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Old 13-08-2013, 06:26 PM   #1
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The global boss of Ford Alan Mulally delayed the shutdown of the company’s Australian factories in more than 300 meetings held over seven years -- during which time the car giant lost more than half a billion dollars trying to keep them alive.

In an exclusive interview with News Corp in Sydney today Mr Mulally revealed the sharp decline in Falcon sales and reduced output at Ford’s car assembly line in Broadmeadows and the engine factory in Geelong were discussed weekly at the highest levels of the company in Detroit “ever since I started at Ford”.

The former Boeing executive, who joined Ford in 2006, was in Australia to confirm plans to reintroduce the Ford Mustang and unveil 11 other top secret models that will help fill the void when the Falcon and Territory exit Australian showrooms in 2016. Mr Mulally said the decision in May to shut the Australian factories was made in Detroit approximately 48 hours before Ford employees were told on the production lines.

“We really had been trying hard to find a way to make it work for years,” Mr Mulally said. “Ever since I started we’ve been reviewing all the operations around the world and (Australia) was a regular part of our review process since I’ve been here.” He said the future of the Australian operations would be discussed in two-and-a-half hour meetings every Thursday scheduled to give Ford executives in Detroit an update on all markets around the world.

“I will always feel really good that we worked so hard (to keep Ford’s manufacturing operations in Australia),” said Mr Mulally. “We take these decisions very seriously. It impacts a lot of people’s lives. It was a very thoughtful decision, a very hard decision.” He said company founder Henry Ford’s original vision was to “manufacture cars where we had major markets”.

“But at the end of the day when you look at the exchange rates, and the cost structure it was clearly best to serve Australian customers (from overseas factories),” he said. Ford’s chief operating officer Mark Fields said the three-year notice was among the longest warning of a factory closure in the Ford world.

“The approach we took was to treat people respectfully … and give them enough time to transition to the next chapter of their lives,” said Mr Fields. “We knew there was going to be an impact which is why we wanted an orderly transition. We wanted to be absolutely as transparent as we can.” Ford said it is committed to keeping the Falcon alive until October 2016 even though industry analysts predict a drop-off in demand as a result of it going out of production.

“We will always take into account the changing environment (but) our plan is to make an orderly transition,” Mr Mulally said. The Mondeo medium-sized car will likely replace the Falcon because sales of large sedans have dropped below their mid-size peers. Ford also unveiled a new locally-designed and engineered seven-seat SUV called the Everest -- but it will be likely be made in Thailand.

The Ford Mustang due in Australia in late 2015 or early 2016 will not be revealed until next April at the New York motor show. Ford says it will increase the number of models in its Australian range by 30 per cent between now and when the last Falcon rolls off the Broadmeadows production line. Among the stars in its line-up is a new car with a special key that can be programmed by parents of teenagers.

It can mute the stereo, limit the speed and ensure all safety systems cannot be switched off. It will also call 000 in a crash in which airbags deploy. Ford vehicles have been on sale in Australia for almost 110 years and the company has manufactured locally since 1925. But it will become an import-only brand by the end of 2016.
Finally some words from Ford’s top man. For me, that has been the one thing that has been lacking in the aftermath of the closure announcement.

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Old 13-08-2013, 06:35 PM   #2
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Agreed...Its good to know they tried all they could to make it work. But in the end it was just a non profit option.. Sad..
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Doesn't matter if the Ford Australia worker is getting paid $25 an hour or $5 an hour, you can't compete with Ford Thailand wages and production capability.

Free trade agreement between Australia and Thailand killed Ford Australia.
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Needed more models being built and in particular, the Focus... That would have saved us. Just like all the euro car makers, they all have small cars in their stables and thats the future. Losing the Focus production was the beginning of the end of Australian manufacturing for Ford.
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I don't don't know Kypez, i think ford beans counters would have done the sums in the cold hard light of day , and while yes it may have made some dollars with the focus here, making them elsewhere at a cheaper cost would make them more $$$.
i think Since the GFC these car companies have woken up they must maximize profit if they are going to survive against the cheap labor countries, and means not building in expensive to manufacture countries..... and that is Australia.
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In time I would have loved to hear about what options they actually looked at. Did they ever think of making a GWRD platform to serve Mustang/Lincoln/Falcon etc..that was the only way it was ever going to work.

BTW what platform does the new Mustang use?

