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Old 06-05-2013, 04:12 PM   #61
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there is a vid on youtube somewhere of they taking an F150 Raptor around that track,i think it was posted in these forums a while back
The raptor did an unofficial time of 9min 48sec driven by Tanner Foust and the raptor was limited to 100mph.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:26 AM   #62
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Considering the only 'utes' in the world are the Falcon ute and Commodore ute its not that hard to be the fastest ute in the world round the ring. Sure you can add Yank trucks to that category if you want but ute is an Aussie thing and is a truck version of an existing car, something an F-Truck is not. Good bit of publicity but a proper race car driver instead of a businessman would have been smarter.
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They got it down to 8:19:47

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Old 01-07-2013, 09:49 AM   #64
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Considering the only 'utes' in the world are the Falcon ute and Commodore ute its not that hard to be the fastest ute in the world round the ring. Sure you can add Yank trucks to that category if you want but ute is an Aussie thing and is a truck version of an existing car, something an F-Truck is not. Good bit of publicity but a proper race car driver instead of a businessman would have been smarter.
Yes exactly !

UTE = Vehicles featuring a coupe passenger compartment with an attached cargo bed. All-steel-bodied utility vehicles, more commonly called utes, were invented in Australia.

HATCHBACK = A hatchback is a type of car which has both a sloped back and a rear door that swings upwards when opened.


Begs question why are the Megane and Holden Ute being compared together.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:54 AM   #65
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If GM was going for the fastest ute title, as Joshua Dowling is suggesting, why didn't they use the SV enhanced Maloo R8? You know, the top of the range Holden ute offering? It has more power and bigger brakes that should make it quicker on track than the SSV Redline.

I also agree with others that at least Holden took a car there and tested it. I'd love to see some FPVs on that track.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:29 AM   #66
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lucky they have plenty of tax payers money to throw around
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:11 PM   #67
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If GM was going for the fastest ute title, as Joshua Dowling is suggesting, why didn't they use the SV enhanced Maloo R8? You know, the top of the range Holden ute offering? It has more power and bigger brakes that should make it quicker on track than the SSV Redline.

I also agree with others that at least Holden took a car there and tested it. I'd love to see some FPVs on that track.
Because it is a HSV not a Holden. Just as a GT is a FPV not a Ford.
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HSV are basically just a subsidiary to Holden, same as Holden is to GM. No reason Holden couldn't have taken a Maloo.
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Considering the place it (a Megane) came in Targa Tasmania, comes as no surprise to me.

Stock Commodore SS utes are a very blunt tool, Ive raced them at Baskerville, they might be fully sick to the cashed up Apprentice Tradesmen, but track heroes they do not make.
Come off it !
Stock SS sedan or wagon vs SS ute what is the big diference when driving them ? bugger all. compared to a F1 they maybe blunt. but horses for ?
FJ ute vs the VF SS ute now that is very sharp tool we have today.
Bit big and heavy for a racing car but that's not what they are made for is it.
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Car was driven by Rob Trubiani and did an 8:19.
JD doesn't know what he's talking about.

http://media.gm.com/content/media/au...28_VF_UTE.html
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Because it is a HSV not a Holden. Just as a GT is a FPV not a Ford.
Where was FPV when the real GT's were around, or even with the EB/EL?

They are fords.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:45 PM   #72
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What does the 'F' stand for in FPV or FTE? What does the 'H' stand for in HSV or HDT?
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:01 PM   #73
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More here,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bap0X...layer_embedded
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It's really a great achievement to get a record in a category where there are no other competitors, and you're the winner by default. Bravo Holden.
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Well maybe you need to be a bit clearer about to whom you are ****** of with next time, your first post certainly seems to me it was aimed at some of those who posted before you, no mention of JD or the article....I wasn't defending the article, just those that posted.....
dont worry mate, its pretty clear he went off tap because a single random person called the renault a "migraine"

and so because he owns one, he will fight to the death to protect the car from any name calling, even though it may not have been aimed directly at his particular vehicle.

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I guess some people aren't as hard as you are buddy.
When Clint Eastwood is your pinup boy you are hard - with a sensitive side, that will come out later in life.

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lucky they have plenty of tax payers money to throw around
They had a few million of tax payers money in the back to help keep the tail down. Later they destroyed the money with the car. Laughed hysterically and flew first class back to Australia. They threw the remaining Euro currency they had in their pockets, also tax payers, into the nearest bin at the airport, before driving to Parliament house to pickup some more of that sweet tax payer cash.

Oh yeah. They have plenty of tax payer cash. You had better believe it bro.
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I wonder if Hyundai Veloster should try for the Nurburglar record for cars with different numbers of doors on each side.....
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Come off it !
Stock SS sedan or wagon vs SS ute what is the big diference when driving them ? bugger all. compared to a F1 they maybe blunt. but horses for ?
FJ ute vs the VF SS ute now that is very sharp tool we have today.
Bit big and heavy for a racing car but that's not what they are made for is it.
Come off what?

Exactly what point are you attempting to make?

Stock SS sedan, wagon, and ute, indeed, there's bugger all difference, they're all blunt. On a tack.

They are big and heavy. And they aren't made for racing. But that didn't stop Hollden taking one to the 'Ring did it?

The Meganne isn't made for the track. It's a hot road hatch pitched at the likes of Audi S3, WRX, etc. All road cars last time I checked. All quicker than an SS ute around a track. Shock horror!

My point, as you have obviously missed it (Doh!) is that the Meganne factually runs circles (or in this case, rings) around a blunt Holden SS, and Josh stoopid Dowelling should have thought that fact as being no surprise at all.
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Just had a look, thats a very fast lap! Nothing to snicker at! Some good driving too!
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My point, as you have obviously missed it (Doh!) is that the Meganne factually runs circles (or in this case, rings) around a blunt Holden SS, and Josh stoopid Dowelling should have thought that fact as being no surprise at all.
I don't disagree that there should be no surprise that the Renault Megane Trophy car is quicker on the track than the VF SS Redline ute, but since when was 0.55 of a second per kilometre 'running circles' around something? That's like beating someone over the 1/4 mile by 0.2 of a second and saying you 'ran circles' around them.
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