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Old 09-02-2011, 01:20 PM   #61
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You and me both. Especially now that the wagon is gone. Let's say ~$42,000 for a Diesel RWD, they'll make a killing from fleets.
The clincher however (for government fleets anyway) is going to be tailpipe emissions - hopefully it will be under 230g/klm.
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Where are the engine specs for the diesel?
As others have said next month.

But the standard output in the Land Rovers was 140kW/440Nm.

The tuning potential is good though.
http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/...el-tuning.html

Those guys offer 171kW/530Nm.

So clearly there could be some scope for Ford to tickle it. However, aiming ofr sub 230g/km of CO2 will likely be the aim.

With a really short and off boost diesel friendly 1st gear in the ZF, these things will move swiftly.

Hope the sales are crackers!

PS 230g/km of CO2 is 8.7L/100km of diesel.
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What gearbox did the rovers have with the 2.7?
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With a bigger towing capacity this may become the default choice of people who tow. People have been having to buy clumsy off-roaders for far too long for big towing duties.

I think the TS will be very popular, I dont think Titianium has enough equipment to justify the Titanium name (and probably price) to be honest.

Preffered they kept the it as Ghia and down the track bring in the Titianium to sit above the Ghia with sunroof, xenons, front parking sensors, keyless start, radar cruise...etc. Only complaint of what is a great looking car.

An off-roady version would be good, nothing outrageous, just some chunkier tyres, downhill descent, plastic wheel arch flares and some bright colours - would popular with a lot of younger blokes, be a good little seller. likewise with an XR6 version. Currently at the moment TX, TS and Titanium all appeal to the same group, it would be good to broaden it a bit.
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What gearbox did the rovers have with the 2.7?
The ZF.

I don't think there is any confusion over which gearbox Territory will be running standard.


kaniSS - never has been. The market Ford were originally aiming for would have bought very few manuals, that they would have struggled to recoup the investment into the transmission. Chances are, it would have only been available on the TX anyway (as the TS was a last minute decision).
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Territory with modern TD should sell in great numbers. It is locally made ,handles great for an suv and it should be economical and safe.
Hopefully quality niggles have been ironed out.
In reality Ford needed this car 2 3 years ago but better now then never :-)
I will test drive it when available and if it as good as I think it might be buy one .

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Why a 6 cylinder Turbo Diesel and not a 4 ? Other manufactures have brilliant common rail 4 cylinder turbo diesels..............
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Why a 6 cylinder Turbo Diesel and not a 4 ? Other manufactures have brilliant common rail 4 cylinder turbo diesels..............
Why not? Why a 4cyl TDi and not a 6? The 2.7 was readily available and suited the car's needs well without too much buggering around. They probably got it for a reasonable price too. It also leaves room for an upgrade path with either that engine or the newer 3.0 for the next model if they like.

For the record, they tried the 4cyl TD out of the Ranger and decided that it did not have the level of refinement for a passenger car. Too much NVH. Other 4cyl TD motors in the Ford world are for FWD passenger cars and lacked the power and torque for the Territory's weight etc
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Why not? Why a 4cyl TDi and not a 6? The 2.7 was readily available and suited the car's needs well without too much buggering around. They probably got it for a reasonable price too. It also leaves room for an upgrade path with either that engine or the newer 3.0 for the next model if they like.

For the record, they tried the 4cyl TD out of the Ranger and decided that it did not have the level of refinement for a passenger car. Too much NVH. Other 4cyl TD motors in the Ford world are for FWD passenger cars and lacked the power and torque for the Territory's weight etc
They tried a couple of other engines as well, including a modification of a long lived Ford engine, and also the Volvo i5TD, but decided against that one for NVH and power reasons.
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Why a 6 cylinder Turbo Diesel and not a 4 ? Other manufactures have brilliant common rail 4 cylinder turbo diesels..............
The engine was sourced through Ford Channels before Gorman was on the scene. Then the unit canned and then rushed back. So to get the unit to market quicker and cheaper they used that engine.
Doesn't really matter at mid 8L/100 its not like its a drinker.

But this is a big thing Ford will need to push. The look of the car will get the punters in but they need to know its not gonna cost them the earth to own one.
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An off-roady version would be good, nothing outrageous, just some chunkier tyres, downhill descent, plastic wheel arch flares and some bright colours - would popular with a lot of younger blokes, be a good little seller. likewise with an XR6 version. Currently at the moment TX, TS and Titanium all appeal to the same group, it would be good to broaden it a bit.
That would most definatly appeal to me.
If they also add a central diff lock on the awd models your laughing (as an option at least, actually makes it usefull off road if paired with higher clearance).
Certainly widens the range and would certainly become the ultimate family vehicle. I think this idea would sell, but seemingly so, FoMoCoAu dont think so.
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Honestly I think they would sell more of an XR6 version than they would an off road version.

