Would You Pay $38,190 for the new Mazda 3 ????

[jamies]

Mazda 3's a great car, Ford used to be partnered with Mazda..

[TheSneakiness]

Originally Posted by NX74205

No argument there, but ...

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. The B Series were some of the best Falcons ever made.

Picture this.

You're driving on the major highway in your state and the FBW throttle cuts out the engine and you've got tonnes of rolling metal in a B Double truck quickly bearing down on you.

Then tell me its the best thing ever made.

[Syndrome]

I'd rather a Falcon EcoLPi for that price. Same running costs but none of the compromises regarding space and performance.

[Alan D Segal]

Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

Picture this.

You're driving on the major highway in your state and the FBW throttle cuts out the engine and you've got tonnes of rolling metal in a B Double truck quickly bearing down on you.

Then tell me its the best thing ever made.

Picture this. You're driving on the major highway in your state and the throttle cable snaps and cuts out the engine and you've got tonnes of metorite hurtling towards you.

Then tell me how likely that is to happen.

[JG34JA]

Originally Posted by Alan D Segal

Picture this. You're driving on the major highway in your state and the throttle cable snaps and cuts out the engine and you've got tonnes of metorite hurtling towards you.

Then tell me how likely that is to happen.

http://www.space.com/22369-nasa-aste...hreat-map.html

[1TUFFUTE]

Short answer......40k for a mazda3? Get real. If I wanted small,economical and depressing after a week, I'd spend 18k on something!

[TheSneakiness]

Originally Posted by Alan D Segal

Picture this. You're driving on the major highway in your state and the throttle cable snaps and cuts out the engine and you've got tonnes of metorite hurtling towards you.

Then tell me how likely that is to happen.

Not very, however FBW cut outs was a common occurance on my BAII XR6 and is well documented here, so I think I know what I'm talking about.

Props for trying though, maybe next time champ.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

I'd rather a Falcon EcoLPi for that price. Same running costs but none of the compromises regarding space and performance.

The problem is running costs is not the be all and end all of car ownership.

Mazda 3 and Falcon are very different. Some may seem the extra 50-70cm in length the Falcon has as a compromise on garage space, the rear space for 5 adults can be a compromise if the person prefers a hatch and drop down seats.

This is often mentioned when people start threads along the lines of "Need a small, economical car with low running costs at $x cost to get around in".

You will always see the answer: "AU on gas", "BA on gas". Some people just prefer smaller cars, don't need full time seating for 5 adults in comfort, don't need the ability to tow 2 ton and don't want a car that is meant to be a better buy because it is cheap to fix.

The Mazda 3 is a sucess because it is what it is. There is a market for that size, that shape, that engine, that style etc. If I were in the market for a 3, a Falcon would NEVER be an option. Totally different beasts.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

Not very, however FBW cut outs was a common occurance on my BAII XR6 and is well documented here, so I think I know what I'm talking about.

Props for trying though, maybe next time champ.

Well, if its a "cut out" then there is no throttle application...so you slow down...and you coast off the road with hazards on. Just like any other situation.

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

Picture this.

You're driving on the major highway in your state and the FBW throttle cuts out the engine and you've got tonnes of rolling metal in a B Double truck quickly bearing down on you.

Then tell me its the best thing ever made.

I've owned a BF for over 7 years and it's been nothing short of reliable, apart from an annoying diff bush clunk, there's virtually nothing majorly wrong with it.

My dad has owned a BA for nearly 10 years and it too has never had a major issue - fuel gauge not indicating below 1/8th of a tank, which lead to it running out of fuel once, and having had a battery replaced twice ... that's about it in nearly 10 years of ownership.

The B Series was a quantum leap forward for the Falcon at the time (which lead it to its COTY victory), incorporating advanced technology such as drive by wire, DOHC + VCT in a heavily updated engine, a new world class ZF auto for the BF, and more. It drove, rode and handled like no Falcon before it.

It also incorporated distinctly European design cues - the interior is almost Germanic in appearance (if not so much in feel).

That's what makes it one of the best Falcons ever made.

Anyway, enough with the thread drift.

Would I pay $38K for a Mazda 3? I'm not exactly in the market for a Mazda 3 so probably not, but it's good to see that the top of the range model is loaded with tech. If I had that much to spend and I was looking for a small car, I'd probably buy the Focus Titanium, though.

[V8 Ghia Mike]

The Mazda and others of it's ilk may may be practical, economical, blah, blah, blah, but one thing it will never be is cool.

Mike

[XR Martin]

And in 10 years they'll be ten deep at the wreckers and no one will care.

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

And in 10 years they'll be ten deep at the wreckers and no one will care.

How many 10 year old Mazda 3s do you see at the wreckers? Mazda has proven itself to be a producer of very reliable cars.