The Focus plan would never work, why would it when an identical car is made in Thailand? Holdens Cruze idea will fail..and hard, the volume is not there and the margin on smaller cars makes it hard. And its just going to get more competitive.
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Needed more models being built and in particular, the Focus... That would have saved us. Just like all the euro car makers, they all have small cars in their stables and thats the future. Losing the Focus production was the beginning of the end of Australian manufacturing for Ford.
Focus wouldn't have done a real lot...profit margin would be very low, and Holden have claimed that the Cruze erodes profits for them...
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I don't don't know Kypez, i think ford beans counters would have done the sums in the cold hard light of day , and while yes it may have made some dollars with the focus here, making them elsewhere at a cheaper cost would make them more $$$.
i think Since the GFC these car companies have woken up they must maximize profit if they are going to survive against the cheap labor countries, and means not building in expensive to manufacture countries..... and that is Australia.
Agreed... though with Mazda selling at 3000 units, I think there would have been more profitability with the Focus here. Agreed that its still cheaper anywhere else in the world. Will be interesting to see where the dollar falls to and to see what it would be worth then.
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Focus wouldn't have done a real lot...profit margin would be very low, and Holden have claimed that the Cruze erodes profits for them...
Oh no doubt. I'm just saying there was absolutely no hope with just Falcon though with the way Large cars sales nose dived. The Focus could have prolonged that for a while.

The Cruze will hurt Holden more with the falling dollar since a lot of their components are imported. Do they export Cruze?

Very good on Mullaly coming out and saying this. Might be able to win back some good will with the Australian buyers
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Hearing from Ford's top man that they tried hard eases the pain a little as does the very lengthy notice period of over 3 years.

I appreciate what I have now more than at any time in my lengthy stint as a Ford customer. Wolfie with all its supercharged goodness is a keeper.
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Why don't I believe him when he says "we did all we could do"...
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Why don't I believe him when he says "we did all we could do"...
Did they ask the workers?
Did they ask the union?
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Then they did NOT do all they could have.
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Why don't I believe him when he says "we did all we could do"...
Somebody let Ford AUS install the Miami V8 into Falcon, ecoboost motor, TDCI motor into territory, ecoLPI programme. Maybe it all makes sense. Australian govt firstly responsible , and second an Australian buying public that wouldn't know a good car if it slapped them in the face and would prefer to either fork out for a German taxi or skimp on a Korean shopping trolley.
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The workers have absolutely nothing to do with it, nor the unions, its about integration...or lack of it.
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What did they try? He's said nothing here, other than a bit of PR stuff to try & keep the media happy.


Holden are trying, Ford did not!!! And before I get 100 quotes, this is my opinion & I'm allowed to have one.

I just hope they have enough good senses to stay in V8's. If they leave that, that is the last straw for me..
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Burela cancelling Focus/Kuga and keeping the I6 engine plant open killed Ford Australia. The years following they were just shifting deck chairs around on the Titianic. No global V6 for Falcon and no small car to build volume, they were doomed.
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What did they try? He's said nothing here, other than a bit of PR stuff to try & keep the media happy.


Holden are trying, Ford did not!!! And before I get 100 quotes, this is my opinion & I'm allowed to have one.

I just hope they have enough good senses to stay in V8's. If they leave that, that is the last straw for me..
My tipping point is the guys and gals in R&D. Drop that and I am done, but god I am hanging to see the next XR6T.
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I always buy new cars.

Sitting here with teenage kids that will be looking for work after 2016.

What car should I buy next...Holden, Ford or Toyota?

Sounds like a 50 nanosecond decision.

We live in the Geelong area.
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Burela cancelling Focus/Kuga and keeping the I6 engine plant open killed Ford Australia. The years following they were just shifting deck chairs around on the Titanic. No global V6 for Falcon and no small car to build volume, they were doomed.
i have to agree mate, as much as i love grandpa's axe, i think it's short coming if there is one is the package, it's a long bugger that restricts some options in the coachwork department, perhaps another mark against it is the cost to keep building it here, i suspect it would be cheaper to ship one of the yank already built v6's here and slot it in:(.
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Screams of good cop bad cop.."blame me ..take the heat off the local team..."...does not excus the miss management and bad decisions made since Pollities was replace by successive incomptant internationals..or take into account the effect on the large trinbal like following for the brand..lots of expensive presentation and words yesterday that was quite impressive..pity that passion has not been driven from the top local brass for decades..too little too late
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What did they try? He's said nothing here, other than a bit of PR stuff to try & keep the media happy.


Holden are trying, Ford did not!!! And before I get 100 quotes, this is my opinion & I'm allowed to have one.

