Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 17-01-2013, 10:21 PM   #1
crunchbunty
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 85
Default Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

I have a set of Simmons B45's. They are 15x7 and 15x8. I put a full set of matching tyres on them with the view to selling them. They are are good nick and undamaged etc. Anyway, I answered an ad I saw for a bloke looking for simmons wheels.

He came over, admitted that they were in good nick and then offered me $100! Each individual tyre was worth more than that! He told me that no one wants simmons wheels any more and that he only buys them for the outer rims because his get damaged.

I looked on Ebay and found an identical set (same gunmetal grey, ford stud pattern, new tyres etc) and they are asking $2850. They haven't sold ....

I was hoping for $1200 for them. I thought that was a good price considering the tyres, chrome wheel nuts, lock nuts and everything I was going to include with the deal.

Am I setting myself up for disappointment? I understand that many people go for bigger and bigger wheels (18's, 19's . . . .22's!), so I can understand if no one wants them.

When I was a young fella, nothing was cooler than a set of Simmons wheels on a GT (and later ESP). Am I living in the past, or is there still a market for them out there?

crunchbunty is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 17-01-2013, 10:24 PM   #2
99AUXR
Brad
 
99AUXR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 5,827
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Installing starter motor advice on ba / bf 6cyc Falcon. 
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

There will be a small market your trying to sell to so you just have to wait unfortunately.
99AUXR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-01-2013, 10:28 PM   #3
SSD-85
Donating Member
Donating Member1
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,142
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Simmons wheels are still cool.

People are just asking the Earth for them....thus the lack of interest.
SSD-85 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
5 users like this post:
Old 17-01-2013, 10:28 PM   #4
crunchbunty
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 85
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

I don't mind waiting, I just don't want to waste my time. Like trying to sell ice to eskimos . . . .
crunchbunty is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-01-2013, 10:29 PM   #5
crunchbunty
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 85
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Is $1200 too much, considering tyres, nuts etc?

They are $3300 for a set of bare rims (new), but that is EBAY, too. A lot of dreamers on there . . .
crunchbunty is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-01-2013, 10:32 PM   #6
gcg2503
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 10,840
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Always adding valued comments,  never involved in any disputes. A credit to this forum. 
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Are the set on eBay 15x7 and 15x8?

Or are the rears 15x10 on eBay?

Big difference if that is the case in my opinion

$1200 is a VERY fair price
gcg2503 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
4 users like this post:
Old 17-01-2013, 10:51 PM   #7
Fordman
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Fordman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,303
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Quote:
Originally Posted by gcg2503 View Post
Are the set on eBay 15x7 and 15x8?

Or are the rears 15x10 on eBay?

Big difference if that is the case in my opinion

$1200 is a VERY fair price

I agree. I dont really see a whole lot of young people in to them but that Gen x early y group of people are mad about them.
Fordman is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-01-2013, 10:56 PM   #8
pauljh74
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
pauljh74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 2,602
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Quote:
Originally Posted by crunchbunty View Post
He told me that no one wants simmons wheels any more and that he only buys them for the outer rims because his get damaged.
I'd say $1200 is quite reasonable for a quality set of rims and new tyres. Of course he'd say that rubbish - he's trying to get em cheap.

But I'd say the demand for that size is diminishing - no Falcons past the E series would want 15" rims.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Webber
Not bad for a #2 driver
Mark Webber after winning the 2010 British Grand Prix.
pauljh74 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-01-2013, 10:58 PM   #9
EF_Shark
Regular Member
 
EF_Shark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Ballarat Vic
Posts: 37
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

I have a set on my car but they were on it when I bought it. I've had offers for them a few times of about a grand. 16inch grey centres 225's on the front and 245's rear. Biggest you can fit on an EF withpout pumping the guards.
__________________
EF Falcon Gunmetal Grey 4.0 Manual, Heavy duty Clutch, 2549 Crow cam, Stainless Extractors, J3 chip, High flow cat with 3 inch exhaust, Rolling on 16 Inch B45 Simmons 225/50 front 245/70 rear .
EF_Shark is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-01-2013, 10:59 PM   #10
gcg2503
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 10,840
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Always adding valued comments,  never involved in any disputes. A credit to this forum. 
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

16s are less desirable than 15s because the 16s have the stepped lip
gcg2503 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-01-2013, 11:00 PM   #11
GTP370
2005 BA II GTP
 
GTP370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,676
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Excellent breakdown of costs associated with importing a pre-89 car from the U.S.  Very helpful to others and at least two other guys will use the provided info to make their dreams reality.. 
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

I like them...either on old or modern

GTP370 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-01-2013, 11:01 PM   #12
crunchbunty
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 85
Talking Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Quote:
Originally Posted by gcg2503 View Post
Are the set on eBay 15x7 and 15x8?

