If only Ford had ...

[XR Martin]

My EL roof lining hasnt sagged, nor has my ED. HTH

[Sprint XR8]

[Dr Smith]

There is one thing I hope Ford Australia would consider doing and that is set up a site where we can all view every design concept drawing, prototype build, model variation etc. which never made it into production however was created as part of product development or concept work during the Falcon's lifetime. Eg I would love to have seen any coupe Falcon work for the B series, or a station wagon image of FG, Fairlane, etc...

[GTLEGEND]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

There is one thing I hope Ford Australia would consider doing and that is set up a site where we can all view every design concept drawing, prototype build, model variation etc. which never made it into production however was created as part of product development or concept work during the Falcon's lifetime. Eg I would love to have seen any coupe Falcon work for the B series, or a station wagon image of FG, Fairlane, etc...

I wonder if another Falcon after FG X was ever even thought of? Did the idea even make it to paper as a design sketch or anyting, or was the project killed way before this? Would love to know and see a basic design if it existed!!

[HO 3]

Originally Posted by GTLEGEND

I wonder if another Falcon after FG X was ever even thought of? Did the idea even make it to paper as a design sketch or anyting, or was the project killed way before this? Would love to know and see a basic design if it existed!!

I would go so far as to say when local Ford manufacturing has wound up we will
see some design renders of a stillborn FGX GT that never made it to production.

Cheers Mick

[Myluckyday]

Originally Posted by CoupeXB

image

CoupeXB ... I take some umbrage with your implication.

You don't know me.

My dad worked for Ford.

I've owned a Falcon these past 14 odd years ... just bought another.

I feel confident to put my young family into a Ford product knowing that it will take care of us in return.


If you think my OP premise is not valid then please explain why rather then post a graphic image as you have.

Back to you ...
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[Myluckyday]

Originally Posted by newi

...of fixed known issues such as - transmission heat exchangers and suspension bushes.

Something that was a known issue in a vehicle released in 2003 should not be still an issue in a vehicle 10+ years later.

The transmission cooler is also one of my major concerns ... because I've read of so many horror stories.

Mine is factory, I don't tow ... but the issue sits, uncomfortable, in the back of my mind.
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[ken1939]

Originally Posted by brismike

If only Ford had built the BA Falcon onwards in LHD and exported it to the USA.

So TRUE!

[MethodX]

Had some less bogany "fans"

[Bill M]

Originally Posted by Myluckyday

CoupeXB ... I take some umbrage with your implication.

You don't know me.

My dad worked for Ford.

I've owned a Falcon these past 14 odd years ... just bought another.

I feel confident to put my young family into a Ford product knowing that it will take care of us in return.


If you think my OP premise is not valid then please explain why rather then post a graphic image as you have.

Back to you ...
.

It made me laugh, I don't think it was intended to offend as there are some very good observations in this thread. I doubt it is aimed at you personally.
Bill

[CoupeKing]

Beefed up the 302 in the John Goss Special's, and also throw in four wheel disc brakes. Not only would it sound wicked, but it would probably pull more coin than a Cobra.

[Vesper Martini]

Built a factory Eco LPI Territory 5 seater back in 2004.
with Proper marketing and the use of the government's rebate at the time they could have doubled the sales, before other manufacturers were able to get into the SUV boom.


If this were developed nearly every Taxi in Melbourne would be a Territory. perhaps being purpose built.
It could have kept Broadmeadows going

[Syndrome]

If only Ford had not openly undermined it's Australian operation........

[superyob]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Had some less bogany "fans"

Hey, I resent that allegation!! I am not 'bogany'. Just because my moccasins match my mullet is no reason to hurt my feelings...

[superyob]

Originally Posted by Myluckyday

CoupeXB ... I take some umbrage with your implication.

You don't know me.

My dad worked for Ford.

I've owned a Falcon these past 14 odd years ... just bought another.

I feel confident to put my young family into a Ford product knowing that it will take care of us in return.


If you think my OP premise is not valid then please explain why rather then post a graphic image as you have.

Back to you ...
.

Is Ford discussion. Is good...

[superyob]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Beefed up the 302 in the John Goss Special's, and also throw in four wheel disc brakes. Not only would it sound wicked, but it would probably pull more coin than a Cobra.

This has always been a mystery to me. Why only a 302C???? Ford should have put a 4V 351 in it...

[Vesper Martini]

From what I've read they were only a splash of paint and some bolt on options to boost lagging sales.

[Myluckyday]

Originally Posted by superyob

Is Ford discussion. Is good...

Thanks Don ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDMic2LIPN8

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by superyob

This has always been a mystery to me. Why only a 302C???? Ford should have put a 4V 351 in it...

From my understanding they had surplus 302 blocks lying around (Coup Shells also?) and that's what kicked that project off. But yeah, putting his name on it you'd think it would have a little more to do with racing attached to them. With a worked 302, it would have snuck under the radar of that dip &^%$ journalist that caused the Phase 4 to be axed. Still a great car though. I'd love one in each colour even if they were released with 250's.

