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22-09-2015, 10:19 PM | #31 | ||
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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/can...ist=beforebell
Interesting the comment about VAG 'accounting and governance risk' > 80% of companies in Western Europe. It's an absolute leader in size and technology, surely this is not so? Article asks questions of its corporate culture, I wonder how that fits in with the way VAG dealt with Australian DSG/twincharger/stalling issues? Disclosure: I quite like their restrained styling, packaging, marketing and good selection of product throughout the mainstream and niches.
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22-09-2015, 11:02 PM | #32 | ||
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May as well rename the company Hindenburg...
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22-09-2015, 11:35 PM | #33 | ||
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Just reading another article , Skoda and Audi are getting a mention now, i suppose now every single car they have something to do with will be tested now ?
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23-09-2015, 06:35 AM | #34 | ||
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23-09-2015, 07:00 AM | #35 | ||
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What about trucks, trains and everything else that runs on diesel????
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And don't forget how much energy and products that go into making petrol.
Diesel is a low refined fuel, where as petrol is highly refined. Sure a Prius is good until you look at what went into making it, petrol may have less emissions but causes more in the making than diesel.
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http://www.afr.com/it-pro/volkswagen...0150922-gjsptg
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I don't know why Skoda Australia salesmen keep on associating with VW and "German technology" in their sales push, I'd be trying to dissociate like hell and emphasising the qualities of the Czech brand that Australians haven't yet cottoned onto. Ironically, VW started with a plagiarised Czech design for which they had to pay compensation after the war. That seemed to set a pattern of corporate behaviour .... It will be interesting to see whether Seat, Audi and Skoda have been forced to participate in this little deceit. I suspect not in the case of Seat and Skoda as they aren't in the North American market. Audi is though.
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I remember when the Golf first came out in the 1970s seeing a journo interviewing a VW rep on TV and the VW guy went on about how this FWD car with transverse engine was a world first, invented by VW etc, wilfully ignoring the BMC Mini, which started it all about 15 years earlier. Quote:
I was in the local VW/Skoda yard yesterday helping my daughter look at cars and we found a Golf and Octavia parked alongside each other. It's hard to believe they're supposed to be on the same standard platform. The Octavia simply walks all over the Golf in terms of size, space and practicality. I guess single people go for the Golf as a good drive - but Octavia is that too. I wouldn't touch a VW with a long pole, especially after that nasty little show avoiding the DSG issue. That was a candidate for the Arthur Daley Motors award.
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What I wonder is who was behind the initial real world tests in the first place, and who instigated and funded them. Would not be surprised if it was another automotive competitor based in.....the USA????
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In order to make deisel, they have to refine the petrol more, otherwise you would have to pay 6 times more for your deisel, if they couldnt sell the petrol and other stuff. |
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23-09-2015, 11:14 AM | #43 | ||
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This is going to be a massive boost toward petrol hybrid, and probably more so electric. (To which VAG should do quite well if you read their news.) Maybe a watershed moment, as someone on a car advice comment said:
"...the reality is that the emission requirement rate is exceeding the rate at which technological advancements in engine management can keep up." I reckon I've come a full about-face on the issue this year, to the extent that the most exciting auto thing I'm dreaming of is an inexpensive and good home solar battery technology to augment my rooftop setup and end grid reliance; then a desirable, fun and inexpensive EV to be produced. Zero emissions, zero paying the fuel station for commuting each week. Win win. Zero power bills too. Win win win.
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They should get a free-pass to continue to operate for some time, as they are essential? If you look at what commercial ships burn, and the emissions in very busy shipping lanes, it makes a mockery of all the clean air legislation.
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DPF on its own seems to be a problem, but DPF with SCR seems to be a much better solution, the DPF doesn't clog up as quick and they make more power/torque. |
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Whilst I don't drink a lot of Coke myself, that's still a what the?! Coke comes from oil.. that's comforting!
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With some of the comments you see on here, it had me wondering, but i will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are joking. You dont think the dark brown color of coke comes from food additives do you. After all its no coincidence that petrol cans and coke cans are both colored red, its US legislation that anything carrying gasoline products is sold in a red colored container.
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they could power truck and trains and buses by an alternative method , but how much will it cost, and not just for the transport operators, but for the recipient that gets the bill at the end who receives the goods and services ? |
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Yeah bingo Mik, I was thinking of that report. The amount of hypocrisy regarding emissions and climate does my head in. "Developed world, you can't! China, even though you are the world's workshop: Go For It! Cars, you are very naughty. Ships, what a fine way to recycle all that sump oil, keep burning it! Australia, you should be very guilty, there's 23 million of you and 1.5% of blah blah blah. Chindia - we don't mind if you pollute. Brazil, keep on truckin' burning those rainforests. Onya Indonesia, the Singaporeans don't need to see or breathe.... Etc..."
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Trucks are the biggest issue. Trains and trams have been powered by electricity to various degrees for some 130 years and those powered by diesel are a small component in the overall picture. Electric powering of buses (either wired or autonomous) is now well underway with extensive conversion of urban fleets to come in the next decade.
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SCR neutralises the NOx and DPF captures the particulate matter.
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Serves them right I say, I hope the Volkswagen group are hit with the full 20 odd billion fine, it will teach them and other automakers not to be dirty misleading cheats.
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I wonder how they did it
Not like a button on the dash "emissions test " So each time the car is running, with hand brake on and no person detected in drivers seat and the computer goes "oh, this could be an emissions test, better implement reduced injection rate and filter" Would be interesting to know Earlier, aka crude distillation, (a catalyst is added to complete the chain (like dna strand) to get more out of it) diesel is taken out at a relatively early stage, the higher the octane = more processing (then it becomes dry and lubricant additives need to be added). Diesel is much "cleaner" than days of old and with reduced sulpher. My simple understanding
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Just listening to the ABC news, the CEO of VW has quit, he didn't know about the tricky emissions software he says, but took. responsibility for it anyway.
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It's interesting though that Skoda stopped it in 2013. Company ethics finally overcame orders from above?
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