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Old 15-07-2008, 06:03 PM   #91
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Meant to throw this in the above post, sorry.

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Old 15-07-2008, 09:57 PM   #92
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I'll say it; Victoria 'deserves' a 90km/h maximum:-)))

It'd vote for it too, guaranteed....
Please don't. I follow your posts and have a lot of respect for your opinion. I drive in the UK a lot and always cringe when I get back home. I would prefer you continue to try to imrove the driving skills of all Australians. You clearly know what you are talking about/
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Old 15-07-2008, 11:06 PM   #93
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IMO, you've comitted the lesser of the two evils. I would pretty much do the same in a similar situation. A short squirt on overtake will result in a safer trip than being stuck behind possibly the most frustrating of all drivers on the road. I've been in situations where the guy behind me while I've been behind one of these drivers is right up my clacka due to frustration.
Bah!!!.... try telling the cop who took my licence away for 6 months because of this very thing. I was the "worst driver" on the roads at the time because some clown doing 80 in a 100 zone decided to speed up just as I pulled out to overtake him, leaving me high and dry on the wrong side of the road. Quick squirt later to get past safely and I'm sitting there with a ticket and 6 months of public transport for my "safe manoeuver". :
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Old 15-07-2008, 11:43 PM   #94
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funny that same thing happened to me i was behind a truck i pulled out to overtake then to see the truck bieng held up by a corrola . Quick squirt to get back in to safety .and was pinged at 135k but the police man redused it to 124km so i kept my license .
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Damn, atleast on the freeway in SA we have signs on the side of the road KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING!...

Its funny, becasue I tell my gf off for doing things whilst she is drivng and she wont listen to a work that I say... i've for 4 years driving experience, she has 6 months, and thinks she knows everything and is a perfect driver... She says I dont know what im talking about because i lost my licence before..
lol skotty most states have those signs it just comes down to the ppl who obey them and who dont, had that happen to me tonight 2 cars in the right hand lane making it look like peak hour was packed by doing 75 in a 90 zone, as we were going around the bend on the expressway i noticed that there was no1 in front of them and the whole left lane was free, knobs lol i wish coppers would get off their bums & book ppl for it...& ur girlfriend is just confident that will fade when she slips up and realises she isnt invinceable & doesnt know everything.

and dude just tell her if she cant take criticism and realise shes being a pain and her instructor missed out on a vital part of hwy driving then shes not too clever & u shouldnt be scared to voice ur opinion.
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funny that same thing happened to me i was behind a truck i pulled out to overtake then to see the truck bieng held up by a corrola . Quick squirt to get back in to safety .and was pinged at 135k but the police man redused it to 124km so i kept my license .

I have to say the ruling that you can't speed up whilst overtaking is BS.
Its a safer thing to do, if you over take someone doing 95 and your doing 100km/h ecspecially a B-Double or Road Train it takes a long time and isnt real safe.

That rule should be looked at but never will.

Mate got pinged for it a year ago when going down to Adelaide overtook so VS SS in his VT SS he was doing 90 as soon as we got next to him he went to 100 then followed us to 110 so my mate decided he to give it and within a second at 160 and passed copper got us not the VS .

He only pinged us at 110 as he DID see the situation.
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Meant to throw this in the above post, sorry.

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I was probably a bit over the top with my response, my apologies, but the freeway is rarely like that when I am driving on it- easier to stay right then changing lanes every 5 seconds.

This would be a more realistic depection of the freeway when I drive on it.
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Old 16-07-2008, 10:07 AM   #98
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Wow I got scared there for a second lol :P

Nah I dont intentionally want to anger people I was meaning like if I was in the right hand lane and was over taking should I really pull back into the left even if im catching up to another group of cars ahead to overtake which are about 50m up from me.

Remember I'm driving a Diesel HiLux at this time so catching the speed is a hard job so once on a roll you wanna stay on the roll
sorry plugger.travelling at 110 kmph will take you around three seconds to travel 50 meters so should be the time to pull out for an overtake,so like I said earlier you are on the overtake.I dont know why aza thinks this is contraticting my earlier post.how long does he thinks it takes to travel 50 meters at 110.anybody like to give their estimates on this?
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sorry plugger.travelling at 110 kmph will take you around three seconds to travel 50 meters so should be the time to pull out for an overtake,so like I said earlier you are on the overtake.I dont know why aza thinks this is contraticting my earlier post.how long does he thinks it takes to travel 50 meters at 110.anybody like to give their estimates on this?
110ks and hour equals 110,000 meters per hour which equals 1833 meters per minute or 30.5 meters per sec. Now if the car behind was traveling at 120k's per hour .... ah forget the calculations just use a bit of common sense, if you are fast approaching a car/truck/pigeon in the left hand lane and can easily overtake quickly pass then move back over to the left, if you are slowly gaining and the car behind has come up quickly move over and let the faster car through. Most people get annoyed with people that sit in the right hand lane when they have no intention of moving over.
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Mate got pinged for it a year ago when going down to Adelaide overtook so VS SS in his VT SS he was doing 90 as soon as we got next to him he went to 100 then followed us to 110 so my mate decided he to give it and within a second at 160 and passed copper got us not the VS .

