Census 2016

[mcflux]

I census a great disturbance in this Farce, as if millions of users suddenly timed out in error and were suddenly silenced.

[arronm]

Tomorrow I wont be able to remember where i was yesterday, let alone next month...

[Trump]

Originally Posted by arronm

Tomorrow I wont be able to remember where i was yesterday, let alone next month...

Make it all up, the ABS loves statistical anomalies

[cheap]

Everyone with half an I/T brain saw the Census fiasco coming from miles away. The arrogance of the ABS with their "we have tested the system", "it will perform", "nothing to worry about". These comments do nothing but wave a red flag to every denial of service warrior on the planet.

Rule #1 in I/T, never claim pre-mature success.

Duncan Young, Program Manager 2016 Census. Duncan may soon be looking for a new job.



And don't forget these same people will be safely guarding your personal data

[Trump]

Originally Posted by cheap

Everyone with half an I/T brain saw the Census fiasco coming from miles away. The arrogance of the ABS with their "we have tested the system", "it will perform", "nothing to worry about". These comments do nothing but wave a red flag to every denial of service warrior on the planet.

Rule #1 in I/T, never claim pre-mature success.

Duncan Young, Program Manager 2016 Census. Duncan may soon be looking for a new job.

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And don't forget these same people will be safely guarding your personal data

I sure hope no one ever hires him again in any sort of data retention capacity, hell keep him away from any computer.

[GXL078]

I am tipping that all the guy on here
who claim to have never have enrolled to vote will not be participating.

So did it work? Wife said it was kinda busy when she did it at 10AM.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Apparently site was hacked... Great eh?

[devilcv8]

Originally Posted by arronm

Tomorrow I wont be able to remember where i was yesterday, let alone next month...

wait, I'm sure I filled the census in, didn't I????????
Is it my fault the ABS IT lost my details.

[Falcon SXR8]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Apparently site was hacked... Great eh?

Probably trying to cover up the fact it just crashed as predicted

[Blue Shadow]

Just read that it got hacked 3 times last night. I might as well put my tax file number on face book.

[LG17]

Originally Posted by prydey

agree. as i was filling it out i was thinking that i didn't really give them any new info.

You may not be giving them any new info but what it is, is a "point in time" scenario.

[Dodge]

it got hacked, thats another Gov job well done anyone that did get the details logged now has their info sent to hackers, or was that just the story to cover up the mess they put themselves in. someone needs to be fired for this mess , i wasted 40 mins of my life on this

[superroo]

Originally Posted by Blue Shadow

Just read that it got hacked 3 times last night. I might as well put my tax file number on face book.

Hacked and Denial of Service are two different things, that our media fail to realise.

DoS just means overloading the server with requests so that it craps it self. You could do that to here if you wanted

[GXL078]

Originally Posted by LG17

Whether you have a cynical outlook or not, the information garnered does assist greatly with future infrastructure, education facilities, shopping centres and more.
It assists the government of the day with their planning, administration and and other legitimate activities.

Believe it or not, when the data garnered is released, the website almost crashes from the number of financiers, developers, business people and corporations attempting to access it to see which direction they should be heading, which projects should go ahead and where the major growth centres are.

While not perfect, it is the best current method for all these things in use.

Your info sold to the highest bidder in the name of progress.

[Hippy]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Apparently site was hacked... Great eh?

well the gov , and ABS said it could not be hacked ...

they challenged the IT world ,,, guess what , it responded ..

-------or maybe it was just an inner site DOS attack , by so many trying to log in at once , to fulfill their Census duties , and they are blaming something else .

either way , it does show that it was a shambles ...

Yes our private details are safe eh..

imo ,, all this could have been avoided by NOT making name , and address mandatory ,,,,that is what got the populace of Aust angry .
and then stating that all is well and safe, that was the Challenge in itself.

IBM boss stated publically that it could be hacked ..

Whom do we believe ....

just saying it is what it is - calling a spade as a spade , so to speak ...

[prydey]

Originally Posted by GXL078

Your info sold to the highest bidder in the name of progress.

Seriously, what info? so many paranoid people. Tin foil hats would sell extremely well on here.

All the info given is already readily available. As mentioned few times already, a census is just to give the government a snapshot in time.

[LG17]

Originally Posted by GXL078

Your info sold to the highest bidder in the name of progress.

Complete and utter rubbish!
Do you understand what actually happened?

[superroo]

Also, you need to look at the what was being said going in.

Asked about the ability of the online census database to cope with such heavytraffic, an ABS spokesman said the site could handle "1,000,000 form submissions every hour. That's twice the capacity we expect to need."