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They tried a couple of other engines as well, including a modification of a long lived Ford engine, and also the Volvo i5TD, but decided against that one for NVH and power reasons.
Would that be the rumoured diesel experiment with the Barra I6? Christ, that thing would have been an absolute grunt monster. 600nm anyone?
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Would that be the rumoured diesel experiment with the Barra I6? Christ, that thing would have been an absolute grunt monster. 600nm anyone?
Yup.

It was...

Edit: Geoff Polites was a visionary in more areas than one. He set Ford Australia up for the rest of the decade when he left, only to have it changed by Tom Gorman and a Board of Directors that lacked the visionary CEO that they had. Nothing changed until Burela, and it is a crying shame that he isn't around to launch the SZ.
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Why a 6 cylinder Turbo Diesel and not a 4 ? Other manufactures have brilliant common rail 4 cylinder turbo diesels..............
Mitsubishi claim 8.4l/100km consumption in a manual Pajero 3.2 DI-D, that's with 147kw and 441nm from a 4 cylinder diesel. The Paj weighs 2300 odd kgs.

I'd expect sub 8l/100km from the Territory TD if indeed it does get 140kw/440nm output. From memory my TTG tipped the scales at 2100kgs which is 300kgs lighter than the Paj.

Extra Urban cycle should see low/mid 7's/100km at 90/100kmh provided Ford haven't stuffed overall gearing.
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If they made a terry that was 2" higher than normal, had 31" and had a low range box this thing would be great for touring!!
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Ford has finally unleashed information on the production version of the 2011 Territory, giving us all the skinny on what Australian buyers can look forward to when the crossover hits showrooms this May. The party gets started with an all-new exterior that makes use of Ford's kudzu-like kinetic design language. The Territory now wears a fascia that's reminiscent of the new global Focus and more than a few Aston Martin products, and the rear produces a cohesive look thanks to integrated glass in the rear quarters and hatch.

The Territory will be available in three configurations when it lands: TX, TS and Titanium and while there's preciously little information available about what will power those machines, we do know that a diesel mill will find its way under the hood. There's also some indication that the CUV won't be available with a manual transmission no matter what engine you opt for.

Inside, Ford has graced the new Territory with an interior that borrows a bit from the Falcon. A large LCD touch screen dominates the dash, and the center stack looks to be cleanly designed. Hit the jump for the full press release.

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Ford Australia today officially unveiled its stunning new Territory SUV.
Following an extensive development programme the covers have finally come off the highly anticipated new-model Ford Territory.

The Australian-designed-and-developed SUV (Sports Utility Vehicle) has undergone an extensive visual update inside and out. The new Territory wears a stylish suit cut from Ford's kinetic design language and its bold new look makes it instantly recognisable as a member of Ford's comprehensive model family.

Redesigning the multi-award-winning Territory meant building on its already clean and attractive looks, the result of the first-generation Territory's original design goal: to create a vehicle that embodied the strength and power of a traditional SUV while having the prestige, agility and nimbleness of a sporting sedan. The new Territory has taken this to another level.

Underpinning new Territory's design was its dual personality: a sophisticated and sporty urban wagon for weekdays and a family getaway vehicle on weekends. Successfully presenting these two functional roles in an exciting visual form was the responsibility of the Ford Australia design team, headed by Chris Svensson, Design Director for Ford Asia Pacific and Africa.
"We worked hard to ensure the new Territory was an evolution of the original model and, through the use of Ford's distinct design DNA, also gave a hint of the future," Svensson said.

"To achieve this we applied Ford's unique style philosophy: kinetic design.

"Kinetic design comprises several specific elements, all of which are present in the new Territory. They are confident stance, dynamic lines, expressive form language, taut surfacing, bold graphics and great detailing.

"When you combine them they convey movement and athleticism. In other words, the vehicle looks like it is moving when standing still," Svensson said.

"The overall visual effect of kinetic design is simple: in the case of the new Territory it communicates its dynamic capabilities and fun-to-drive spirit."

