FGXR6T vs. VFSS

[Trump]

I don't doubt it for a second Adrenaline.

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by GT-spec15

What's up with the Falcon's high seating position though?

I like a nice low slung seat.

once again...im 6.2 and I have no idea what everyone is talking about.....seriously. My wife is shortish...and she has to have the seat at its maximum height adjustment.....so theres some bogas visual perceptions to this whole seat issue i swear.

[fordomatic]

WOW holden must have made yet another "Press Special" SSV

[FalconXV]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

once again...im 6.2 and I have no idea what everyone is talking about.....seriously. My wife is shortish...and she has to have the seat at its maximum height adjustment.....so theres some bogas visual perceptions to this whole seat issue i swear.

Maybe its people with longer legs or something. The interior of FG definately feels more claustrophobic than the BF, mostly because of the angle of the centre console and I've seen alot of people hit their legs on the steering column that were fine in a BF.
The seat height thing is well documented too, I think I read on here about a company that fits lower rails or something to address this.

[mik]

Would be more interested to see how it runs over the qaurter.

[chris0]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

once again...im 6.2 and I have no idea what everyone is talking about.....seriously. My wife is shortish...and she has to have the seat at its maximum height adjustment.....so theres some bogas visual perceptions to this whole seat issue i swear.

I'm with you. I'm 6.2 and 95kg, and haven't come across a bad seating positon since owning my FG. The only thing I can think of is that all the comments on the 'low' steering wheel is more apparent in the auto (usually all reviews are of the auto) because you could potentially have your left leg up or back towards the drivers seat more often then in a manual? But for me, I find it quite comfy being 'closer' to the steering wheel.

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

I wonder if Holden are doing press specials again? Performance Drive got the SSV Redline from 0-100 in 4.8 seconds. That's quicker than they managed in a GT R Spec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUQK58XyGZU

Imagine what the press special GTS will do.......

[Kable72]

Originally Posted by chris0

I'm with you. I'm 6.2 and 95kg, and haven't come across a bad seating positon since owning my FG. The only thing I can think of is that all the comments on the 'low' steering wheel is more apparent in the auto (usually all reviews are of the auto) because you could potentially have your left leg up or back towards the drivers seat more often then in a manual? But for me, I find it quite comfy being 'closer' to the steering wheel.

With you guys here, 6 2 but only 75 kilos (stfu >.>) and I have no idea what there is to complain about?

[chris0]

Originally Posted by ESP

Imagine what the press special GTS will do.......

...the clutch

[Kable72]

Originally Posted by chris0

...the clutch

Oh god I am so done. That comment. Why can I only thank once.

[KW XRT]

I have to be honest I haven't compared these two personally but from the footage I believe the falcon wins on the interior and styling hands down The commadore is a bucket.Not that I like the falcon model that much but compare it to the ugly commadore that has a horrid bonnet and a distracting what looks to be a touch screen and crappy interior.Lets face it if you were not aware the falcon was dated design wise you wouldn't pick it.Except for the touch screen which should be illegal in my opinion anyway

[AndyXR6T]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

I wonder if Holden are doing press specials again? Performance Drive got the SSV Redline from 0-100 in 4.8 seconds. That's quicker than they managed in a GT R Spec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUQK58XyGZU

Not trying to be a sour puss but that needle is all over the shop... Hardly looks accurate

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by AndyXR6T

Not trying to be a sour puss but that needle is all over the shop... Hardly looks accurate

Something is definitely off. The standard SS went 5.1, I don't think anybody has ever tested an SS that quick in history. The SV6 went 5.9... get real.

[99AUXR]

With the XR6T pulling it.....

[Rodge]

Originally Posted by chris0

...the clutch

They'll probably use the auto to get a faster time.

[The Monty]

Using a stopwatch over 10 attempts, best I could manage was 5.3 in that vid. Averaged 5.5...

[gtfpv]

how awesome . an SSV that might match or better its supercharged GTS big brother at 1/2 the price . too cool .

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

how awesome . an SSV that might match or better its supercharged GTS . big brother at 1/2 the price . too cool .

Egg on faces then if the "press special" GTS cant do it 3.XX seconds.

[Trump]

Originally Posted by ESP

Egg on faces then if the "press special" GTS cant do it 3.XX seconds.

It would need AWD to be able to reel of a sub 4 sec 0-100km/h time.

(looks under the GTS)

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

It would need AWD to be able to reel of a sub 4 sec 0-100km/h time.

(looks under the GTS)

Speedo measures wheel rotation - right ?
So just like in the vid- all you need to see is the speedo needle hitting 100 in warp speed. For all we know, it sat there wheel spinning but was physically doing 60 klmh........lol

All these speed tests are bs until you start seeing repeatable real track times.