[Chopped]

I think I'd rather the Mazda 6

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by NX74205

How many 10 year old Mazda 3s do you see at the wreckers? Mazda has proven itself to be a producer of very reliable cars.

Still quite a few of the first gen Mazda 3s getting around... have to be on their last legs....right?

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by NX74205

How many 10 year old Mazda 3s do you see at the wreckers? Mazda has proven itself to be a producer of very reliable cars.

The length of time is irrelavent. My comment has nothing to do with how reliable they may or may not be.
Its the fact that once they become unfashionable, they will be soon forgotten. Like an Iphone or Ipad.
How desirable is a 1980/90s 323?

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

The length of time is irrelavent. My comment has nothing to do with how reliable they may or may not be.
Its the fact that once they become unfashionable, they will be soon forgotten. Like an Iphone or Ipad.
How desirable is a 1980/90s 323?

A 10 year old Maz 3 will be desirable as a cheap, good quality second-hand car, just like the 323 its self.

Better return of investment too...

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by Nikked

Better return of investment too...

Investment? Cars? Err I dont think so.

[Pedro]

Originally Posted by DASH GT

Mazda 3's that have mismatched bumpers?

Yep.

[buickman]

Originally Posted by Windsor220

Has their engines started rattling or smoking yet?

I know some of the earlier NA, MA and FE Mazda motors would do the head gaskets but never had any issues with both the old 2002 SP20 and current Mazda 3 my wife drives. The only thing that annoys me about Mazda’s is the 6 months no capped servicing which they are now changing otherwise very a well put together car that will last a long time without problems .

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Investment? Cars? Err I dont think so.

I think the emphasis was on return ie resale.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

The problem is running costs is not the be all and end all of car ownership.

Mazda 3 and Falcon are very different. Some may seem the extra 50-70cm in length the Falcon has as a compromise on garage space, the rear space for 5 adults can be a compromise if the person prefers a hatch and drop down seats.

This is often mentioned when people start threads along the lines of "Need a small, economical car with low running costs at $x cost to get around in".

You will always see the answer: "AU on gas", "BA on gas". Some people just prefer smaller cars, don't need full time seating for 5 adults in comfort, don't need the ability to tow 2 ton and don't want a car that is meant to be a better buy because it is cheap to fix.

The Mazda 3 is a sucess because it is what it is. There is a market for that size, that shape, that engine, that style etc. If I were in the market for a 3, a Falcon would NEVER be an option. Totally different beasts.

In my case I buy on price range, I've got X amount of money which is the best car I can get across everything for example.

[Windsor220]

Originally Posted by buickman

I know some of the earlier NA, MA and FE Mazda motors would do the head gaskets but never had any issues with both the old 2002 SP20 and current Mazda 3 my wife drives. The only thing that annoys me about Mazda’s is the 6 months no capped servicing which they are now changing otherwise very a well put together car that will last a long time without problems .

Was referring specifically to the MPS that someone mentioned earlier.

[747jet]

Buy a Mazda today for $38k and in one years time it's worth 10k trade in. Mazdas have no resale value.

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by 747jet

Buy a Mazda today for $38k and in one years time it's worth 10k trade in. Mazdas have no resale value.

Might want to re check your figures.
http://www.redbook.com.au/cars/resea...&Ridx=6&eapi=2

Sure you didn't confuse it with a Falcodore?

[Franco Cozzo]

The old mans 2003 323 (predecessor to the 3) has 375,000km on the clock and it still starts first time every morning, been abused all its life though through lack of servicing, and its pretty slow these days. I just top up the oil when the old man says the oil light comes on when he goes around corners in the morning, filter gets changed every now and again.

Just started developing a rough idle today.

Still on its original starter, alternator and clutch and it survived me learning to drive. Only done a set of rotors, 2 sets of front pads and a rear set of pads in that time.

Perfect A-B car for people who don't care about cars, which unfortunately is 90% of people.

[_Ben]

Originally Posted by 747jet

Buy a Mazda today for $38k and in one years time it's worth 10k trade in. Mazdas have no resale value.

Because owning an FG is much more logical, for resale value

[747jet]

[QUOTE=_Ben;5009949]Because owning an FG is much more logical, for resale give me a fg falcon over a Mazda because I'm Australian and I want to drive a Australian made car not a jap ****** box. And if you love Mazdas that much go live in japan.

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by 747jet

Because owning an FG is much more logical, for resale give me a fg falcon over a Mazda because I'm Australian and I want to drive a Australian made car not a jap ****** box. And if you love Mazdas that much go live in japan.

So, Mazda 3s are worth 10k after one year (not even true) because you're Australian and you want to drive a Australian made car?

That is a non sequitur.

[BHDOGS]

original 1993 eb falcon abused all its life still starts first time no issues reliable as old boots even with 5 days of over 40 degrees in adelaide the temp gauge never moves shes no mazda tho