New Submarines - Page 10

Franco Cozzo · 13-02-2015, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Hell yeah brah, hit me up wit some of them hookers. Craig's account.

What do you mean some? We're hitting up ALL of them

Cashie · 13-02-2015, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Grunter

I don't doubt the need for a defence force, I'm more questioning the need specifically for Subs.

What specifically can/do they provide to Australia outside of being involved if there were a direct military invasion. I can the need for boats/ships/aircraft/etc., plus all of these can be utilised in peacetime. Genuine question.

We don't have subs just as a tool to deter/fight other subs in the region, subs play a pivotal role in surface warfare, surveillance, intelligence etc..
They are a part of the bigger defence package.

Those questioning the current state of the world and the perceived very low risk of war at home need to remember, a defence force can't just be turned off and on at will, to have a effective defence force means keeping them skilled and doing their jobs during peacetime (and providing a deterrent to others).

marty351 · 13-02-2015, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by marty351

Well, for starters, island nation, massive coastlline, anti shipping capability, covert operations/insertions/spying, fleet protection, fear, the list goes on.....

Why we NEED submarines.

CoupeKing · 13-02-2015, 07:28 PM

New subs working in conjunction with the new planes we should get, and we'll sink em all to the bottom of the drink.

burnz · 13-02-2015, 07:37 PM

I still think the Collins is a good ship...

just needs a software update.. are you listening garry, new software, thank you mister GRM less money on Volvo more on oz defence..

monzie · 14-02-2015, 03:41 PM

There is no reason for China and Asia to invade us,

They already own most of the country!!!

DoreSlamR · 14-02-2015, 04:23 PM

Less than 2% of Australian land is Chinese owned last time I checked.

Don't believe the hype

**Fordman1** · 14-02-2015, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DoreSlamR

Less than 2% of Australian land is Chinese owned last time I checked.

Don't believe the hype

So all of Victoria is Chinese ?

burnz · 15-02-2015, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Barraxr8

So all of Victoria is Chinese ?

you make it sound like a problem, oh well..

**Fordman1** · 15-02-2015, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by burnz

you make it sound like a problem, oh well..

No not a problem, just 2%

burnz · 15-02-2015, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Barraxr8

No not a problem, just 2%

ha ha but isn't 2% Victoria??

why cant it be Canberra, oh wait it is included..

pottery beige · 20-02-2015, 05:33 AM

http://www.news.com.au/national/sout...-1227226128222

Road_Warrior · 20-02-2015, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

http://www.news.com.au/national/sout...-1227226128222

Ingrid from Sveden

My what a large submarine you have

Road_Warrior · 20-02-2015, 12:13 PM

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-2...ompany/6159834

Does "won't be built by Australian company" mean won't be built in Australia, or won't be built by ASC?

Road_Warrior · 20-02-2015, 12:37 PM

LOL at the Council wheelie bins. The things you see on a warship

**Fordman1** · 20-02-2015, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

image

LOL at the Council wheelie bins. The things you see on a warship

Where's the Hills Hoist ?

pottery beige · 20-02-2015, 06:29 PM

Brilliant pic thanks for sharing

Cashie · 20-02-2015, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

image

LOL at the Council wheelie bins. The things you see on a warship

Got to keep the gash somewhere or the greenies will have a sook.

You obviously missed the table, chairs and umbrella between the masts.

Road_Warrior · 20-02-2015, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cashie

Got to keep the gash somewhere or the greenies will have a sook.

You obviously missed the table, chairs and umbrella between the masts.

Yeah, I saw the benches too. I lol'ed.

jpblue1000 · 21-02-2015, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cashie

Got to keep the gash somewhere or the greenies will have a sook.

You obviously missed the table, chairs and umbrella between the masts.

I think most collins class knockers believe this is a picture of a submarine...their thought process foes something like this...of course its a bad design, the entertainment area is outside and I bet they have fly screen doors on an Australian designed submarine.

JP

Cashie · 21-02-2015, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jpblue1000

I think most collins class knockers believe this is a picture of a submarine...their thought process foes something like this...of course its a bad design, the entertainment area is outside and I bet they have fly screen doors on an Australian designed submarine.

JP

Having served a few years on an ANZAC Frigate I've got a fair idea what's what.

Agile · 12-03-2015, 01:40 PM

Here is an excerpt from the published letter by a former Collins Class commander.

Perhaps our strongest supporter is the highly acclaimed United States submarine service and that should say it all. The Americans also visited us many times during our build program and have adopted concepts such as modular design and build, performance contracts, and combat system concepts in their own submarine programs. They are great admirers of what we have achieved and are mystified by the paucity of the political debate and lack of support for such an important element of our Defence Force, though they would not be so impolite to say so.

Want the truth read on

http://indaily.com.au/opinion/2015/0...olitical-spin/

Road_Warrior · 12-03-2015, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cashie

Having served a few years on an ANZAC Frigate I've got a fair idea what's what.

All ahead, Max Chickens please Cashie

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Hey pottery, got a sitrep for us?

mcnews · 12-03-2015, 02:22 PM

One of the old pics of the ship (50 H.MA.S Swan) I spent more than five years on as the Anti-Submarine Aircraft Controller

Havoc · 12-03-2015, 02:52 PM

Hey sure the jap subs are worse, less range, harder to repair major issues, lose jobs and investment but think of the immediate money savings haha

**Uncle_Ken** · 12-03-2015, 03:26 PM

When you say Jap sub, do you mean this type?

UK

pottery beige · 12-03-2015, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mcnews

One of the old pics of the ship (50 H.MA.S Swan) I spent more than five years on as the Anti-Submarine Aircraft Controller

cheers for that share, just had a nice wiki read

Agile · 31-03-2015, 08:27 PM

What bloody hope have we got? Complete incompetance from Department of Defence and DMO. If you can get your head around it, these two clowns are " heads of department". Whos advice are they relying on? Incredible!!!!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/nat...-1227280458071

Thank goodness for Nick X, a senator standing up for his State and along with that his COUNTRY.

Cashie · 31-03-2015, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Agile

What bloody hope have we got? Complete incompetance from Department of Defence and DMO. If you can get your head around it, these two clowns are " heads of department". Whos advice are they relying on? Incredible!!!!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/nat...-1227280458071

Thank goodness for Nick X, a senator standing up for his State and along with that his COUNTRY.

What, so the main argument against building them in Japan from this article is because their English is not too good?

What incompetence are you referring to? Nothing has been decided yet, this guy is an ex-Chief of Navy.

I hope whomever signs off on the final contract take more into consideration than just "jobs for my state"... Maintaining jobs in our own country is VERY important, so is having the BEST defence assets available for our available budget.

**Charliewool** · 31-03-2015, 10:04 PM

My old man's ashes would be turning in their urn at the idea of the Japs building OUR warships (subs) AND on OUR soil!!
For christsake, what is wrong with the frigging bozos supposedly running this bloody country??
Gee, how'd I'd love to be able to wind back the clock to 1944 and ask our brave lads fighting in Darwin, PNG, or Burma or starving in Changi what they reckon of the idea?
Fairdinkum, Australia has totally lost the plot!
And WE (me included) just continue to allow mindless decisions to be made by mindless imbeciles without a whimper... furthering our slide down the gurgler!