January 2017 new car sales figures

unkey · 08-02-2017, 07:49 AM

I wonder if anyone has details ?
Russ maybe....

Rob 351 · 08-02-2017, 08:02 AM

1. mazda 3
2. Corolla
3. Hilux
4. Ranger
5. I30
6. Commodore
7. CX5
8. XTrail
9.Tucson
10. CX3

**Sorted** · 08-02-2017, 09:57 AM

The more I see FGX's the more I like them.

Ford 5912 up 7.4 per cent

Large — 2208:
Commodore (1960),
Toyota Aurion (95),
Ford Falcon (73)

Medium — 1997:
Toyota Camry (580),
Ford Mondeo (251),
Mazda 6 (250)

Entry Sports — 1349:
Ford Mustang (583),
Hyundai Veloster (162),
BMW 2 Series (148)

4×2 Utes — 2602:
Toyota HiLux (738),
Ford Ranger (401)
Mazda BT-50 (385)

4×4 Utes — 9636:
Ford Ranger (2221),
Toyota HiLux (1964)
Holden Colorado (1333)

**Giant Cranium** · 08-02-2017, 10:07 AM

Ford need to do a low ride auto ranger. Hilux is the only one that offers low autos. If they do they would overtake hilux comfortably

Nikked · 08-02-2017, 10:07 AM

I'm actually glad the Mondeo is matching the Mazda 6...considering the Mazda markets it more then Ford markets the Mondeo...room for improvement there however.

Vesper Martini · 08-02-2017, 10:08 AM

Say what you like, Commodore still does really well, big changes coming me thinks

Blue_XR · 08-02-2017, 10:25 AM

I wonder if the Mondeo will pick up sales now that the Falcon has gone.

csv8 · 09-02-2017, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue_XR

I wonder if the Mondeo will pick up sales now that the Falcon has gone.

Don't think so : If people are looking at a towing capacity : Mondeo can only tow 1600kgs.. Falcon is 2300kgs...but we can only hope ....

Blue_XR · 09-02-2017, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csv8

Don't think so : If people are looking at a towing capacity : Mondeo can only tow 1600kgs.. Falcon is 2300kgs...but we can only hope ....

I thought the towing market moved to SUV's and Dual Cabs now?

Especially with families that have two cars, one can be the run around and the other the 'duties' vehicle.

suttoo · 09-02-2017, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csv8

Don't think so : If people are looking at a towing capacity : Mondeo can only tow 1600kgs.. Falcon is 2300kgs...but we can only hope ....

Well we just sold a new Mondeo to a customer that has always bought Falcons. Doesn't tow. So maybe they will

mike_nofx · 10-02-2017, 09:04 AM

Ok, I get that this is a Ford forum but why do we pray for the success of Ford after the end of Australian manufacturing?

I know manufacturing will likely never return here, but why prove to Ford they made the right choice and that something like a Mondeo is a suitable replacement for a Falcon?

Vesper Martini · 10-02-2017, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csv8

Don't think so : If people are looking at a towing capacity : Mondeo can only tow 1600kgs.. Falcon is 2300kgs...but we can only hope ....

You keep bringing this up, but who in their right mind went out to buy a Falcon to tow over 2 tonne anyway when they are so many more capable vehicles these days.

Mondeo with its 1600 capacity is plenty for the average 6x4 trailer they will likely ever tow

4dlvr · 10-02-2017, 10:14 AM

id go out on a limb and say that 80% of falcon owners will never tow anything.
The Mondeo is a great car and should do well.

csv8 · 10-02-2017, 10:38 AM

Mondeo Sport Turbo V6 2017....http://www.caradvice.com.au/407653/2...-detroit-show/

**Polyal** · 10-02-2017, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Mondeo Sport Turbo V6 2017....http://www.caradvice.com.au/407653/2...-detroit-show/

Not really liking the style path they are following, its edgy but rounded?

Smoke Pursuit · 10-02-2017, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

Ford need to do a low ride auto ranger. Hilux is the only one that offers low autos. If they do they would overtake hilux comfortably

Ford aren't interested in low riders. The dollars are in the big ones.

All of Fords single cab utes are overpriced for a reason.

Smoke Pursuit · 10-02-2017, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csv8

Don't think so : If people are looking at a towing capacity : Mondeo can only tow 1600kgs.. Falcon is 2300kgs...but we can only hope ....

Yeh and that's the only reason why people bought Falcons....

Hows your Daewoo going?

csv8 · 10-02-2017, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Yeh and that's the only reason why people bought Falcons....

Hows your Daewoo going?

I don't have a Daewoo!!! its a GM/Holden MY 16 Captiva LTZ Diesel. Its done 12,800kms in 9 months (first service) 1,100kms towing a 1.8tonne caravan in summer heat..engine temp 93-103deg. Hasn't missed a beat...
Around town its getting 9.3l/100kms...towing its 11.9l/100kms. Empties the tank in 400kms towing,, reversing camera is great for hitching up!! Thanks for asking....

Wretched · 10-02-2017, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polyal

Not really liking the style path they are following, its edgy but rounded?

It looks like it was styled for the US market (which it was). Don't like it.

Vesper Martini · 10-02-2017, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csv8

I don't have a Daewoo!!! its a GM/Holden MY 16 Captiva LTZ Diesel. Its done 12,800kms in 9 months (first service) 1,100kms towing a 1.8tonne caravan in summer heat..engine temp 93-103deg. Hasn't missed a beat...
Around town its getting 9.3l/100kms...towing its 11.9l/100kms. Empties the tank in 400kms towing,, reversing camera is great for hitching up!! Thanks for asking....

