Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 25-02-2019, 09:38 PM   #1
Sprintey
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprintey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Catland
Posts: 3,831
Default Endura vs Acadia

I just realised that Red vs Blue, Detroit iron, 4 door family cars, the eternal battle - still exists here in Australia.

It's just now it's the Endura vs the Acadia.

Endura is Ontario assembled, Acadia in Tennessee. Both companies have done RHD and sent them here. I think in GM's case they spent 100 Million converting for Australian and NZ buyers.

https://www.caradvice.com.au/721194/...rending&slot=2

https://www.caradvice.com.au/695715/...acadia-review/

Now these two actually make a point of difference in the market. We are accustomed to well built, Japanese and Korean SUVs and tend to buy (and re-buy: good resale) these cars, but now we have an American take on the genre.

So which is better? 5 seats in the Endura seems to hand overall usefulness to the Acadia. And maybe pricing falls Acadia's way too. Endura diesel and Acadia petrol V6. Will buying American end up a bit like buying Jeep (and there it is for the Pentastar trifecta...)? Will either of them exist in Australian RHD in a generation's time? As far as I can see, we have a point of difference, a bit of Americana, in our family car market with these two.
Which would you pick? Or would you pick Japanese or Korean?

I must compare with the Territory, for that is my frame of reference. Not one of the affordable medium family SUVs has the full time AWD (Suby does, with CVT) or ride/handling balance of the Territory, and I'll miss that. Of the two North American offerings, I quite like look of the Acadia... Of course, the Territory's successor lies somewhere near the Jag F-Pace, the BMW X5 and the Porsche SUVs, in terms of overall concept.

And the American SUVs I'd be very interested in are the Navigator, the Explorer and the new Expedition! In the meantime, in an SUV family car world, can the Endura and Acadia blaze a path to make American cars great in Australia again?
__________________
I6 + AWD
Sprintey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-02-2019, 11:42 AM   #2
Vesper Martini
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Vesper Martini's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Victoria
Posts: 7,854
Default Re: Endura vs Acadia

I haven't had a good look at the Acadia, but it looks to be a more progressive transition for a VF commodore buyer than the new commodore. (if that makes sense)

It even has the same commodore V6 engine, one think im a bit skeptical about is the promised fuel consumption.

Fuel consumption is rated at 8.9 L/100km on the Acadia 2WD and 9.3 L/100km for Acadia AWD, although numerous variants available on the launch drive trip computer figures showed low to mid 10 L/100km in mostly highway conditions. A more representative figure will come once the Acadia passes through the CarAdvice garage.
__________________
______________________________
2015 Territory Titanium RWD Diesel - SOLD
2016 BMW X5 xdrive 30D Msport
Seadoo Challenger 210SE 310HP
Vesper Martini is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-02-2019, 12:01 PM   #3
Smoke Pursuit
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 22,927
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: DASH/bfiipursuit has been alot of help over the years I have frequented this forum, lots of thoughtful and informed posts, very much a valued contributor. 
Default Re: Endura vs Acadia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bevsta007 View Post
I haven't had a good look at the Acadia, but it looks to be a more progressive transition for a VF commodore buyer than the new commodore. (if that makes sense)

It even has the same commodore V6 engine, one think im a bit skeptical about is the promised fuel consumption.

Fuel consumption is rated at 8.9 L/100km on the Acadia 2WD and 9.3 L/100km for Acadia AWD, although numerous variants available on the launch drive trip computer figures showed low to mid 10 L/100km in mostly highway conditions. A more representative figure will come once the Acadia passes through the CarAdvice garage.

Not really... New Commodore has the same V6 as an option too. Having had a VF Calais and having driven a new one they are very similar (even smell the same). As for as V6 Commodore buyers go they should not be discouraged from buying a ZB, its only the V8 drivers that have missed out.



As for the Acadia its as ugly as sin, it might eat some Kluger sales up.
__________________
2022 RAM Laramie 5.7
2023.50 Ranger Wildtrak 3.0 V6 Premium Pack
2024 Everest Sport 3.0 V6 Touring Pack
2025 Mustang Darkhorse 6M Blue Ember + Appearance pack ETA April 25.
Smoke Pursuit is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-02-2019, 01:02 PM   #4
Vesper Martini
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Vesper Martini's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Victoria
Posts: 7,854
Default Re: Endura vs Acadia

Progressive transition. not Transition. ie moving from the large Sedan to a large SUV.

Just like Falcon owners Progressed to the Territory

For Commodore owners the Acadia should feel be more familiar than the Horrible Craptiva
__________________
______________________________
2015 Territory Titanium RWD Diesel - SOLD
2016 BMW X5 xdrive 30D Msport
Seadoo Challenger 210SE 310HP
Vesper Martini is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-02-2019, 05:29 PM   #5
Sprintey
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprintey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Catland
Posts: 3,831
Default Re: Endura vs Acadia

Also the Kluger and Pathfinder are US built. Did not know that.

Looks like the Americans have taken the large SUV sector here in Oz.
__________________
I6 + AWD
Sprintey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 26-02-2019, 10:10 PM   #6
Swordie
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 461
Default Re: Endura vs Acadia

Red vs Blue battle had passion. I can't see passion in the SUVs.
Swordie is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-02-2019, 06:20 AM   #7
roddy1960
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
roddy1960's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: St Marys Tasmania
Posts: 3,556
Default Re: Endura vs Acadia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swordie View Post
Red vs Blue battle had passion. I can't see passion in the SUVs.
It'll be a much less so case at the very least . You're right I think .
roddy1960 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2019, 09:54 PM   #8
Ben73
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Ben73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: NSW
Posts: 4,343
Default Re: Endura vs Acadia

The Arcadia would look amazing if it was 2009. Unfortunately in 2019 it's very basic and old looking.
I'd pick the Endura any day based on that alone.
Ben73 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 03-03-2019, 05:15 PM   #9
janddbone
B1 - J & D Services
Donating Member1
 
janddbone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brim, Victoria
Posts: 1,635
Default Re: Endura vs Acadia

Yep Arcadia should have been the Captiva originally!
__________________
Mr. Brett Johnstone.
2002 Ford Laser
2000 Ford Falcon Wagon Egas
1999 Subaru Imprezza Sportwagon
1998 Holden Suburban 2500
1995 Land Rover Discovery TDI
1994 XG XR6 Longreach
1983 Holden Rodeo
1975 Datsun 120Y wagon
1970 MG Midget
1967 Rover 2000TC
Soon: Model T.
janddbone is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-03-2019, 07:20 PM   #10
boss351290
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,017
Default Re: Endura vs Acadia

That 3.6 gm engine is a real piece of garbage. Very powerful and revs good when new but as soon as they hit about 150000kms they fall apart. Have seen many engine rebuilds and swaps with those low kilometres
boss351290 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 09:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL