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Old 08-03-2014, 07:05 PM   #31
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Not long ago mates son bought a Chrysler 300 with 22's and 35 series tyres. He spent three grand on a set of 24's with liquorice strips against everyone's recommendations and three rims were busted within a month. No warranty on those! Went back to the 22's real quick.
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Old 08-03-2014, 07:30 PM   #32
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Not long ago mates son bought a Chrysler 300 with 22's and 35 series tyres. He spent three grand on a set of 24's with liquorice strips against everyone's recommendations and three rims were busted within a month. No warranty on those! Went back to the 22's real quick.
Oddly enough, in Las Vegas and surrounding areas where even the worst roads were better than a lot of our highways (not to mention thier beautiful concrete billiard-table-smooth highways), we saw plenty of modified cars...tons of them, of all shapes and sizes...but we didn't see those licorice strip rubber tyres that are so popular here, with our rougher roads and harsher conditions. Weird.
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Old 08-03-2014, 08:29 PM   #33
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Oddly enough, in Las Vegas and surrounding areas where even the worst roads were better than a lot of our highways (not to mention thier beautiful concrete billiard-table-smooth highways), we saw plenty of modified cars...tons of them, of all shapes and sizes...but we didn't see those licorice strip rubber tyres that are so popular here, with our rougher roads and harsher conditions. Weird.
This doesn't make sense....so you saw no comaros...mustang GTS,Porsches or any type of super cars. Even WRX n evos run low profile tyres.
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Old 09-03-2014, 06:04 AM   #34
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American cars in general seem to run higher profile tyres.

Example being my Mustang has 245/45/R19 vs XR6T 245/35/R19. The Brembo equipped Mustangs run 255/40/R19
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:07 AM   #35
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wow, three people that drive with their eyes closed....
Not so PB - G6E is right on the money. Central Queensland roads have to be driven to be believed. Actually you don't drive them - they're more something you negotiate!

The whole region is predominantly black soil and in dry weather the stuff opens up with cracks that wide you can damn near fall down them. You can imagine how that works as a road base.

It's a funny thing. I grew up in that country and whenever I hear anyone complaining about how bad a particular road is in where I live now I just smile and think of CQ.

Mate they're shockers!

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Old 09-03-2014, 10:26 AM   #36
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The Mrs is a dyed in the wool Holden driver. Currently she has a VE SV6 ute and thought it was time for a final VF SS ute upgrade. So off she toddles to Kerry Holden for a test drive. Well!! Too much chrome inside the cab. Seats uncomfortable. Couldn't see over the bonnet and the list went on. This was the first time I had heard her bag her beloved Commodores. BUT the thing that really p****d her off!! NO SPARE WHEEL. Available as an optional extra on all models except SSV Redline where it isn't available at all! Instead Holden supply a can of spray and a 12V compressor kit. UNBELIEVABLE!! Too bad if a tyre has a failure!!
My SS-V Redline has a full alloy spare as does all Redlines as standard. All other models a steel spare is a factory $500 option. My local dealer wont order a VF without ticking that box.If you want a spare you can certainly get one. Just find a better dealer who will order the car with what you want at the price you need to be at.

The bonnet is the pedestrian safety thing. Unfortunatrly all new designs have it. Chrome im with you on that.

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Old 09-03-2014, 10:32 AM   #37
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American cars in general seem to run higher profile tyres.

Example being my Mustang has 245/45/R19 vs XR6T 245/35/R19. The Brembo equipped Mustangs run 255/40/R19
The yanks also like a softer ride. EveryChev SS review comments on the stiff ride and how it may be a problem for some. The SS gets the same suspension tune as the Redline here. They are quite surprised by it.

To be honest I think the yanks have got this right. They trade a little handling for a better balanced setup in the real world.
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:56 AM   #38
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worked up around roma and charleville for quite a while along the gas line, did heaps of km and the roads are terrible, was one spot after a flood where i thought the buldge in the road left from the trucks was gonna take out the gearbox in the landcruiser. Hate to have been inatentive in a sedan!
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Old 09-03-2014, 12:26 PM   #39
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This doesn't make sense....so you saw no comaros...mustang GTS,Porsches or any type of super cars. Even WRX n evos run low profile tyres.
Of course I saw Porsches and supercars (including a Maclaren SLR Mercedes), but I was talking about modified cars. Even Mustangs mostly had "normal" tyres with sidewalls, as did Camaros and Challengers. They didn't have the ridiculous licorice strip tyres that people feel the need to slap on cars here.


Spot on about the Capricorn Highway...and a lot of areas of the Bruce. Not to mention the way you can be following traffic and all of a sudden a massive hole appears underneath the vehicle in front and you slam into it with no warning.

Hitting a pothole doesn't mean you're a stupid driver...and more importantly, driving in a normal way on normal roads and merely hitting a pothole shouldn't mean you damage your factory wheels...and if you find you have to constantly be on guard not to hit the slightest ripple or hole in the road because you know you'll damage your vehicle, then something is wrong...but not with you or your driving...
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Old 09-03-2014, 12:38 PM   #40
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Of course I saw Porsches and supercars (including a Maclaren SLR Mercedes), but I was talking about modified cars. Even Mustangs mostly had "normal" tyres with sidewalls, as did Camaros and Challengers. They didn't have the ridiculous licorice strip tyres that people feel the need to slap on cars here.


Spot on about the Capricorn Highway...and a lot of areas of the Bruce. Not to mention the way you can be following traffic and all of a sudden a massive hole appears underneath the vehicle in front and you slam into it with no warning.

Hitting a pothole doesn't mean you're a stupid driver...and more importantly, driving in a normal way on normal roads and merely hitting a pothole shouldn't mean you damage your factory wheels...and if you find you have to constantly be on guard not to hit the slightest ripple or hole in the road because you know you'll damage your vehicle, then something is wrong...but not with you or your driving...
so it is more of a road maintenance related problem more than a Ford related problem

thanks for clearing that up for us
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Old 09-03-2014, 01:34 PM   #41
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While we're on the topic of roads, it ***** me how you have the Monash Freeway in Melbourne, 4 lanes in either direction and they reduced the speed limit to 80km/h for about 5 kilometers, if not more.

This is around the corner of my house:



There ain't no four lanes here, and I've done the 100km/h on this road so why can't we do 100km/h+ on a new well maintained freeway?
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Old 09-03-2014, 06:07 PM   #42
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I thought you had to have equal sized tyres on the same axle for the vehicle to be roadworthy.
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I thought you had to have equal sized tyres on the same axle for the vehicle to be roadworthy.
I'm pretty sure the rolling diameter of the space saver will be close or equal to that of the standard wheel?
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Old 09-03-2014, 06:44 PM   #44
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I had the slime and compressor in my old VE SS-V and currently have a full size spare in my VE SS wagon, both cars put through their paces with plenty of country and dirt road driving. Only time I need either method was when the tyres were let down on the wagon which doesn't have the compressor, spare only covers one tyre, not all 4... In my up and coming VF SS-V I will not be bothering with a spare tyre.

I suspect my tyres were let down by brother (although he denied it) in pay back for putting about 12 mirrors, a pink basket, streamers and those stupid bead things on the spokes of his bike which he had to ride to work first thing in the morning.
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