Externally, significant changes to Territory's styling have resulted in a stunning new look. At the front, the vehicle uses an all-new tri-plane front-end architecture. The new trapezoid-shaped main grille is one of the new Territory's most noticeable updates. This larger, lower grille in a unique three-bar design connects with the slim-line treatment given to the upper grille opening, a feature which sees the famous Ford roundel now surrounded by its own elegant winged structure.

New slim-line headlights with projector beam technology are another stand-out feature of the new Territory's frontal styling. The high-series Titanium variant takes this a step further with the introduction of LED (Light-Emitting Diode) position lamps integrated into its redesigned front bumper. At the bottom of Territory's new face is a U-formed lower chin skid plate.

Combining these stunning elements has produced an impressive new look.
"New Territory's unique frontal design was recognised by Ford's Global Design Management as a key feature that not only identified Territory as a distinctly Australian product, but also embodies cues that are core to the Ford design DNA," Chris Svensson said.

"That's the strength of our global One Ford philosophy. The design of Territory was developed as part of our global philosophy but specifically crafted to appeal to the Australian consumer."

Moving rearwards, the new Territory sports a sculpted new bonnet and subtle flutes for the front guards. Bold wheel lips emphasise its athletic stance.

A new C-pillar design smooths the transition from front to rear. Resurfaced door cladding and a lower rocker moulding combine to give Territory a lower, athletic stance.

At the rear, Svensson's highly skilled team has made a number of enhancements. New Territory sports sleek horizontal tail lights that wrap around the rear of the vehicle that create a seamless visual link to the rear of the vehicle. Connecting them is a new rear lift-gate applique. Finishing the new rear styling is a redesigned bumper and new lower-level valence panel.

Rounding out new Territory's exterior is a new catalogue of locally designed wheels, which will be available in diameters of 17 and 18 inches in model-specific designs.

On the inside, the popular SUV maintains its famed ability for almost endless adaptation to Australian lifestyles. Its car-like cabin is sporty and sophisticated and continues its "dual personality" theme by delivering stunning form and excellent function.

The new Territory is fitted with an all-new Instrument Panel (IP) featuring - for the first time - an eight-inch touch screen and new functional storage solutions. Territory drivers will find the technologically advanced touch screen both easy to reach and use and its central location makes it simple for both front occupants to operate.

A new four-spoke steering wheel puts drivers in control of the new Territory's impressive handling capabilities and gives finger-tip control to audio and cruise control functions.

Territory's new Interior Command Centre (ICC) provides front-seat occupants with familiar and simple-to-use controls for functions such as heating, ventilation and air conditioning. At the bottom of this new ICC is an all-new storage area.

This stylish and functional feature uses a smooth-action tambour door which adds to the interior's equally smooth style. It is here the new IP connects with Territory's stylish and functional centre console. Versatile cup holders, deep console bin storage and USB / iPod connectivity exemplify Territory's famed user-friendliness.

Carefully selected materials and colours bring the new Territory's exterior design inside. For example, high-gloss spears adorn the centre console in the Territory Titanium and connect the front of the interior with the middle seat row. Spears of a similar design feature on the new IP.

Chris Svensson: "The contemporary design of the new Territory combines stylish surfacing, exact proportions and high-quality finishes with advanced engineering and delivers a vehicle that is even further refined and composed on the road."

THE NEW FORD TERRITORY: EXTERIOR DESIGN

"Our goal was to ensure the new Ford Territory was an evolution of the original model but also gave a glimpse of the future through its Ford-specific design DNA." - Todd Willing, Design Manager – Exterior

For some, designing a vehicle with two personalities would be considered a tough challenge. Not for Todd Willing, Ford Asia Pacific and Africa's Melbourne-based chief designer responsible for the new Territory's stunning look.

"Territory's credentials as the weekday family car ideal for weekend getaways are well established and it is this dual personality - one of Territory's many attractive features - that is emphasised in its new exterior design," Willing said.
"The new Territory exhibits a rugged outdoors-oriented look but its contemporary design is just as at home in the city.
"Keeping that connection was important, as was showcasing Ford's distinct design DNA - especially the styling hallmarks from the company's passenger car family."

Front

The front end of the new Ford Territory uses a modern tri-plane design. This kinetic facial layout achieves its dynamic look by combining several important elements.

Precision-design projector headlights give the new Territory an immediate attitude that is modern and polished. These are connected visually by a slim-line upper air intake grille that wears a unique wing-formed shape formed from a single bar. This sharp design element surrounds the centrally mounted Blue Oval badge. It is an entirely new design feature from the Ford Australia design team.