Or are the rears 15x10 on eBay?

Big difference if that is the case in my opinion

$1200 is a VERY fair price
Nah, 15x7 ad 15x8 - identical to mine. Just had a look, they're down to $2500.

I'm glad to hear that you think $1200 is a fair price. They cost me a lot back in the day (before kids and mortgage!)
crunchbunty is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-01-2013, 11:02 PM   #13
crunchbunty
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 85
Wink Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GTP370 View Post
I like them...either on old or modern

image
Yep, still nothing cooler in my eyes than Simmons on a GT! Even if it is a new one
crunchbunty is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 17-01-2013, 11:03 PM   #14
EF_Shark
Regular Member
 
EF_Shark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Ballarat Vic
Posts: 37
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Really?!? i've had offers on them because they are 16's!
Judge for yourself.
__________________
EF Falcon Gunmetal Grey 4.0 Manual, Heavy duty Clutch, 2549 Crow cam, Stainless Extractors, J3 chip, High flow cat with 3 inch exhaust, Rolling on 16 Inch B45 Simmons 225/50 front 245/70 rear .
EF_Shark is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-01-2013, 12:58 AM   #15
XEESP351
Starter Motor
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

I put these on my ESP October last year 16x8 and 16x9..Bought them off Ebay for $1300 fully reburshied with no tyres though..Im only a youngish bloke but they still appeal i think..Everyone loves the old school look and simmons and X series just go together..Wide tyres are hard to get in 16 inch i was lucky finding the 255's..

XEESP351 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-01-2013, 04:48 AM   #16
xxx000
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,874
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

B45's are the coolest old school wheels around imho

your price seems fair, the market is small due to less and less old school cars being around
xxx000 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-01-2013, 07:24 AM   #17
Bearman
Moderator Ford Coupe Club
 
Bearman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Vic
Posts: 3,905
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Quote:
Originally Posted by gcg2503 View Post
16s are less desirable than 15s because the 16s have the stepped lip
I reckon 16" Simmons look great. I don't think the stepped lip detracts but I will qualify that with this - anything less than 8" wide makes it look like there's stuff all dish.

The biggest thing is the lack of wide rubber in 16". I'm running 255/50x16 obsolete Hankooks on the back (16x9 rims). If I need to replace them that tyre size is really hard to get. There's nothing bigger available. Mind you, these 255's are as wide as any 265/50x15 I've seen. They are very generously sized.
__________________
Mitsubishi ASX Auto, White - Daily Commuter
XC Fairmont Coupe, 351 4spd, Graphite Grey - The Antidote

http://www.fordcoupeclub.org

"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" George Harrison 2001.
Bearman is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-01-2013, 07:49 AM   #18
OwnTheRoad
T Series Club AUST.
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Western port Victoria......
Posts: 1,788
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

I had the 16 inch 8s and 9s on my XY with grey argent centers nothing looks better IMO , tyres selection was pretty limiting though . Plenty of people wanted to buy them too .
__________________
T series club Australia .Find us here as well . www.tseriesclub.org
OwnTheRoad AKA FTEMEL
OwnTheRoad is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-01-2013, 08:23 AM   #19
turbodewd
FG Falcon fan
 
turbodewd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Canberra, ACT
Posts: 913
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Simmons are the best looking wheels Ive ever seen. Ive always wanted a custom painted hot orange center put on a white car.
turbodewd is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 18-01-2013, 08:46 AM   #20
jphanna
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jphanna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 808
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Simmonds were the wheels only the 'well off' could afford in the 80's etc. they were the trend setters for sure. they still look COOL
__________________
BMW 125I
Kia Seltos
Suzuki SV650
FG XR6 (son)
jphanna is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-01-2013, 08:53 AM   #21
Uwish
Regular Member
 
