon or Commodore when buying HSV/FPVs, when quite clearly it is one under all the wings and go fast bits.

Falcon and Commodores are great value cars even standard compared to Euros here, nothing to be ashamed of and getting a hypo version is even better!

[40RDT]

Originally Posted by DASH GT

Yep! Manual

Very good value considering its a new model

[Nitroxr6ute]

Very tempting, opinions on colour?

[au2000]

Originally I was not a fan of swift..... But I do like it now. Just that bit different

[40RDT]

Unique colour looks pretty good

[Alan D Segal]

+1. Swift is the shiznit. Best colour in the range in my opinion.

[MercuryT]

I really like that colour.

I think Red with black stripes or vice versa look the best though!

Persoanlly white cars don't do it for me, but with the GT it isn't so bad either - in fact the car would probably look good in anything!!

[1TUFFUTE]

Anyone who buys a GT knows they're buying a ford falcon GT. It's the clowns who think the GT badge doesn't mean anything that have the problem. The racing history, homegrown engineering brilliance in the car is a good start as to why a GT isn't just a falcon. It has history,heritage,and value to a lot of people.
Who says in 20, 30 years time the current Australian engineered SC GT335 won't be ' similar' to the xy GTs getting a million now!maybe not that much but hey.....

A ss redline......don't make me laugh.....that'll have p plates on it

[Alan D Segal]

I personally think you're deluded if you buy a car to drive now over anything else at a similar price point in the hope it will be a good investment in 20-30 years time. I don't think a FPV FG GT will ever be worth more than around $100k. People might ask that for them but they probably will not get what they ask.

The R specs might be the exception. But not a 'normal' FG GT.

So what can you hope to gain? 40 grand over 20-30 years? Better off buying a BA and having the other $45k in a term deposit or something.

There's rarer, more collectible Australian muscle cars with as much history and heritage that are getting into collectible age ranges and they're not worth $100k, so what makes the FG GT so special?

I wouldn't be buying with future values in mind unless I was going to keep it undriven in a garage for the next 20-30 years. If I could afford to do that (and I can't) I'd buy both. Or maybe just a R Spec or a new GTS. Or a W427.

Might not be a popular view, but that's how I see it.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by Alan D Segal

I personally think you're deluded if you buy a car to drive now over anything else at a similar price point in the hope it will be a good investment in 20-30 years time. I don't think a FPV FG GT will ever be worth more than around $100k. People might ask that for them but they probably will not get what they ask.

+1

EB GT's which are in that age bracket aren't even close to their new price, and they were the first GT after a long pause, and a limited run. BA GTs onwards were regular production models.

The GTs of old may also have been regular models (to a degree), but they were also race cars for all intents and purposes, very close to what was run on track back in the day and helped make the great race so iconic. It cant be understated how much this contributes toward their mystique and appeal.

[Rodge]

The extremly remote chance of a regular GT being an investment of sorts compared to a SSV-Redline is immaterial to the decision making process. Better to focus on the conumdrum of the handling and technology vs power aspects of this in my opinion.

[Alan D Segal]

Well said Rodge.

[Motorbreath310]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

Anyone who buys a GT knows they're buying a ford falcon GT. It's the clowns who think the GT badge doesn't mean anything that have the problem. The racing history, homegrown engineering brilliance in the car is a good start as to why a GT isn't just a falcon. It has history,heritage,and value to a lot of people.

You're gonna hate me even more for this, but: If He wanted something with badge and/or race history, and homegrown Aussie-engineering brilliance, wouldn't He be better off buying a VF GTS?

[40RDT]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

Anyone who buys a GT knows they're buying a ford falcon GT. It's the clowns who think the GT badge doesn't mean anything that have the problem. The racing history, homegrown engineering brilliance in the car is a good start as to why a GT isn't just a falcon. It has history,heritage,and value to a lot of people.
Who says in 20, 30 years time the current Australian engineered SC GT335 won't be ' similar' to the xy GTs getting a million now!maybe not that much but hey.....

