Is it a ute or a truck?

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by Rallye Sport

To me a ute is based on the layout and driving dynamics of a passenger car with a load capacity of roughly 1 ton.

to me a ute is a tray combined into the cab of a car, a pickup is a separate bed or tray on a car chassis (not combined). A truck is a heavier chassis.

oops, that means we should call the Falcon Ute a pickup...
...but it's actual name is "Falcon Ute", so both still are correct.

[Venomous1]

Is it Australia or Usa? So my answer is always Ute.

[Paull]

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

Ute.

But truck it will be...cos the hottie in the ad says so.

I guess that means we are now going to get, just because..

Hood
Trunk
Fender
Gas
Tire

Please no!

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

Ute.

But truck it will be...cos the hottie in the ad says so.

I guess that means we are now going to get, just because..

Hood
Trunk
Fender
Gas
Tire

If you think those are bad, I was working with someone recently that said 'aloomonom', instead of aluminium. I almost lost it, it was the first time had ever heard that word said it real life. Usually only hear it on American TV shows.

[sly_ba]

Can't believe there is even any doubt about it...

We live in australia... Despite America's best efforts to impose itself upon us, and the rest of the world, it is a ute. A "truck's" predominant purpose is to transport cargo and requires an endorsed licence. A vehicle which was manufactured to be a compromise between cargo and passenger duties remains a utility.

[383hq]

They're called trucks in the USA to avoid paying federal taxes/excises associated with fuel consumption.

Nice loop hole.

another nice loop hole (of times past) the old mustangs use to lean right out and not accelerate in 4th gear 25mph / WOT to get past the drive by noise testing.

Given the VW scenario, I should probably precede the above sentence with "alledgedly"

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by sly_ba

Can't believe there is even any doubt about it...

We live in australia... Despite America's best efforts to impose itself upon us, and the rest of the world, it is a ute. A "truck's" predominant purpose is to transport cargo and requires an endorsed licence. A vehicle which was manufactured to be a compromise between cargo and passenger duties remains a utility.

So in Australia, an F250 is a ute and an F350 is a truck just because the rear overload springs allow it to carry extra payload, requiring a truck license in Australia? If you used the same definition in America, an F350 dually would be a ute until your trailer weighs over 20,000 lbs, then you need a CDL. So at that point, you would call it a truck. But if your trailer weighed only 19,999 lb, you can only call it a ute.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Hilux, Ranger, F trucks etc are trucks, not ute's, a ute is a car style vehicle with a ute tub on the back.

I have a ute and it drives nothing like the 4x4 trucks do, I drive a hilux for work and they are definitely not a ute.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by sly_ba

A "truck's" predominant purpose is to transport cargo and requires an endorsed licence. A vehicle which was manufactured to be a compromise between cargo and passenger duties remains a utility.

Weird I thought Ute's predominant purpose it to transport loads as well so by your definition a ute is a truck.

Further by your definition a 4.5 tonne canter truck is a ute because you can drive it on a car license.

[Mercury Bullet]

Truck...
Well a quarter of one.

[XP6]

Hey lets throw the names Lorry and Tractor in the mix.

[ronwest]

Just got back from a few days away and on the way home we called in on some people we know who own a cattle property.
We were talking about grandkids and he was saying that his grand daughter was giving him a hand to lift some stuff off the "tilley". Haven't heard the term for years but another for the mix.

Also, I wonder if these "truck" drivers feel obliged to "keep left" when instructed?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vic...cc2c7f971f88e1


No?
Oh...

edit: sorry link takes you to a subscription page but I'm sure we've all seen "trucks keep left" type signs.

[Vesper Martini]

Don't see any mention of Hilux or Ranger on this definition of a Ute:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ute_(vehicle)

[ronwest]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

Don't see any mention of Hilux or Ranger on this definition of a Ute:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ute_(vehicle)

Equally " Pickup trucks, called utes in Australia and New Zealand, are common in North America..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck

Seriously, if it's on the internet it must be true...

edit: ....and furthermore, Your Honour, may I submit as further evidence this list of "Pickup Trucks" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pickup_trucks which the internet (wiki) has already defined as "utes" in oz an nz.
M'lud we know that without a shadow of doubt the internet is always correct.
The defence rests...

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by ronwest

Just got back from a few days away and on the way home we called in on some people we know who own a cattle property.
We were talking about grandkids and he was saying that his grand daughter was giving him a hand to lift some stuff off the "tilley". Haven't heard the term for years but another for the mix.

Also, I wonder if these "truck" drivers feel obliged to "keep left" when instructed?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vic...cc2c7f971f88e1


No?
Oh...

edit: sorry link takes you to a subscription page but I'm sure we've all seen "trucks keep left" type signs.

If you knew anything about road rules then you would be aware that the signs only apply to trucks over 4.5 tonnes GVM. Plenty of trucks are under 4.5 tonnes GVM.

[ronwest]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

If you knew anything about road rules then you would be aware that the signs only apply to trucks over 4.5 tonnes GVM. Plenty of trucks are under 4.5 tonnes GVM.

If you knew anything about irony you'd be aware that there was 4.5 kgs worth right there.

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

Ute.

But truck it will be...cos the hottie in the ad says so.

I guess that means we are now going to get, just because..

Hood
Trunk
Fender
Gas
Tire

And to ensure we don't confuse gas with LPG, we'll be referring to it now as propane.

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by Ben73

If you think those are bad, I was working with someone recently that said 'aloomonom', instead of aluminium. I almost lost it, it was the first time had ever heard that word said it real life. Usually only hear it on American TV shows.

I had an argument with my three-year-old daughter a couple of years back because she kept calling the last letter of the alphabet "zee". It took her to go to school this year before she conceded it was "zed". Bloody Sesame Street!

[ute83]

Twenty years ago we were trading in our GQ Patrol the salesman looked over the vehicle and said " nice truck". The missus and I looked at each other and didn't have to say anything.

[rattusbaggus1]

Ok I'll have another go at this. A UTILITY is a passenger car, Falcon, Valiant, Morris Minor etc, to the BACK OF THE FRONT SEAT. Types such as Ranger and Hi-Lux etc are working vehicles and are lorries (British) or trucks (Yankee). Why do us Brits call the Trunk (Yankee) the Boot when the 'Boot' is the storage space under the drivers seat behind their boots.

[FPV-F6-310FPV]

Ute or Pickup for me, but not a truck...