Uwish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sydney
Posts: 292
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Still a good looking wheel.
Your price seems fair
Uwish is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-01-2013, 09:58 AM   #22
302 XC
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,527
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Simmons look good on any X series
1200 with new boots sounds fair,but as others mentioned pricy in their day and looking at whats around out there,its a limited market
Most young blokes want those absolutely hideous chrome 12 slotters, get a set for a hundred or so,i know not a 15 " , but thats the first pick,followed by snow flakes, then globes
Pick up a set of 15 " globes rather cheaply if you look hard enuf
Once tyres are fitted regardless of Ks travelled, there not "new" anymore
OP,
Ill give ya $100 each for the rims ,you keep the tyres ........
302 XC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-01-2013, 10:00 AM   #23
RedHotGT
Long live the Falcon GT
 
RedHotGT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Victoria
Posts: 1,630
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Well - here is a photo of my old EB XR6 - which I loved...



Had Simmons B45s (15x7) and I reckon it looked awesome...

This car was just for sale again - for $1400.00 - and I MISSED IT because I was sitting on my hands!!!

So - to the OP - Simmons are great - and don't let anyone tell you otherwise!!!
__________________
RedHotGT is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 18-01-2013, 10:39 AM   #24
stevanford
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 831
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

I love them. I'd buy them now if I had a car to put them on.
stevanford is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-01-2013, 10:55 AM   #25
XA GS Ute
Regular Member
 
XA GS Ute's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 149
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Fair price, the fella that offered you $100 would've just bought them & advertised them for $1200 anyway. The spare outers story is just crap.
XA GS Ute is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 18-01-2013, 11:02 AM   #26
350125GO
67 Galaxie Hardtop
 
350125GO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Penrith, NSW
Posts: 397
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Still cool - look a bit bodge after about the EA/B/D series imo. The Simmons OMs are the ones to get imo. $100 - hes having a laugh surely?
350125GO is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-01-2013, 11:38 AM   #27
The Yeti
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
The Yeti's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: In my happy place
Posts: 5,432
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

with the tyres how old are they? if they have been sitting for some years they will be NBG
__________________
Pariahs C.C.
What could possibly go wrong

I post images with postimg.cc (so I don’t forget)
The Yeti is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-01-2013, 11:51 AM   #28
jamies
Regular Member
 
jamies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Goldcoast
Posts: 339
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bearman View Post
I reckon 16" Simmons look great. I don't think the stepped lip detracts but I will qualify that with this - anything less than 8" wide makes it look like there's stuff all dish.

The biggest thing is the lack of wide rubber in 16". I'm running 255/50x16 obsolete Hankooks on the back (16x9 rims). If I need to replace them that tyre size is really hard to get. There's nothing bigger available. Mind you, these 255's are as wide as any 265/50x15 I've seen. They are very generously sized.
I reckon 16" Simmons are great too. I've had two Esp's with them, my Xe Esp had 16x8 and 16x9 v5's with 225x50x16's on the front and 245x50x16's on the rear. They where customised off set specially ordered in to fit an Xe so they had a deep dish and on a red and Black Esp with gun metal simmons awesome. My Xd Esp had 16x10 and 16x12's on the rear the wheels came of a touring car. Gold P5's with gold centres on a Hermitage red Xd = tough. I found the major issue was tyre's so I had to run 255x50x16's all round.
jamies is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-01-2013, 12:01 PM   #29
FGII-XR6
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
FGII-XR6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Salamander Bay
Posts: 5,427
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

The value of anything is simply what someone is prepared to pay for it. the wheels are good for later X series cars ( XA XB XC) and if you find the right buyer you should get somewhere near your price
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Everyone starts off with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the experience bag before the luck bag is empty.

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

Start a new career as a bus driver

Rides:
FG2 XR6 stock at this stage but a very nice ride

xc 4 DOOR X CHASER 5.8 UNDER RESTO
FGII-XR6 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-01-2013, 12:23 PM   #30
Andy777
Regular Member
 
Andy777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 201
Default Re: Are Simmons wheels still cool or am I old?

the guy who offered you 100 bucks is just going to through them on ebay and hope to get 1000 for them anyways

your price is fair, on fee bay late last year my mate sold a set of v5's in ford stud pattern, tyres were average, needed tlc and got 950, we were laughing because they sold for more then my fg xr6 turbo wheels that were in perfect condition with 80% rubber
Andy777 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 06:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL