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29-01-2014, 05:24 PM | #31 | ||
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Looks good but so far no Diesel or MPS so I wouldn't buy one, also I don't know about you guys but that screen looks like a cheap aftermarket add-on:
If it was actually INSIDE the dash that would have looked much nicer. All these people "I'd rather spend $1K more and buy a Falcon" well buy one, be one of the other 700 odd people. |
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29-01-2014, 06:15 PM | #32 | ||
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Not without the performance to go with the $38k. I'm talking MPS levels here.
May eat into Focus Titanium sales quite a bit if they even sell many of them. |
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The 6 monthly part has been extended to 12 months, but the remains at 10,000km intervals.
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29-01-2014, 06:26 PM | #34 | ||
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Regarding gizmos. We have the top of the range 6 MPS and BF2 GHIA at home, both 2007 models (have had both for 5+ years now) the GHIA has substantially more features than the Mazda. I can list 30 items the Ford has the Mazda misses out on. Build quality is where the Mazda kills Ford.
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29-01-2014, 06:45 PM | #35 | |||
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I do know what you mean, but I don't mind it too much. Reduces the bulk of the centre stack a bit at least... |
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29-01-2014, 07:08 PM | #36 | ||
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29-01-2014, 07:17 PM | #37 | ||
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For that price you could get an Audi A3 Attraction...
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29-01-2014, 07:19 PM | #38 | ||
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Won't be surprised when the Interior screen actually becomes a tablet, and the dash acts as a dock, and all the users (drivers) settings are stored on the tablet. That way, seat, wheel, climate, radio etc as all automatically change when its docked.
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29-01-2014, 10:05 PM | #39 | ||
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Would you pay $37, 325 for a Falcon XT?
The Mazda looks like better value to me. |
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29-01-2014, 10:29 PM | #40 | ||
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They probably wont sell many top spec models at that price but no harm in testing the waters.
As for the Falcon you can pick up a G6 for 33k. |
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29-01-2014, 10:38 PM | #41 | ||
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My wife had an SP 23 - did 100,000kms - never in for any warranty claims.
She has now done 70,000kms in her SP25 - never any warranty claims. She doesn't know or care how fast it accelerates ... she cares about peace of mind in owning and driving a reliable comfortable car. That's why Mazda 3 has been one of the best selling cars on the Australian market for some time. I had a BF F6 and an FG F6 - bang for buck yes! Build quality - what build quality? Countless times back for warranty claims (mostly not fixed). Check out the "What problems have you had with your BF/FG" sub-forums. Currently 883 posts in BF and 6,462 in FG! That's why myself and others buy Mazda 3. |
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29-01-2014, 10:43 PM | #42 | ||
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Mazda 3's that have mismatched bumpers?
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29-01-2014, 10:50 PM | #43 | ||
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Would I pay that much? I am not sure I would but it depends on what is on offer for those $$ and what the competitors offer, what I want and if I do like the car.
I paid something similar for my Focus with a lot less features. In any case the new 3 looks like a decent car, hopefully they make a MPS version though.
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29-01-2014, 10:59 PM | #44 | ||
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Didnt Mazda have big issues with the 2.3?
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29-01-2014, 11:21 PM | #45 | ||
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I think the Maxx model is the hero here. Has a few luxuries and alloys as a deal sweetener without digging deeper for a SP25 or Astina. I mean what % of people would buy a
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30-01-2014, 12:09 AM | #46 | ||
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If, they brought back the RX7....
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30-01-2014, 08:34 AM | #47 | ||
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My dad has a mazda 3 diesel with 6 speed manual and it drives wonderfully on and off boost feels refined, fast, hi-tech and super comfortable in the front seat, and further more with traction control off will gladly spin the single-pegger when it hits boost. So to answer the above question if they had a diesel model l would gladly buy one or an MPS.
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30-01-2014, 09:02 AM | #48 | ||
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Dont think there will be a soot chucker version.
Petrol version is down to 5.7l/100km so there isnt really any point.
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30-01-2014, 09:10 AM | #50 | |||
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30-01-2014, 09:19 AM | #51 | ||
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Why would you be foolish to by one, apart from the BK models torque steer (not sure if it was fixed in the BL model and a little isnt bad in my eyes).
I looked at one (Amongst other) before i chose my current car. As for the 38k, paid not much more than that for my car.
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30-01-2014, 10:20 AM | #52 | ||
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Mazda 3 MPS can make fairly big power with mods as well such as exhaust and bigger turbo, a few of the MPS3 boys have 220-250KW at the front wheels as the box is quite strong.