"By adding some definition around the Ford badge we have made it more three-dimensional and prominent without changing its size," Willing said.

"It is an important feature fitted to the new Territory's frontal design and one which has the potential to be adopted elsewhere."

One of new Territory's most dominating frontal features is its new centrally located main grille opening. This clipped trapezoidal air intake is an important part of Territory's kinetic styling and features an eye-catching triple open-bar design. These bars are given additional attention on the range-leading Titanium version by wearing a chrome finish for a high-jewel effect.

"Dominating the front-end design of the new Territory is its striking trapezoid main grille, a design feature our global design colleagues have recognised as highly creative in forging Territory as a uniquely Australian design," Willing said.
The clipped trapezoid-shaped air intake is more than just a showpiece; its eye-catching shape is also the result of the Territory's cooling needs.

Todd Willing: "The overall main grille design is tied into Territory's engine cooling airflow requirements so getting the final shape absolutely correct had as much to do with engineering as it did aesthetics."

Moving downwards, new Territory's face is completed by an integrated U-form lower chin skid plate. This subtle design feature emphasises Territory's versatility as an outdoor-lifestyle vehicle. It is also a strong yet smooth design element that finishes the vehicle's new frontal style.

Another first for new Territory is the fitment of high-tech LED (Light-Emitting Diode) position lamps. These are fitted to the range-leading Territory Titanium and are usually found on more expensive European SUVs. They are located at the outer edges of the lower trapezoid grille and they operate as position lamps. They also constitute a signature design feature for Territory Titanium. Round fog lights are fitted to the mid-range TS model.

Bonnet

Moving up to the bonnet, Willing and his team have added more surface sculpting.
"We wanted to add more muscularity to the bonnet design with a modest bulge that hints at the available power underneath," Willing said.

"These details refer to the arrival of the new TDCi V6 engine and the finer sculpture treatments across both the bonnet and front of the car add to the message of a more dynamic design."

Side profile

The new Territory wears fender features, also known as guard flutes, that add to its sense of strength. This design detail also helps differentiate between each of the models in the series: TX, TS and Titanium. The chrome finish fitted to the Titanium hints at its premium status.

Willing: "The Territory's doors now wear a more integrated design and we have surfaced the door cladding and lower door moulding to make it flusher. The body is given a lower look overall which is a more dynamic appearance."
The SUV's integrated roof rails carry over from the outgoing model Territory and make cross-bar mounting easy to enhance the vehicle's versatility.

Rear

To unite the new Territory's front and rear designs Willing's team has made the C-pillar sit flush with the body and there is a subtle kink to the top edge of the C-pillar side window to give a more three-dimensional look.

"The new Territory's rear-three-quarter sheet metal is all new and this gave us the freedom to give it a sleek and modern finish," Willing said.

"The rear side glass is also clipped to sharpen the new Territory's overall profile."

Immediately apparent at the rear of the new Territory is the new design of its tail lights. These shoulder-set lights wrap around into Territory's rear three-quarter panels and connect the side- and rear-end treatments. Their design is more car-like and their jewel-like effect transforms the look of the new Territory at the rear, especially at a three-quarter angle.
A number of subtle yet highly effective enhancements underpin the new Territory's overall modern rear styling.

"We have been able to connect the tail-light treatment with a new rear lift-gate appliqué across the back of the car," Todd Willing said. "This not only looks more contemporary but helps visually widen the rear of the car."

"The rear bumper has been restyled along with the rear lower protective skid plate - a feature which matches that used on the front of the car as well as the hexagonal design used in Territory's door kick plates."

The range-leading Titanium model features twin chrome C-shaped accents embedded into the lower valence panel. This subtle graphic touch again differentiates the range-leading version and helps emphasise new Territory's tapered rear design.

The new Territory retains the clever multi-piece tailgate with integrated release handle and easy-access flip-glass.

Ford Territory model family

While all vehicles in the new Territory model range share the same core design principles and high standards of finish, the three separate TX, TS and Titanium models are distinguished by their own unique exterior design characteristics. They are summarised below.