Mind you....if the GTS can reel off a fairdinkum 4 sec time....that is formidable.

[Trump]

If it can do a genuine sub 4 second time, my hat would be tipped and I would be putting the coins away to get one in a few years time.

[GQ_Smooth]

I cannot comprehend how it can do a sub 4sec 0-100 time in full road trim (factory tyres, all seats nothing stripped from the car).4.5-4.9 sec 0-100 time would be very respectable and what I would expect.

[Rodge]

Originally Posted by GQ_Smooth

I cannot comprehend how it can do a sub 4sec 0-100 time in full road trim (factory tyres, all seats nothing stripped from the car).4.5-4.9 sec 0-100 time would be very respectable and what I would expect.

Stock R Spec has done 4.5 seconds. Taking my blue glasses off why wouldn't an intercooled car with 20 inch rims, better tyres, specially designed half shafts to reduce axle tramp, 4 way switchable dynamic stability control and perhaps most importantly 430 kw and 740 nm's stock do better ?

[fanboi]

Originally Posted by Rodge

Retail price on the XR6T needs to be cut immediatly to $41,990 to match the SS.

i only paid 38 for mine

[austyphoon]

Originally Posted by Rodge

Stock R Spec has done 4.5 seconds. Taking my blue glasses off why wouldn't an intercooled car with 20 inch rims, better tyres, specially designed half shafts to reduce axle tramp, 4 way switchable dynamic stability control and perhaps most importantly 430 kw and 740 nm's stock do better ?

Yes, it HAS done 4.5secs. Whether the conditions at that time were extremely favourable for a good time we'll never know.

In direct comparisons it has not achieved that time again and was actually slower than the SRT8.

Anyway, who cares about 0-100km/h times??? With the dollars you're spending 1/4 mile and track times are a better indication of the cars performance.

[GQ_Smooth]

Originally Posted by Rodge

Stock R Spec has done 4.5 seconds. Taking my blue glasses off why wouldn't an intercooled car with 20 inch rims, better tyres, specially designed half shafts to reduce axle tramp, 4 way switchable dynamic stability control and perhaps most importantly 430 kw and 740 nm's stock do better ?

Rodge:
You'd know better than me, it's not the lack of power, but mechanical grip and weight to get the traction in order to get off the line that quickly. If it can genuinely so a sub 4 sec, it will be the performance bargain of all time, 100K for that performance is quicker than the M5 and AMG.

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by Rodge

why wouldn't an intercooled car with 20 inch rims, better tyres, specially designed half shafts to reduce axle tramp, 4 way switchable dynamic stability control and perhaps most importantly 430 kw and 740 nm's stock do better ?

Same reason why that BRABUS S series V12 Monster merc ( 800Hp ) and (1,047 lb-ft), isnt exponentially quicker than its "factory" AMG stablemate.....It just cant get its power to the ground. The gizmos keep intervening to keep everything in check.

So whilst it may be quicker than its cheaper SS and R8 brothers.........i wouldnt expect the GTS to be substantially quicker. But any big boofy 4 door sedan that can do sub 5 sec 0-100 is incredible regardless and deserves respect.

[Rodge]

Originally Posted by GQ_Smooth

Rodge:
You'd know better than me, it's not the lack of power, but mechanical grip and weight to get the traction in order to get off the line that quickly. If it can genuinely so a sub 4 sec, it will be the performance bargain of all time, 100K for that performance is quicker than the M5 and AMG.

Comes with launch control too, (which is cheating a bit I reckon), but yeah I'd be gobsmacked if it went under 4.0, but I think circa 4.3 is do-able with good conditions but its the overall technical aspects of the car that impress me TBH. 390mm disc's for goodness sake and they're claiming that's bigger brakes than V8 supercars, so yeah with the torque vectoring, massive brakes, 4 way swithable DSC, new upgraded magnetic ride control / adjustable suspension incl Track mode and decent sized tyres, diff, engine oil and gearbox coolers I'd expect this thing will be a barrell load of fun on track days. Anyway that's enough... I'm tired of pumping the other teams tyres already.
SC FPV and F6 are bloody brilliant cars for far more reasonable money and turbo 6's are the high performance bargain of the century in my opinion.

Back on topic it'll be interesting to see if Ford squeeze some more power out of the turbo six with the 2014 update, not like they need too as it already spanks the SS for performance, but why not rub some salt into the wound for good measure ?

[ivorya]

I can't believe, Holden left Masking tape on the seats.......

[Bossxr8]

The GTS is a heavy bugger though, pushing 1900kg with all those coolers and heavy duty bits and pieces.