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Old 02-12-2008, 12:15 PM   #31
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If you are 100% clean, do legal blockies until they get bored.

When I was younger I found I was being pulled over quite frequently and asked if I had anything to declare, accompanied by peering with torches etc.

I found it a fun party trick, I would see a police car and say to my mates: "Watch this ... I can pull over a police car"

I found out years later there was a car of similar description to mine moving drugs around the area late at night.

I am so glad I kept myself 100% legal !!
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Old 02-12-2008, 12:45 PM   #32
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Do what LTD on 20's said.

Record everything. If they are hassling you, diary entries and photo's will be what you need. Take it to the Station Commander, then if no joy call the Ombusdsmans office in your state.
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Can I contest it??

I have wondered how if police targeted people because of race or religion it would be discrimination but it is okay to target someone because of age??

We often hear about "oppressed minorities" but at the risk of sounding melodramatic in our ageing country the young minority is often targeted.
It's called Lawful Discrimination and its perfectly acceptable
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If at the time of runnig a check on your car, if the officer dosent correlate the time when the car was stolen to the time when the intel was generated.....bad luck....the target has landed on you.

Do do the current affair trick and video / audio tape the officer.
That is unless you want more hassles. SERIOUSLY DO NOT DO THIS.

Approach your Local Area Command and talk with the liason officer and mention, all be it in a polite and friendly manner, the attention you seem to be grabbing, and how the recent theft of your car may have something to do with this.

Not wanting to stero-type or annoy anyone, but when you make contact make sure you are suitably dressed. Thongs, boardies, hoodies...nope, no way!

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Good suggestions above. Mine would be simpler.

If P plates are required on the car, make sure you and/or your significant other ensure that they are actually on the car before driving off, every time.
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I'M SUSPECTING THERE IS A REASON FOR THIS . . cops have better things to do than just sit there waiting till you do something wrong .
if you are an innocent victim i suggest maybe taping them pulling you up all the time and see a legal adviser .
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Good suggestions above. Mine would be simpler.

If P plates are required on the car, make sure you and/or your significant other ensure that they are actually on the car before driving off, every time.
don't flaunt logic infront of P platers, it makes them cry!
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Good suggestions above. Mine would be simpler.

If P plates are required on the car, make sure you and/or your significant other ensure that they are actually on the car before driving off, every time.
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don't flaunt logic infront of P platers, it makes them cry!
Do you inspect your vehicle to ensure it's roadworthy before laving somewhere EVERYTIME? Of course not.

What if it fell off while the car is moving? Which is a higher possibility then when it's stationary due to the forces acting on the car while it's moving.

Where is your logic in that? :

A lot of unhelpful, ungrateful hypocrites in here as usual I see from page 1.

To Sleekism, whilst I don't agree about such a huge fine for such a small offence (Larger then going 9KM over the limit according to VicRoads) I can't say it's entirely the fault of those police officers. Most of them are decent enough, but you can only do so much when you have your management saying do this, or get your bum kicked! Most officers having to meet quotas etc.

May as well try writing a letter as the worst that will happen is you still have to pay it.
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Good suggestions above. Mine would be simpler.

If P plates are required on the car, make sure you and/or your significant other ensure that they are actually on the car before driving off, every time.
What if they fly off without you realising whilst driving, which can and does happen?
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These type of threads humor me. Maybe you should contact amnesty international.
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For the past month cops have been sitting down the road from my house and when me or my mrs drives past they flick on their lights with the result being I'm always pulled over in front of my home. Same story every time they check our licence RBT us and go on their way.

It was just annoying until the other day my mrs was driving and I was in the passnger seat coming back from up the road getting KFC and got pulled up. Unfortunately one of the p-plates had fallen off and so she copped a $200 fine. I tried to talk to the copper but he ignored me and walked off. It wasn't until I yelled out asking for his badge number that he angrily came back and gave me his name.

Now I'm eating 2-minute noodles for the next fortnight because of the cops taking my shopping budget. I know I'm not a model citizen but I believe I'm a good citizen. Both me and my mrs work hard have rented our own home since 17 and after 3 years of driving have collected only one driving offence each. Me 2.5 years ago for overtaking on double lines and my mrs 2.5 years ago for 15 kays over the limit.

The only variable is two months ago when my car was stolen and flogged around town receiving numerous reports. Surely I am not being punished for having my car stolen?
you don't have copbait number plate's do you ???
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Sleekism, could this have anything to do with it?

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11239495

Not finger pointing, just genuinely wondering if they are related?
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Geesh 2 cop threads in the pub on one day, 200% chance of more than one person being banned, awesome!

Sleekism, FPV GT makes some excellent points, contest it in court or write to the police station, No sympathy for those that can afford the fines but when you living on the edge then you need to explore all options.

NB. Liquid Nails, or screw the bastard into the panel!
i actually saw this out the front of my work, although it wasnt liquid nails, it was ACTUAL nails haha.. silly bugger had nailed his red p-plate to his hyundai accent bumper!

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What if they fly off without you realising whilst driving, which can and does happen?
thats what usually happens. i try and keep a stack in my glove box but i dont have time to go to the RTA to pick up more during business hours..
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Don't worry all you current P-platers your kids one day will be complaining because they will only be allowed to drive from 9-5 and nothing greater than 12 volts!

Every generation will think they have it tougher than the previous...
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Sleekism, could this have anything to do with it?

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11239495

Not finger pointing, just genuinely wondering if they are related?
I wasn't "involved" in the other incident. They searched one of my cars but they had no idea it was mine because it was paddock basher and so minus all identification. Unless they did a search on cream XE's which wouldn't help because there are millions.