I just hope they have enough good senses to stay in V8's. If they leave that, that is the last straw for me..
Of course you're allowed your opinion however can I balance it with mine...Holden have received double the amount Toyota or Ford have individually received, are bending their workers over a barrel by asking "here you vote between no pay increase or no job", then they're going back to the Feds for a continuous stream of money, still making losses....that's not trying too hard it's looking for escape options if any one in the food chain says no and the heat can be taken off management. I hate the decision by Dearborn, but the workers have 3 years to prepare, know what they will get so if smart will plan financially. 1500 Ford Australia employees still get to be employed and we buyers get a wider vehicle selection of cars that are actually selling well in the market for dealers to also survive. I came home from hospital in a new Falcon XM, learnt to drive in XW, my daughter came home in a Mondeo, she loved the acceleration of the G6ET shouting "blast off" whenever I (safely) hit a freeway onramp and she now loves the SZ Terry, as does my wife more importantly. Time doesn't stand still as much as I wish it would.

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Somebody let Ford AUS install the Miami V8 into Falcon, ecoboost motor, TDCI motor into territory, ecoLPI programme. Maybe it all makes sense. Australian govt firstly responsible , and second an Australian buying public that wouldn't know a good car if it slapped them in the face and would prefer to either fork out for a German taxi or skimp on a Korean shopping trolley.
They could of kept making the wagon even with an Ecoboost 4 cyl,and have a variety of options with the Falcon especially a Falcon with only the basic's like Hyundai only make a basic model, this is for people who only want to buy a new car but cant afford a top of the range.

This I feel is where Ford had lost sight of its original vision which was to create cars for the masses, Henry Ford made his money making cars that were cheap and reliable for the day not trying to make Cadillac's.

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My tipping point is the guys and gals in R&D. Drop that and I am done, but god I am hanging to see the next XR6T.
I can't see the R&D team lasting more than 10 years. By then they will more than likely shift it off shore also.

Lets hope not as we need these skills to be kept downunder.
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They could of kept making the wagon even with an Ecoboost 4 cyl,and have a variety of options with the Falcon especially a Falcon with only the basic's like Hyundai only make a basic model, this is for people who only want to buy a new car but cant afford a top of the range.

This I feel is where Ford had lost sight of its original vision which was to create cars for the masses, Henry Ford made his money making cars that were cheap and reliable for the day not trying to make Cadillac's.
I want to add that Henry Ford would not have been noticed if not for his decision to race his car "Sweepstakes" against other popular vehicles of his day, and win!
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I do not feel that all was done to prevent this. The presentation highlighted all the money they have spent on R&D ect but none of it is placed in our local vehicles.

You can't tell me that there wouldn't be a case to sell the Falcon in America as a Lincoln, or that there wouldn't be a market for a Falcon Ute over there as well.


It would also make sense to build the Everest here, as it will be a higher profit vehicle. Thailand is not the most politically stable country in the world and also suffers from natural disasters.
Having a second plant elsewhere is not a bad idea if you think of the money you can loose when they had issues with flooding ect, that cause loss in production volumes.
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Which is odd - considering statistically Australians are getting larger/fatter.. You would assume there would be a need for larger cars - just sayin
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I think some people may be missing some of the analysis.

Its not an issue of just keeping the plant marginally viable in Australia.

What the man says is “But at the end of the day when you look at the exchange rates, and the cost structure it was clearly best to serve Australian customers (from overseas factories),”

The focus is given the currency level and free trade agreements it cheaper to service the Australian customer from overseas. i.e we get cheaper cards and a larger range.

Now I know everyone who is a Falcon supporter will cry foul (me included) however its a global view, and to be honest, hes probably right. Ford can deliver cheaper cars and a larger choice of cars by using an import only model for the Australian consumer.

I\m personally devastated to see Falcon die. However, I know there will be plenty of good offerings on the table from Ford and I will get over it. And more importantly there will still be a good Ford to buy.
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The new line up of Fords looks fantastic, love that Mondeo wagon.

Manufacturing is dying here full stop, not just he car industry. Falcon is dead for just reasons, if it could have been made profitable globally I am sure they would have done that. Markets dictate products, ours no longer wants the Falcon.

Bring on the Mustang. The thing Australia is lacking is a lighter muscle car, Ford and Holden all push 1800kg nowadays. Hopefully the new Mustang loses some beef!

It is great Ford sees the value in our engineering expertise they have continued to support and seems will continue to support.
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Ford at the end of the day are out to make money, and as cheaply as possible.

Australian society is different now, compared to the time just after WWII when Australia was industrialising and labour costs were cheap. Now we are a huge importer in the SE Asian region, but our products are just way too expensive compared to the imports.

The government has let this happen right across the manufacturing sector. Importers have made huge profits, most of which probably leaves the country.

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