Model-by-model exterior designs

- TX (model series entry)
- Front upper grille: Moulded black
- Front upper grille Finisher: Painted black
- Front lower grille: Moulded black
- Front lower grille Finisher: Satin Chrome (E-Plate)
- Front lamp inner bezel: Satin Chrome (E-Plate)
- Front skid plate: Moulded black
- Wheels: 17-inch alloys painted Alpine Silver
- Fender feature: Moulded black surround and inner bezel with directional indicator
- Beltline moulding: High chrome
- Rear skid plate: Moulded black
- Lower bumper garnish inserts: Painted black
- TS (mid-series model)
- Front upper grille: Moulded black
- Front upper grille finisher: Painted Satin Alloy
- Front lower grille: Moulded black
- Front lower grille Finisher: Satin Chrome (E-Plate)
- Front fog lamp inner bezels: High chrome
- Front skid plate: Painted Satin Alloy
- Wheels: 18-inch alloys with painted and machined face
- Fender feature: Moulded black surround and inner bezel with directional indicator
- Beltline moulding: High chrome
- Rear skid plate: Painted Satin Alloy
- Lower bumper garnish inserts: Painted black
- Titanium (high-series model)
- Front upper grille: Moulded black
- Front upper grille Finisher: High Chrome
- Front lower grille: Moulded black
- Front lower grille finisher: High Chrome
- Front position lamp Inner Bezels: High Chrome with LED light bar
- Front skid plate: Painted Satin Alloy
- Wheels: 18-inch alloys in a unique design with accent colour and machined face
- Fender feature: Painted body-colour surround, moulded black inner bezel, High Chrome spear
- Beltline Moulding: High Chrome
- Exterior rear-view mirrors: Integrated LED directional indicator
- Rear skid plate: Painted Satin Alloy
- Lower bumper garnish inserts: High Chrome

Wheels

The new Territory SUV comes with a selection of new locally developed wheel designs.
The entry-level TX comes fitted with rugged 17-inch alloy wheels in a five-spoke design while the mid-series TS is fitted with 18-inch painted and machined-faced alloy wheels in a five-split-spoke design.
The top-of-the-range Titanium wears 18-inch alloy wheels in a five twin-spoke style. Featuring a machined and painted finish these wheels have a "wet" look as part of new Territory's kinetic design, giving the impression of movement even when stationary.

Exterior Paint finishes

The following exterior paint finishes will be available for the new Territory range.
- Solid
- Winter White
- Metallic
- Lightning Strike (silver)
- Chill (silver-gold)
- Smoke (dark silver)
- Havana (warm mocha)
- Seduce (red)
- Vanish (blue-black)
- Edge (gun-metal grey)
- Silhouette (black)

Summary of Exterior Design Features: New Ford Territory

New front-end design
New projector headlights
New upper grille
New lower grille
New front bumper
New lower chin skid plate
LED (Light-Emitting Diode) position lamps (Titanium); round fog lamps (TS)
New bonnet design
New front guard flute design
New lower door cladding design
New C-pillar design
New rear-most side glass design
New rear three-quarter sheet metal pressings
New tail lamp design
New rear lift-gate appliqué design
New rear bumper design
New rear lower skid plate design
New rear lower valence panel design
New chrome accents on rear valence (Titanium)

THE NEW FORD TERRITORY: INTERIOR DESIGN

"The interior of the new Ford Territory is sophisticated and sporty and builds on the model's famed functionality and comfort."

- Scott Ferrier, Design Manager - Passenger Car Interiors

The Ford Australia design team responsible for the new Territory's interior has worked to build on the model's famed functionality and attractive cabin. New Territory's five- or seven-seat flexibility, user-friendly technology and driver-oriented cockpit provide the ideal environment for today's modern family.

Melbourne-based Scott Ferrier, Ford Asia Pacific and Africa's Design Manager for passenger car interiors, said it was vital to maintain familiarity when developing new Territory's interior.

"When we first designed the Territory our customers hailed the vehicle's functionality, spaciousness, and design," he said.
"Territory is a very successful model for Ford. We had to enhance it with respect to its many existing owners, all of whom are essential to the model's continued success.

"Hence, there are several aspects to the new Territory's interior that identify with the original model.

"Drivers will find the positioning of the new Territory's controls both familiar and easy to use. The layout of the panel's instrument cluster and central LED screen, the centre console, button controls and steering column-mounted stalk controls are stylish and logical."

Instrument Panel (IP), Steering Wheel and All-new 8-inch Touch Screen

The new Territory's fundamental interior architecture remains unchanged and starts with its seven-seat "theatre-style" seating layout (standard fitment on Titanium and TS, optional at extra cost on TX).

Each of the three variants - TX, TS and Titanium - receives unique cabin treatments taken from new Territory's kinetic design DNA.