A ss redline......don't make me laugh.....that'll have p plates on it

With no racing history the current FPV GT in 20 years will probably be the same as the now 20 year old EB GT's, not worth much at all.

[duaned]

Originally Posted by BHDOGS

*** the redline oh look another ute u can't see out of the gt there goes a man with class probably muscles apon muscles and a big dick no doubt that the lady's love a mans man

Seriously childish post. You need to grow up.

[PepeLePew]

Ask yourself a couple of things. Do you like to blend in or stand out? GT's get noticed contrary to the naysayers. Secondly when do you intend to sell? Consider retained value of the VF against the GT in whatever timeframe you're thinking about.

Is your bias toys or motivation? After I test drove Miami it was cut and shut, but gadgets bore me.

Good luck with whatever choice you make, I don't blame you we're spoiled for choice with a door that is rapidly being slammed in our faces.

[BHDOGS]

Originally Posted by duaned

Seriously childish post. You need to grow up.

[Motorbreath310]

Originally Posted by duaned

Seriously childish post. You need to grow up.

He's just passionate - leave Him alone

[No.6]

I can see why you feel you are in two minds as I myself love tech in cars. But in my honest, unbiased opinion I would choose the GT. The engine is what makes that car special. And the tech isn't bad either? the 2013's come with touch screen capability on a much larger screen than the mk1's right?

[Nitroxr6ute]

Originally Posted by Nitroxr6ute

Hi,


2013 FPV GT Auto
120k's on the clock
Swift
Leather Trim and Sat Nav
Fusion Paint and Interior Protection (did not want but were already were applied to the car)
Window Tint
65k Driveaway with Ford's latest interest deal at 2.9% on 2013 plated fpv's.

Equals out to be about $1275 per month over 4 years.

Thanks.

With the above options, some wanted some not, do you think I should be able to get it for around 62k driveaway?

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Nitroxr6ute

With the above options, some wanted some not, do you think I should be able to get it for around 62k driveaway?

all you can do is say " I will sign the contract right now for $62K drive away"

[MercuryT]

I reckon they would take 62K for sure. Ford will be trying to shift cars as quickly as they possibly can (within reason).

Resale is going to be hammered, but that is what happens when buying a new car, especially a Commo or Falcon. So buy as cheap as possible to start with!

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by Motorbreath310

You're gonna hate me even more for this, but: If He wanted something with badge and/or race history, and homegrown Aussie-engineering brilliance, wouldn't He be better off buying a VF GTS?

The heart of that car is a crate motor from the states. The GT heart is 70% Aussie! but if the guy had a 100k budget.....there'd be a massive list of cars people would be suggesting at that price range. At the GT price range there's only a few
Even my dead grand mother understands that even a vf GTS will never be worth 100k. Even then it's not all about these cars holding their value....what about the prestige of the GT badge....that will be there no matter how old the car gets. So will the ss Holden badges!

[Elks]

I'm struggling to see the prestige in Holden Ute. Even if it's one with all the gadgets.

[johnydep]

Originally Posted by Nitroxr6ute

Hi,

I am considering buying either of the two listed above, the Redline will cost me $1620 per month based on an average interest rate of 7.5%, whilst the GT based on Ford's latest deal being 2.9% $1700 per month. Because the monthly payments between the two are quite close, this has made the decision process much harder.

The two deals I've been able to obtain are:

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Comparing a ute and a sedan

The SS-V ute has been described as a "sports car with large boot", but it's still a ute.

You need to work out what you need in a car - road trips, passengers, load, work, modifications, etc.

My SS-V ute was a work related purchase, and it's perfect for that purpose. Though I do love driving it every chance I get, and it does attract attention - great for business.

The GT... well its a GT, what more can you say

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by Elks

I'm struggling to see the prestige in Holden Ute. Even if it's one with all the gadgets.

The last Australian ute with a V8.
End of an era.