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Old 10-09-2014, 04:28 PM   #31
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They have these so called lockdowns in NSW also. I mean its not like RBT random when they block off an entire road and stop every car and because of the backlog you are stopped for a long time. The idiots in NSW blocked the M1 Pacific Hwy before and tested everybody in every car or truck travelling along it under resourced and under manned it was chaos.
A real PITA if your just going about your lawful business in the correct manner.

All because 12 people have died more than same time 2013 when that was the lowest year since since 1924 I mean really how many more modes of transport are available and how many more drivers are on the road now than in 1924. Interesting what figures they use to justify their revenue measures and dont be fooled thats all its about. 1924 really ......just expected to swallow that tripe.
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I challenge any government to turn off all speed cameras for 12 months and prove it has had an impact on accident rates and the road toll... truth is, the number of bingles will probably reduce!
They actually did this on one of Melbournes freeways, can't remember which one, but the police publicly stated that the cameras were to be turned off for maintenance for a couple months from memory, they actually left them on but didn't make that public, there was a large amount than normal of people speeding in that particular section.
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Even more embarrasing would be the lower spec variants of the VF in HSV's stable getting whopped by a factory XR8.
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Old 10-09-2014, 04:48 PM   #33
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They actually did this on one of Melbournes freeways, can't remember which one, but the police publicly stated that the cameras were to be turned off for maintenance for a couple months from memory, they actually left them on but didn't make that public, there was a large amount than normal of people speeding in that particular section.
Speeding yes, what about the 'speeding saves lives' mantra? How many deaths were there when this happened?
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Speeding yes, what about the 'speeding saves lives' mantra? How many deaths were there when this happened?
I guess we will never know this one, considering anything over 3km/h is considering "speeding" and I highly doubt would impact an inevitable crash any further than the speed limit.
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Even more embarrasing would be the lower spec variants of the VF in HSV's stable getting whopped by a factory XR8.
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:11 PM   #35
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It's been my experience that in any State where they publicly announce a Blitz I see less Police on the road.

Usually when the Police have a blitz you only know about it when you've been stopped.
You dont see them on the road because the clowns are actually off road in the bushes beside a dead straight section of highway getting paid to do diddly squat and do target practice with their radar guns Have about as much respect for these sorts as thieves and tax collectors.
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Old 10-09-2014, 06:41 PM   #36
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I think that these lockdowns actually contravene our constitution. It certainly has that smell about it!!
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:28 PM   #37
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You dont see them on the road because the clowns are actually off road in the bushes beside a dead straight section of highway getting paid to do diddly squat and do target practice with their radar guns Have about as much respect for these sorts as thieves and tax collectors.
The best bit is they send you a ticket in the mail 3 weeks later, by then your already dead according to THE statistics, or anyone you kill should be able to sue the govt for letting a obvious risk to public safety loose on the roads.
It doesn't matter if it is 1 k over, they are the ones that have set the LAW,
If they believe it is life endangering to break the limit they should also be able to be sued if someone issued with an infringement and injures/kills another party between the time of offence and receipt of the fine.
I know it's bull but they can't have it both ways. The govt obviously considers you SAFE enough to continue your journey even though you have blatantly broken the law (in their eyes).
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All because 12 people have died more than same time 2013 when that was the lowest year since since 1924 I mean really how many more modes of transport are available and how many more drivers are on the road now than in 1924. Interesting what figures they use to justify their revenue measures and dont be fooled thats all its about. 1924 really ......just expected to swallow that tripe.
Apparently there has been less total accidents, however due to the cars having more occupants on board the fatality number is higher. That's what I have read somewhere, will have to double check the figures.

I did see one HWP have someone pulled over today, I rarely see them in that area, only usually a roadside flash for cash on that road.
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Old 11-09-2014, 06:48 AM   #39
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Just on a different note.....does anyone know what the rules are for setting up mobile speed cameras in NSW on a gradient. These mobile cameras are the ones that are operated by a contractor. I know the rules vary from state to state, that's why I'm asking about NSW only.
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Speeding yes, what about the 'speeding saves lives' mantra? How many deaths were there when this happened?
If I was to put money on it I would say the same give or take 1 or 2 people.
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Just on a different note.....does anyone know what the rules are for setting up mobile speed cameras in NSW on a gradient. These mobile cameras are the ones that are operated by a contractor. I know the rules vary from state to state, that's why I'm asking about NSW only.
Or if they are legally allowed to park a on a footpath???

Sometimes I wish I had a machine gun for some drive-by action.
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Old 11-09-2014, 11:44 PM   #42
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Or if they are legally allowed to park a on a footpath???
I often wonder the same thing here in Canberra they park their '***** vans' with cameras on median strips, footpaths and illegally on the side of the road, as if they are above the law.
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:10 AM   #43
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I often wonder the same thing here in Canberra they park their '***** vans' with cameras on median strips, footpaths and illegally on the side of the road, as if they are above the law.
I know that Police and council parking cops (rangers?) can park just about anywhere if it's 'in the course of carrying out their duty'.

Don't know about the contractors though.
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Yep it works, that happened in the UK and the road toll dropped:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...accidents.html

Plus over there with 3 times the amount of cars on the road etc etc the road toll per 100,000 people is about half than here - even with higher/normal speed limits, everyone does 85-95mph (140 - 150Kph ish) on the motorway anyway otherwise traffic wouldnt move.

The speed limit is not issue when it comes to the toll rates (easy to blame/make money on though).
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Old 16-09-2014, 04:34 PM   #45
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Radar and or speed cameras calibrated anually?? How can especially radar guns be only calibrated every 12 months? I used to work for a company that supply components to Ford. Most measuring items had to be verified every 3 months and calibrated every 6 months and non critical every 12 months (computer monitored on every torque) I cant see how a gun that can be dropped and mishandled be calibrated just once a year. Also on calibration reports the before and after readings are given. Im sure Gov Co never make these public..
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Or if they are legally allowed to park a on a footpath???

Sometimes I wish I had a machine gun for some drive-by action.
yep and you'd be find for your bullet braking the sound barrier. (speeding)
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