So you yourself have bought an SUV for towing, why have a crack at the Mondeo?

csv8 · 10-02-2017, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

So you yourself have bought an SUV for towing, why have a crack at the Mondeo?

I wasn't having a crack at the Mondeo...People used to buy the Falcon because it can tow 2300kg..I did, years ago.....people would buy the Falcon because it was a sedan not a SUV, that has towing capabilities...Now people have no choice but go to SUV's....and us old farts find getting in and out of SUV's easier on our joints !! sedans these days are too low to the ground. Nothing wrong with the Mondeo,,,great car for the class...

Smoke Pursuit · 10-02-2017, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csv8

I don't have a Daewoo!!! its a GM/Holden MY 16 Captiva LTZ Diesel. Its done 12,800kms in 9 months (first service) 1,100kms towing a 1.8tonne caravan in summer heat..engine temp 93-103deg. Hasn't missed a beat...
Around town its getting 9.3l/100kms...towing its 11.9l/100kms. Empties the tank in 400kms towing,, reversing camera is great for hitching up!! Thanks for asking....

Don't you read any online reviews?? Its a Daewoo underneath, built in South Korea. Well known in the industry for all its faults.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Captiva

BENT_8 · 10-02-2017, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csv8

I don't have a Daewoo!!! its a GM/Holden MY 16 Captiva LTZ Diesel. Its done 12,800kms in 9 months (first service) 1,100kms towing a 1.8tonne caravan in summer heat..engine temp 93-103deg. Hasn't missed a beat...
Around town its getting 9.3l/100kms...towing its 11.9l/100kms. Empties the tank in 400kms towing,, reversing camera is great for hitching up!! Thanks for asking....

But that's just a Daewoo with Holden badges really, like a Holden with Chev badges, isn't it??

**Giant Cranium** · 10-02-2017, 12:27 PM

poor csv8. every month the same sledging.

simon varley · 10-02-2017, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_nofx

Ok, I get that this is a Ford forum but why do we pray for the success of Ford after the end of Australian manufacturing?

I know manufacturing will likely never return here, but why prove to Ford they made the right choice and that something like a Mondeo is a suitable replacement for a Falcon?

because every ford car that is sold here gets dollars into Ford of Australia that funds the future development work that 1500 engineers in Geelong and Broadmeadows are doing

tranquilized · 10-02-2017, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Ford aren't interested in low riders. The dollars are in the big ones.

All of Fords single cab utes are overpriced for a reason.

This has to be a golden era for all the players in the dual/single cab ute segment. The profit margins on these things must be astronomical!

The development that goes into them couldn't be a fraction of what goes into a normal passenger car. Old school tried and tested ladder frame, whack a masculine body on top, pull some tech of the corporate shelves - done! Driving dynamics and handling? Doesn't matter! The overall spec level is down as well, drum brakes one the back, spartan interiors. They're all built in Thailand, shipped over here with zero taxes, and they still cost close to $60k. The new V6 Amarok is pushing $80k!

Plus we're talking about the highest selling segment = mega mega huge crazy profits all round!

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 10-02-2017, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csv8

Don't think so : If people are looking at a towing capacity : Mondeo can only tow 1600kgs.. Falcon is 2300kgs...but we can only hope ....

My Falcon does not even have a tow bar. The Tez on the other hand.....

Smoke Pursuit · 10-02-2017, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranquilized

This has to be a golden era for all the players in the dual/single cab ute segment. The profit margins on these things must be astronomical!

The development that goes into them couldn't be a fraction of what goes into a normal passenger car. Old school tried and tested ladder frame, whack a masculine body on top, pull some tech of the corporate shelves - done! Driving dynamics and handling? Doesn't matter! The overall spec level is down as well, drum brakes one the back, spartan interiors. They're all built in Thailand, shipped over here with zero taxes, and they still cost close to $60k. The new V6 Amarok is pushing $80k!

Plus we're talking about the highest selling segment = mega mega huge crazy profits all round!

Depends how you look at it I guess. The Ranger is class leading and probably has the most R&D of them all.

They still all should be 10k cheaper if you ask me based on what you get.

Nikked · 10-02-2017, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_nofx

Ok, I get that this is a Ford forum but why do we pray for the success of Ford after the end of Australian manufacturing?

I know manufacturing will likely never return here, but why prove to Ford they made the right choice and that something like a Mondeo is a suitable replacement for a Falcon?

Oh, for the love of god....

The right choice was proven when people stopped buying Falcons...

**Fordman1** · 10-02-2017, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranquilized

This has to be a golden era for all the players in the dual/single cab ute segment. The profit margins on these things must be astronomical!

The development that goes into them couldn't be a fraction of what goes into a normal passenger car. Old school tried and tested ladder frame, whack a masculine body on top, pull some tech of the corporate shelves - done! Driving dynamics and handling? Doesn't matter! The overall spec level is down as well, drum brakes one the back, spartan interiors. They're all built in Thailand, shipped over here with zero taxes, and they still cost close to $60k. The new V6 Amarok is pushing $80k!

Plus we're talking about the highest selling segment = mega mega huge crazy profits all round!

The driving dynamics and tuning of the suspension is really very good ( all points considering ) in the best rated of these 'utes'.

I've driven a new Ranger and it isn't a bad daily drive ! It's no Territory, but for many, it'll do just fine.

These body on frame vehicles have come a long way in 10 years.

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