They're happy they can get to roughly the same power figures as the XR5 Turbo boys with its bigger engine |
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30-01-2014, 10:26 AM | #53 | ||
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Has their engines started rattling or smoking yet?
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30-01-2014, 12:35 PM | #54 | ||
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I laugh at the people saying 'all people want is gizmos'. Guess what, most of the small cars today are pretty similar. Within reason, if you're not a car person, there is little difference between them other than looks. Of course they're going to try stock up on technology - It's what the buyer wants!
Would *I* pay $38k for a 3? Nope. Would someone who was in the market for a Mazda 3 / other premium small / mid car pay $38k for a falcon? Nope. |
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30-01-2014, 04:05 PM | #55 | |||
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< < < Falcons - especially Fairmont Ghias, used to represent excellent value for money where you could get a lot of standard kit in a big, roomy sedan. But I think Ford hasn't kept up with the explosion of gadgets and gizmos in cars over the past few years. Technology wise, they appear to have remained pretty much stagnant, and when you stand still in the technology industry, you go backwards ... rapidly.
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30-01-2014, 04:45 PM | #56 | |||
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30-01-2014, 10:41 PM | #57 | ||
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Mazda are good cars, but they don't do it for me.
No, I would definitely not pay that. They do look great though. I think a real improvement on the current model - the exterior certainly.
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30-01-2014, 10:56 PM | #58 | ||
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You'll find brand reputations are not so nicely dismissed. They are built up or down over years, sometimes decades. I'd suggest a troublesome model serious requires two or three subsequent very good cars to outlive the stigma the bad one generated.
The FG might have been in a declining market, but I'd suggest it was also still paying for the sins of the B series cars. People left Falcon and never even looked at FG. The B series experiences for them was simply enough and the market choices such, they never had to look at FG and they didn't. In the case of Mazda Australia, they started looking at strategies to improve their customer loyalty and repeat business in the 1990's, when faced with a high yen, heavily decontented cars that were less value than the models they replaced and a period during the early Ford years of some very ordinary budget model 323's and 626's that were pretty terrible compared to what went before them. They had to focus on customer satisfaction and retention to basically overcome the product and keep their dealer network afloat. Now with those efforts in place and a strong product portfolio which started with the first 6 series car in the early 2000's they are only just now starting to really reap the rewards in Australia. It took Mazda Australia, the best part of twenty years to become an overnight success in Australia. As for the top of the range Mazda 3. Mazda Australia are anticipating about 3% of buyers will go for the Astina. That says to me that the 3 GT Astina is much about flagging future technologies for more mainstream models and giving journalists something to write about, as it is about actually selling them. I also think the Astina branding might be aimed at trying to catch some older buyers who have fond memories of that brand and now later in life, have the disposable cash to buy a top range 3. We all know come mid life refresh time in the 3 much of this tech will filter down into more mainstream 3 models and become more affordable. I wouldn't be surprised at that point if a MPS model is released to take on the Halo model role too. Last edited by DanielXR8; 30-01-2014 at 11:21 PM. |
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30-01-2014, 11:40 PM | #59 | ||
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There might not be a performance-focused MPS on the horizon for the new Mazda3, but Australia is getting its own sports pack with the Kuroi kit.
It's available on every trim level from entry level Neo through Maxx, Touring, SP25, SP25 GT and the top-spec SP25 Astina on both sedan and hatch bodies across the Mazda3 line-up from an extra $2678. The Kuroi -- Japanese for 'black' -- package was developed by the same team that created Mazda's 'Kodo' design language. It adds brilliant black styling features in the form of 18-inch alloy wheels, front and rear under spoilers, side skirts, and side mirror caps. All the features can also be added separately by any Mazda dealer -- which could see Neo buyers at the very least opting for the alloy wheels to replace the car's standard steel ones. Mazda says prices fluctuate on the Neo, Maxx and Touring trim levels due to changes in wheel size and the addition of a rear lip spoiler that is not part of the pack and controlled by the dealer. "The customer will need to upgrade to 18-inch tyres, purchase the rear lip spoiler (as it’s not part of the sports pack) and then it would need to be painted. These variables are controlled by the dealer and not us," Mazda Australia spokesman Tony Mee says. However Mazda is able to confirm prices for the individual features on the SP25, SP25GT and SP25 Astina trim levels: Sedan variants 18-inch alloy wheels $1060 Door mirror caps $68 Front under spoiler $473 Side under spoiler $544 Rear under spoiler $533 Total: $2,678 Hatch variants 18-inch alloy wheels $1060 Door mirror caps $68 Front under spoiler $473 Side under spoiler $544 Rear under spoiler $596 Total: $2,741 http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and...30?origin=hpc2
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