It's annoying because my AU is my "family car". It has an exhaust and extractors but it's main duties are getting groceries, picking up family and towing trailers.

Maybe my exhaust?? There are old people on my street who like to shout at "whippersnappers" walking by and even dogs and birds :

Anyway who do I write to??? The newspaper? My MP??

If someone could give me an address to write to in Coffs Harbour area that would be tops.
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It's not rocket science securing a P-plate to a car to ensure it doesn't fly off. Also helps to keep a stack of them in the glove box if one gets nicked when you're away from the car. They used to be free from the RTA when I was on my P's.

Yes, it's the responsibility of a P plater to ensure that the plates are clearly displayed. Most of us would have had to have done it at the beginning.

To the OP, you seem to be caught up in dodgy sounding stuff more than your average person, perhaps that could be a contributing factor to your new found friends...?
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Don't worry all you current P-platers your kids one day will be complaining because they will only be allowed to drive from 9-5 and nothing greater than 12 volts!

Every generation will think they have it tougher than the previous...
with driving rules and regulations.. well we do dont we?
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Every generation will think they have it tougher than the previous...
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You have started numerous threads over the years about being "picked" on by cops,maybe you are doing something that attracts police attention?
Just out of curiosity you have only been a member since march this year, exactly what 'years' are you talking about.

Moving on...Being on your P plates is all about learning, and learning to take bullsh*t fines on the chin is unfortunately one of the modules.
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sleekism, as you have posted this in an open forum you will get all sorts of advise, here is mine.

Grow up.

Drive sensibly especially in your own street so the neighbours are not peed off.

Ensure that your P plates are affixed to your vehicle at all times and obey the road rules.

Can't get any simpler than that, in fairness you acknowledge that you are no choir boy, fair enough also dont yell at Police, don't act the tool.

It is obvious that Coffs HWP are responding to complaints, sorry for the rant but only you can fix your problem.
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Do you inspect your vehicle to ensure it's roadworthy before laving somewhere EVERYTIME? Of course not.....
I don't and would openly admit that. However if I was to be pulled over and booked for a tail light being out, I'd accept that I should have checked. It's the drivers responsibility to ensure the car is roadworthy. It's not the fault of the mate, the wife/girlfriend, the bulb that blew whilst driving, and especially not the police, but the driver of the car.

If the "cops" were supposedly stalking me, and I was a P plater, I'd be doing every check possible to ensure that I was roadworthy AND had my plates securely attached, every time.
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Anyway who do I write to??? The newspaper? My MP??

If someone could give me an address to write to in Coffs Harbour area that would be tops.
Hey sleekism. We dont know each other and have not met, AND please forgive me for this... BUT wake up you fool!

Many have given you ideas on how to deal with this problem. Seriously do not wave the red flag at the bull. The purpose of the good ideas and vibes that we have all shared here, is to hopefully help you come to a win situation.
Sure some will argue that using the media, mp's etc will benefit you, but really how many of those cases end up happy.

However, as you have now asked for help regarding addresses, and this is what AFF is about helping people......and if your prepared to commit suicide, let me load the gun for ya

Coffs Harbour MP
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Yes... im sure the media/MP's/Police will just jump at the chance play the "underdog" angle to represent a "hard done by" P plate bogan "hoon" getting "picked on" for breaking the law.. NOT.



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After driving a FWD Kia for 4 years removing p-plates instantly enables me to handle a twin turbo V8?

Thats hardly the idea towards P plates. The intention is to give drivers the essential experience to handle 'themselves' better on our roads not their cars, thats what driver training is for!

With time comes a degree of maturity, granted not everybody embraces their 3year learning curve with open arms, but it makes sense to still restrict certain vehicles.
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what ever happened to those metal P plate brackets that you used to be able to buy years ago. i remember i NEVER ever had a P plate fly off one of them. they screw to the side of the number plate from memory, you then slide the P plate on the bracket and away you go. i always used to carry a couple of spare P's cause people would nick them at shopping centres.

by the way, KFC is really bad for you.
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what ever happened to those metal P plate brackets that you used to be able to buy years ago. i remember i NEVER ever had a P plate fly off one of them. they screw to the side of the number plate from memory, you then slide the P plate on the bracket and away you go. i always used to carry a couple of spare P's cause people would nick them at shopping centres.

by the way, KFC is really bad for you.
These are still available, I had them as well and never lost a plate. However they cost money...
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Not sure if it's similar in other states, but in SA you have your P1's for a year minumum i think, and then you progress to your P2's which is exactly the same except you dont have to wear P Plates. That way the police do not unfairly target you, not that they should in the first place. But you see most people that do the right thing dont get held back and progress to their P2's rather quickly and dont have to worry about it.
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I had those plate holders and used wire to secure them. Never lost one, none ever get flogged. If people can't just grab em and run, they won't bother having a go.

Even then a cop asked me where my P plates were. I kid you not! :

What a ridiculous punishment for not having P plates displayed though, far out that is shite! For a comparison I got fined about $200 for 25km/h over the speed limit FFS :
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Just out of curiosity you have only been a member since march this year, exactly what 'years' are you talking about.
Since when do you need to be a member to view the pub? Or maybe I have more then one username?????

I was pointing out that "sleekism" has started numerous threads about being "victimised" by the police,from my experience most people who think like this have chips on their shoulders, and are usually "victimised" for a reason.

I was on my P's only a few years ago, and never experienced the sort of persecution many P platers claim they are victims of.
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However they cost money...
Yeah but surely they would be cheaper than an infringement notice?
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