He only pinged us at 110 as he DID see the situation.
A monkey just crawled out of my bum and asked if i'd like a cup of tea. I don't feel like drinking tea this morning so i declined.
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Old 16-07-2008, 11:09 AM   #101
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It's alright when you guys are driving what you guys are driving.

But when you driving a HiLux or a slower car getting the speed and momentum again takes a bit ;)

Just think when you see a slower car doing this as getting 10km/h again takes forever in my 4wd Diesel Lux.
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It's alright when you guys are driving what you guys are driving.

But when you driving a HiLux or a slower car getting the speed and momentum again takes a bit ;)

Just think when you see a slower car doing this as getting 10km/h again takes forever in my 4wd Diesel Lux.
Most people are lenient and provided you are making an effort to move over when you can that's fine IMO - its the people that sit side by side on a freeway holding up traffic that annoy me and probably other drivers and make no attempt to move over.
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Most people are lenient and provided you are making an effort to move over when you can that's fine IMO - its the people that sit side by side on a freeway holding up traffic that annoy me and probably other drivers and make no attempt to move over.
Exactly!!! It seems the enivorment of the Highways are a lot different from Darwin to Melbourne/Sydney though :P

Darwin is pretty quite once you get out of the city :P
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A monkey just crawled out of my bum and asked if i'd like a cup of tea. I don't feel like drinking tea this morning so i declined.
Ummm.. O..K?
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A monkey just crawled out of my bum and asked if i'd like a cup of tea. I don't feel like drinking tea this morning so i declined.

How often does this happen?I would probly see a doctor if I were you,that could get quite painfull.
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Oh stop crying ........I stopped driving with a mate because he doesnt see traffic lights...after 3 times and running 3 reds i said....this aint on and aint been with him for 4 years....somehow his never had an accident
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i think this thread should be titled "womens driving in general aarrrgghhhhh!"

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Oh stop crying ........I stopped driving with a mate because he doesnt see traffic lights...after 3 times and running 3 reds i said....this aint on and aint been with him for 4 years....somehow his never had an accident
Lot of drivers like that "never had an accident" No but how many have you caused?
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God's sake grow some balls, tell her off, if she bites back tell her see you later nice knowing you. Just be ruthless.

Harden the FECK UP

It's drivers like this that infuriate me!
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if your in any car and he/she is doing something wrong ...tell them it might save a life maybe even yours .
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Road rule 130

This rule applies to a driver driving on a milti-lane if -
a - The speed limit for the lenth of road is over 80 kph
b - a keep left unless overtaking sign applies to the lenth of the road.

The driver must not dive in the right lane unless:
a - the driver is turning right, or making a U turn and is giving a right hand signal
b - the driver is overtaking
c - a left lane must turn left sign or left traffic lane arrows apply and the driver is not turning left.

That's from the rule book.
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AND that, the ARR 130, has at its absolute source, as part of the Commonwealths contracting obligations; "The United Nations Convention on Road Traffic", which effectively stipulates it so. In this example, for RHD nations.

Rule applies therefore with same effect in GB too, but in relation to three-laned motorways, we - (NSW/GB/HK-ROC/IND/I) encourage/teach folk to use the left-lane 'routinely' -meaning - 'when it is clear', even if one is 'at the speed limit', or above it!

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You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past.

Slow-moving or speed-restricted vehicles should always remain in the left-hand lane of the carriageway unless overtaking.

Now, NSW RTA have signs on its F3 applied for 'heavy vehicles', that effectively mirror this UK rule (See also EU-Continent).
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. any vehicle drawing a trailer

. a goods vehicle with a maximum laden weight exceeding 3.5 tonnes but not exceeding 7.5 tonnes, which is required to be fitted with a speed limiter

. a goods vehicle with a maximum laden weight exceeding 7.5 tonnes

. a passenger vehicle with a maximum laden weight exceeding 7.5 tonnes constructed or adapted to carry more than eight seated passengers in addition to the driver

. a passenger vehicle with a maximum laden weight not exceeding 7.5 tonnes which is constructed or adapted to carry more than eight seated passengers in addition to the driver, which is required to be fitted with a speed limiter
Having stated all that, some state public service employees 'forget' what rule derives from where, and why so in practical application.