[minheim]

Diesel for the Falcon range and earlier for the Territory;
Produced the Ranger in Australia;
Kept the Factory Works race team in the 1970s and beyond;
No powershift transmission in the Focus; and
Advertised better.

[XWGT]

Had not decided that people had to pay for a premium model Territory to get colour coded bumpers..........

[Myluckyday]

Originally Posted by minheim

Diesel for the Falcon range and earlier for the Territory;
Produced the Ranger in Australia;
Kept the Factory Works race team in the 1970s and beyond;
No powershift transmission in the Focus; and
Advertised better.

Why do you think that there was not a decent 'Diesel' option for the Falcon?

Did Holden ever have one? Not that I recall.

There must have been a reason.

If there was a Falcon Diesel ... would it have sold in sufficient numbers to make it commercially viable?
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[Grunter]

...listened to their FoA exec team back in the mid 2000's.
...used Holden's market/advert. department
...built a FG-X 5.0 S/C Super Pursuit with all the options that were available in the GT-P (including the seats!).
...put Jim's GT into production

[Wretched]

had concentrated on quality control and using better materials. There is no excuse for the lack of quality in the product.

Better understood their customer base instead of concentrating on one particular demographic.

[STINKY NINJA]

Used better plastic for the rear demister button and cruise buttons on my eb,just breaks my heart that one,absolutely tears at my heart strings,i can let everything else slip...
;)

[minheim]

Originally Posted by Myluckyday

Why do you think that there was not a decent 'Diesel' option for the Falcon?

Did Holden ever have one? Not that I recall.

There must have been a reason.

If there was a Falcon Diesel ... would it have sold in sufficient numbers to make it commercially viable?
.

My understanding is they stayed with LPG rather than diesel for the falcon as the preferred economy option. I think a diesel option could have been a winner especially with the ute and wagon. Who knows it might have kept the wagon in production longer and avoided the failed exercise with the ecoboost falcon which never took off. Maybe the decision to stay with the inline 6 when government funding was offered to update it for emission standards rather than importing a v6 option was also a factor; so that inline 6 sales weren't cannibalised. There was a period when diesels were really popular and LGP has had a poor public image. I say this despite having owned two LPG falcons in the past.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by minheim

I think a diesel option could have been a winner especially with the ute and wagon. Who knows it might have kept the wagon in production longer and avoided the failed exercise with the ecoboost falcon which never took off.

I wonder how many of the public even knew the Ecoboost existed ... I'm sure if it had been brought out substantially earlier, when people were still going to dealers to look at Falcons, it may have gained some traction. The 3.0V6 Commodore cops a lot of flack, but there's more than just a few on the road....

I agree, diesel should have found its way into Falcon. It would have probably been an easier sell in a big car than a four cylinder. Diesel seems to sell well to fleets, and is far better accepted in the private market than LPG. And an FG wagon ... Ford try to save a buck and flog a superseded product, then wonder why noone's falling for it.

[INJECTED_250]

If only ford had built a car people wanted to buy.


Yep thats pretty much it

[CyberWasp]

If only Ford had of made more comfortable seats in the 70's and 80's to make out in. There would have been a population explosion big enough to make the Australian Car Market big enough to justify staying here and producing more cars.

[2011G6E]

In general?
* Diesel Falcon...back around the time they became extremely popular in passenger cars, early 2000's. It's not like they didn't have access to very good diesels in other Fords.
* The four cylinder Falcon...should have been earlier, should have been hammered mercilessly in the media and pushed...hard...by marketing.

Specifically? Some niggles which still stick in my mind about the near-top-of-the-line G6E we owned...
* No soft-return on the roof grab handles...they slammed shut like a cheap Korean hatchback. Scratch that...even cheap Korean hatchbacks have soft return ones.
* No soft close on the glovebox lid or center console lid...just slammed shut with plastic clatter. Come on Ford...it's supposed to be a luxury model.
* The name...It was tiring having to explain exactly what it was you owned when you said "G6E"...when they already had a perfectly good model name level designation with Falcon, followed by Fairmont, followed by Fairmont Ghia. People knew what they were, even non-Ford people.

Prices could use some attention too.
Go price a Ranger in a desirable build like a twin cab diesel auto...and then if you can be a bit badge blind go look at what else you can get for much much less money from other makers.

I really really want the Mustang to be a success...but I wonder how many sales they are losing by telling potential customers to just plonk down a deposit on a car they've never seen, sat in, or test driven just on the badge alone...and then wait a year or so to take delivery. Plenty of people I have talked to have been turned off the Mustang because of this reason...we were. People are used to walking in, test driving something, and taking delivery soon after...not waiting for a year. And yes yes yes, there might be some cancelled orders sitting around, there might be some floor models, but it will take a long long time to get people in this country used to not getting a common model (unless they foolishly try to go the posh "it's a limited-availability specialty car unlike what it is in the USA" route...most people know the Mustang is "just another common car" in the states and nothing exotic) soon after the sign on the dotted line.
Hopefully Ford imports them in big numbers in a wide range of model level that there will be enough around in the yards to give buyers a decent choice and reasonable delivery time.