Customers will instantly feel at home with the clearly visible Ford design language obvious in the new Territory's enhanced interior space.

Headlining the list of enhancements are the new instrument panel (IP), centre console, and four-spoke steering wheel, all of which share their design origins from the current-model FG Falcon sedan. The design of their push-button controls and elegant layout add to the interior's up-to-date feel.

Behind the new four-spoke steering wheel, the new instrument panel's easy-to-read gauge cluster with centrally mounted LED screen is elegant and effective. New, round air vents are located at each end of the new instrument panel. These not only enhance the look of the cabin but also provide efficient cooling and heating.

The new Territory's Interior Command Centre (ICC) - which is located at the centre of the instrument panel - is also familiar from the FG Falcon but it arrives in the new Territory with a special addition. In an Australian Ford-first, the new Territory will be available with Ford's advanced eight-inch colour touch screen - a technology milestone for an Australian-built Ford vehicle. This stylish and simple-to-use feature will be fitted to the Territory TS and Titanium models as standard equipment. The Territory TX will be fitted with a 5.8-inch monochromatic display screen.

This signature touch-screen feature is mounted at the top of the instrument panel's ICC and within easy view and reach for both the driver and front passenger. The sleek-looking unit controls functions such as Territory's audio system, telephone and climate controls.

Scott Ferrier: "The new colour touch screen is very easy to operate from both front seats and we worked hard to ensure it is suitably recessed to shield it from direct sunlight."

At the base of the ICC and located just ahead of the transmission gear shifter is another all-new feature. A stylish tambour door conceals a deeply recessed storage bin with ample room for mobile telephones, CDs, iPods or small cameras. It also offers dedicated storage for a tissue box and has an integrated pen holder and a 12-volt accessory outlet.

This storage unit is a clever addition to Territory's famed functionality and packaging. The roller-action tambour door has been carefully developed to provide a smooth and damped action reminiscent of those found in more expensive European cars. It has also been sculpted as part of the new Territory's centre console, the comfortable design of which will also be familiar to Ford drivers.

The centre console now comes with recessed cup holders for better stowage and their rubber surrounds offer increased support. They are also located well clear of the handbrake and transmission shifter.

Another key aspect of the new Territory's interior design is the structural wrap-around for the centre console and the satin spears. These emphasise strength and are one of the many kinetic design touches that match Territory's interior with its exterior.

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It seems the the Titanium doesn't come with power adjustable pedals?
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I will wait until I see one in the flesh. The interior looks good though!

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I want one.. I want one... Turbo Diesel AWD for me.

I wonder what sort of colours will be available. Hope there's at least a few brighter colours (including a nice Blue) and not just a range of boring dark tones.

I really hope this new model sells really well and helps Ford Australia reclaim some market share..
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I wonder what sort of colours will be available. Hope there's at least a few brighter colours (including a nice Blue) and not just a range of boring dark tones.
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Thanks for that info block58. My apologies. I didn't realise they were up on the site already.

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Sorry, but those colours are a bit of a yawn fest.
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Smoke is one of the best in that color range - what ever happened to the bright orange they had on the concept Territory?

Blood Orange I think it was called. They need a hero color for the range.



They also need these tail lights.
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From a Drive article. The 1/4 panels and bonnet are hardly 70% of the car's sheetmetal, so what else has been changed??
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From a Drive article. The 1/4 panels and bonnet are hardly 70% of the car's sheetmetal, so what else has been changed??

Front guards, and even though not actually metal i assume they mean the front and rear bars.
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Mitsubishi claim 8.4l/100km consumption in a manual Pajero 3.2 DI-D, that's with 147kw and 441nm from a 4 cylinder diesel. The Paj weighs 2300 odd kgs.

I'd expect sub 8l/100km from the Territory TD if indeed it does get 140kw/440nm output. From memory my TTG tipped the scales at 2100kgs which is 300kgs lighter than the Paj.

Extra Urban cycle should see low/mid 7's/100km at 90/100kmh provided Ford haven't stuffed overall gearing.
yeah and you can hear the Pajero coming from a block away. Bitsamissen need to quiten that sucker down, test drove one recently and sounded like some one was about to throw a fist full of rocker arms through the firewall, hopefully the terri will be a bit more refined than that.
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In regards to the colours...this car is for soccer mums and classic families with a dog and 2.4 kids, not boy racers. It doesn't necessarily need 'look at me' colours like an XR6 or GT. Look at Toyota's success in selling everything in white and grey...thats the type of person the Terri is aimed at.

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