Mind you, in VIC 'they' state in relation to freeway driving - 'keep-left' (Road To Solo Driving). And that means, of course, to most VIC folk; that the middle-lane of an empty three-laned section is the left lane:-)

My point being, it really does need to be clarfied beyond that!

Atm - VIC is updating its book, you can expect a new layout. I do NOT expect VIC or QLD to adopt the ARR/UN Convention compliant motorway text or diagram, as used by NSW, for about 3 - 5 years.

Which is why I cringe when I see VIC based and produced TV holiday show hosts - with vision of a nice sedate 120km/h - all whilst camped in the middle-lane of a German autobahn and sprouting something or other about the scenery.....
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Hehe, the other day I was in the passenger seat in my girlfriends car and we approach a T-intersection. Its all clear and shes in a bit of a hurry, she turns hard right and floors the throttle which bags up the inside wheel. She proceeds to explain to me that she hates her car and wants a new one because the revs always go up like that for no reason, and she cant figure out why? (groan). She drives a commodore so who am i to argue?
I explain to her hat shes just ripped a skid and how putting too much load on a tyre (turning and accelerating) causes it to lose traction and she just stares at me blankly.
I just pray that when the inevitable happens, its nothing serious.
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Hehe, the other day I was in the passenger seat in my girlfriends car and we approach a T-intersection. Its all clear and shes in a bit of a hurry, she turns hard right and floors the throttle which bags up the inside wheel. She proceeds to explain to me that she hates her car and wants a new one because the revs always go up like that for no reason, and she cant figure out why? (groan). She drives a commodore so who am i to argue?
I explain to her hat shes just ripped a skid and how putting too much load on a tyre (turning and accelerating) causes it to lose traction and she just stares at me blankly.
I just pray that when the inevitable happens, its nothing serious.
Oh geez you're joking right? Right? : That's downright dangerous if she doesn't know she's breaking traction.
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This is one of the most simle laws that is often neglected. Same really
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Yeah bad rear tyres and she gets really worked up about other peoples driving and then drives like a ****ed off teenager.
Im always on her back about getting new tyres, might just pick up a set of retreads or some cheapys for her which have got to be better.
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Lucky its a commodore on gas so breaking traction is barely that. Other than controlling the throttle she drives ok but its kinda hard in a car with an on/off switch for an accelerator pedal.

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Hehe, the other day I was in the passenger seat in my girlfriends car and we approach a T-intersection. Its all clear and shes in a bit of a hurry, she turns hard right and floors the throttle which bags up the inside wheel. She proceeds to explain to me that she hates her car and wants a new one because the revs always go up like that for no reason, and she cant figure out why? (groan). She drives a commodore so who am i to argue?
I explain to her hat shes just ripped a skid and how putting too much load on a tyre (turning and accelerating) causes it to lose traction and she just stares at me blankly.
I just pray that when the inevitable happens, its nothing serious.
Its a shame I have to share the road with people like this.basically putting people at risk because some people have no idea.like its been said before ,some people just should not have a licence or be on the road.glad I dont have any kids to her,she'd be then putting them at risk too.scary thought.
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mandatory driver education is the answer! like teaching them how to drive. not just quoting the rules to a 16 year old and giving them the keys to some box hyundai or proton.

and on the origional topic i got booked for not keeping left and when i explained to the cop that the suspention in the LTD wasnt up to the task of staying bolted to the car when going 100 in the left lane ( this problem has been rectified) due to the extreamly poor conditions of the road between brisbane and toowoomba (this problem is still a problem) he did let me off. but now the limit on that section of road is 80ks
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mandatory driver education is the answer! like teaching them how to drive. not just quoting the rules to a 16 year old and giving them the keys to some box hyundai or proton.

and on the origional topic i got booked for not keeping left and when i explained to the cop that the suspention in the LTD wasnt up to the task of staying bolted to the car when going 100 in the left lane ( this problem has been rectified) due to the extreamly poor conditions of the road between brisbane and toowoomba (this problem is still a problem) he did let me off. but now the limit on that section of road is 80ks
The unroadworthyness of your car shouldn't be at the detriment to other road users. If your suspension isn't up to the task of driving on sealed roads then it shouldn't be on the road.
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