24 Million Population, 80% of that on the eastern seaboard in roughly the same time zone.
Yeah, 1 mill per hour is more than enough capacity
Denial of Service attack was probably people just trying to fill the form out

[chamb0]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-1...hacked/7712216

The Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) says it believes a series of hacking attacks which led to the census website being shut down last night were part of a deliberate attempt to sabotage the national survey.
Key points:

• ABS shut down census website after it was deliberately hacked four times
• Authorities yet to pinpoint the hackers who sabotaged national survey
• ABS assures public personal data safe

Thousands of Australians were prevented from taking part in the census on Tuesday night as the ABS website crashed.
This morning the ABS's David Kalisch said the census website had been attacked by hackers four times and was shut down as a precaution after the fourth attack.
"It was an attack, and we believe from overseas," he told ABC NewsRadio.
When asked if the hacks were a deliberate attempt to sabotage the census, Mr Kalisch replied: "We believe so".
"The Australian Signals Directorate are investigating, but they did note that it was very difficult to source the attack."


Mr Kalisch said the site was taken down just after 7:30pm after the fourth attack as a precaution to "ensure the integrity of the data".
"The online census form was subject to four denial of service attacks yesterday," he explained.
"The first three caused minor disruption, but more than 2 million forms were successfully submitted and safely stored.
"The scale of the attack, it was quite clear it was malicious.
"Steps have been taken during the night to remedy these issues and I can certainly reassure Australians that the data they provided is safe."
Attorney-General George Brandis told the ABC the security measures in place were "more than sufficient to protect individual privacy".
"The cyber security operations centre has been engaged overnight," he said.
"It is investigating the matter."

Race to get website back online

The census website was unavailable again this morning.
The ABS had estimated that two-thirds of Australians would fill out the census online this year for the first time, rather than on paper.

Mr Kalisch said ABS aimed to have the website up and running as soon as possible to allow people to complete their census forms.
"We have steps in place to counter attacks, [but] this one, there was one breach that did actually get through via a third party … and believe that we've plugged that gap," he said.
Earlier on Tuesday evening Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull tweeted that he had completed the census and it was "easy to do".
In the lead-up to census night, the ABS spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on load testing and said its servers could handle 1 million forms per hour.
People officially have until September 23 to complete the census online, and the ABS has said people will not be fined for not completing the forms on census night.
"There will be no fines for completing the census after August 9. There's still plenty of time to complete the census. Thanks for your patience," the ABS said in a statement.

[Peter B - CV8]

No dramas here. Lodged ours online @ 6.30pm & all good.
Also, no problems in getting a paper version ordered & delivered for my (elderly) father.
Couldn't have gone smoother.

[Trump]

They weren't hacked, the ABS and IBM woefully underestimated the load the system would experience. IBM needs to be held to account for this failure, with the relevant people who signed the cheques at the ABS to face a firing squad.

In an age where Facebook, Twitter et al are able to not only cope with far greater loads but laugh with contempt, this failure is inexcusable.

[mcflux]

Meanwhile at Hacker Central last night

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by Peter B - CV8

No dramas here. Lodged ours online @ 6.30pm & all good.

Did mine at that time and was surprised as all get out that it worked...but I guess some dude in Nigeria is currently selling my details and now knows I walked to work yesterday....

You got to laugh though...Is there anything that the Australian Government can actually do without screwing it up?

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Results from last nights Census are in

[Polyal]

Yeap I (like alot) call BS on it being hacked.

[Romulus]

Government departments. Just goes to show bureaucrats couldn't run anything bigger than a cake stall.

The incompetence is astounding.

[Sox]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

They weren't hacked, the ABS and IBM woefully underestimated the load the system would experience. IBM needs to be held to account for this failure, with the relevant people who signed the cheques at the ABS to face a firing squad.

In an age where Facebook, Twitter et al are able to not only cope with far greater loads but laugh with contempt, this failure is inexcusable.

[Sox]

What's it matter, we have weeks to do this?

[Madaya]

Yet on Facebook, people put their name, birthdate, where they live (even country will do), discuss their likes, dislikes, how many kids they have, their relationships, what they eat, what they believe, addictions, how much they drink, friends, parents....the list goes on. That data is kept in cyberspace forever and it is very difficult for you to delete that data.
The ABS asks for a limited bit of info and woah, big brother.
We must be stupid.
Besides, I don't what the Anti Lock Braking System on my Ute is going to do with my info. Maybe it's a covert Ford update thingy?

[Sox]

Originally Posted by Madaya

Yet on Facebook, people put their name, birthdate, where they live (even country will do), discuss their likes, dislikes, how many kids they have, their relationships, what they eat, what they believe, addictions, how much they drink, friends, parents....the list goes on. That data is kept in cyberspace forever and it is very difficult for you to delete that data.
The ABS asks for a limited bit of info and woah, big brother.
We must be stupid.

The mind boggles mate, gov know everything there is to know about us anyhow.