VFACTS July 2013

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by jpd80

12 Down days in August and September (and possibly October too) means Ford is effectivly cutting production in half.

Oh, this is not good.......

Not good, and if FBT legislation goes through, it'll be the end.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Barraxr8

Not good, and if FBT legislation goes through, it'll be the end.

What's the feeling amongst the troops, is there any signalling from Ford that this is the last straw?

[Brazen]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

...aaaand that there is the elephant in the room of heavy government motor industry subsidies and protection that no one wants to admit, but it's the whole problem.

Too many people think tariffs and protectionism somehow magically solve an industries woes...and really don't like it when the harsh facts of life are pointed out. Motoring journalists who point it out are really hated, saying they're "knocking the Australian industry"...no they're not...they're just stating the facts of economic life.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Name me one country which does it with less protectionism or subsidy than Australia and has a successful motor industry.

[2011G6E]

We aren't allowed to, because we've signed up to some very restrictive free trade agreements over the years in the naive belief that everyone else will hold hands and not protect thier industry too.

Remember some years back when an upholstery business here that supplied the big makers (and smaller manufacturers) with cloth and trim was getting into trouble because of cheap imports? The government was going to give them some simple tax breaks to help prop them up, but the international pressure came down like a ton of bricks and threatened Australia with penalties if it did so. I believe it was able to do this because the upholstery place also exported goods.

We can probably only give the support we do now to the car makers here because they aren't big exporters and basically sell most of their cars internally. If they were major exporters, the international trade mobs would once again descend like a flock of vultures to stop us "interfering" with international trade.

We're not allowed to support our farmers with subsidies...even though most European countries and the USA all do so, very strongly, even paying farmers NOT to grow crops that they have enough of. We can't protect our own industry in any real way, full stop.

There's no easy answers, and we can no longer pretend we're an island...even if we actually are. Any decision made has to be looked at as to who it will offend overseas.

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by Brazen

You have no idea what you are talking about. Name me one country which does it with less protectionism or subsidy than Australia and has a successful motor industry.

But why would you compare a country with a successful auto industry to the Australian auto industry? The two are completely different.

[jpd80]

Light Car Segment Winners :

Hyundai i20 (1,262 – 13%)
Toyota Yaris (1,156 – 11.9%)
Mazda2 (1,106 – 11.4%)

Small Car Segment Winners:

Toyota Corolla (3,945 – 18.8%)
Mazda3 (3,464 – 16.5%)
Hyundai i30 (2,467 – 11.7%)

Medium Car Segment Winners:

Toyota Camry (2,061 – 43.4%)
Mazda6 (762 – 16.1)
BMW 3 Series (487 – 32% of medium car segment over 60k)

Large Car Segment Winners:

Holden Commodore (2,827 – 67.6%)
Toyota Aurion (604 – 14.4%)
Ford Falcon (594 – 14.2%)

Upper Large Car Segment Winners:

Chrysler 300 (166 – 66.4% of upper large under 100k)
Holden Caprice (84 – 33.6% of upper large under 100k)
Porsche Panamera (16 – 29.1% of upper large over 100k)

People Mover Segment Winners:

Hyundai iMAX (277 – 31.2%)
Kia Carnival (264 – 29.7%)
Toyota Tarago (113 – 12.7%)

Sports Segment Winners:

Toyota 86 (589 – 38.9%)
Hyundai Veloster (340 – 22.4%)
Subaru BRZ (118 – 7.8%)

Supercars (200k+) Segment Winners:

Porsche 911 (20 – 22%)
BMW 6 Series (18 – 19.8%)
Aston Martin Coupe (10 – 11%)

SUV Small Segment Winners:

Hyundai ix35 (1,401 – 29.1%)
Nissan Dualis (944 – 19.6%)
Mitsubishi ASX (841 – 17.5%)

SUV Medium Segment Winners:

Mazda CX-5 (1,638 – 18.9%)
Toyota RAV4 (1,521 – 17.6%)
Subaru Forester (888 – 10.3%)

SUV Large Segment Winners:

Jeep Grand Cherokee (1,196 – 14.5%)
Toyota Prado (1,059 – 12.8%)
Holden Captiva 7 (1,016 – 12.3%)

SUV Upper Large Segment Winners:

Toyota Landcruiser Wagon (686 -77.6%)
Nissan Patrol Wagon (198 – 22.4%)


Pickup 4×2 Segment Winners

Toyota Hilux 4×2 (873 – 22.1%)
Holden Utility (590 – 14.9%)
Ford Ranger 4×2 (565 – 14.3%)

Pickup 4×4 Segment Winners

Toyota Hilux 4×4 (2,098 – 22.6%)
Mitsubishi Triton (1,410 – 14.2%)
Holden Colorado (1,374 – 13.8%)

[Wretched]

Wow Aurion outsold Falcon...that's got to be a first (and a new low). Even the BRZ/86 twins out did Falcon.

First time too the Jeep GC outsold the Territory.

[Joe5619]

What was territory numbers?

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Brazen

You have no idea what you are talking about. Name me one country which does it with less protectionism or subsidy than Australia and has a successful motor industry.

Change motor industry to manufacturing in general.
China subsidise their manufacturing industry and people here gripe about the small amount they have gotten.

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by Joe5619

What was territory numbers?

966
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showpos...&postcount=191

[jpd80]

Does anyone have Falcon Ute numbers?

Hopefully, I will be adding to August sales by way of an EcoLPI Ute,
that is if Orix get back to us - they seem to be really pushing Toyota...

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Does anyone have Falcon Ute numbers?

Hopefully, I will be adding to August sales by way of an EcoLPI Ute,
that is if Orix get back to us - they seem to be really pushing Toyota...

355.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/245213/f...-falcon-sales/

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Does anyone have Falcon Ute numbers?

Hopefully, I will be adding to August sales by way of an EcoLPI Ute,
that is if Orix get back to us - they seem to be really pushing Toyota...

You'll love the LPi. I took a company XR6 LPi to a union meeting in Melbourne yesterday and it was magnificent. You would not ever pick it from a petrol version, except maybe it takes a second or so longer for the engine to fire once you have turned the key.

[russellw]

The first set of graphical statistics have been uploaded now and can be found HERE.

Cheers
Russ

[russellw]

The supplementary statistical data is up now as well and can be found HERE

Cheers
Russ