Ford strike back with police cars

[Road Games]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Needs steelies.

They are.....

[Sprint XR8]

Only 42 Caprice PPV's sold in June.

http://blogs.motortrend.com/big-thre...ers-16299.html

[Bossxr8]

Interestingly with all the talk of the Chevy Volt being so important to GM, they only sold 561.

Mustang outsold Camaro.

[jpd80]

GM seems to say one thing and then do the complete opposite...

[kpcart]

how interesting that the brand loyalty fight of Ford vs Holden in australia involves 13 pages on a forum about US cop cars. the ford cop car is essentially a volvo from the late 90s, but it has the ford label so yeh - lets all hope it sells well.

[Joe5619]

Originally Posted by kpcart

how interesting that the brand loyalty fight of Ford vs Holden in australia involves 13 pages on a forum about US cop cars. the ford cop car is essentially a volvo from the late 90s, but it has the ford label so yeh - lets all hope it sells well.

How in god’s names is the current FORD Taurus with a Ford pain-tented engine in anyway linked to a Volvo from the late 90's? Do tell because I'm lost!!

[eb2fairmont]

The D4 platform underpinned the Volvo S80 in the late 90's. Suspension and floorpan pressings are similar.

[Joe5619]

I thought the current Taurus was all new when it come out a few years back??

[falconnut]

Do NSW or Aussie Cops in general use Ford Falcons as HWP?

I swear ive seen a Green FG undercover.

[FPV GTHO]

Originally Posted by eb2fairmont

The D4 platform underpinned the Volvo S80 in the late 90's. Suspension and floorpan pressings are similar.

D3 Taurus shares similiarity with the XC90 floorpan.

[phillyc]

Originally Posted by falconnut

Do NSW or Aussie Cops in general use Ford Falcons as HWP?

I swear ive seen a Green FG undercover.

Yep. See FG Falcons as HWP / pursuit vehicles all the time. Saw one today. Usually white, sometimes coloured.

[Paxton]

Originally Posted by phillyc

Yep. See FG Falcons as HWP / pursuit vehicles all the time. Saw one today. Usually white, sometimes coloured.

If you know what you're looking for, you can spot them a mile off. If you see BA Typhoon rims and Brembo Brakes on an FG, you're looking at one.

[AC]

There's some good coloured examples getting around.

[falconnut]

Sweet, glad to know their still kicking, only seen Holdens around lately.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by kpcart

how interesting that the brand loyalty fight of Ford vs Holden in australia involves 13 pages on a forum about US cop cars. the ford cop car is essentially a volvo from the late 90s, but it has the ford label so yeh - lets all hope it sells well.

Again, you are full of BS, Ford accesses the platform for the Volvo XC90 and completely re engineered it for their own purposes:
different engines
different transmisions
different trim
different electrical systems.


It's like saying FoA used the same old XP design to make FG

[vztrt]

http://www.caradvice.com.au/127789/c...aler-loophole/

Chevrolet Caprice PPV sold to the public in dealer loophole
By Tim Beissmann | July 8th, 2011

A small number of Australian-made Chevrolet Caprice Police Patrol Vehicles have found their way into public hands after a US dealer took advantage of a loophole in Chevrolet’s contract.

According to Jalopnik, Criswell Chevrolet in Maryland advertised 13 Chevrolet Caprice vehicles for sale to the public on its website last month.

From the outset, Chevrolet has made it clear that the Caprice was only to be sold to law enforcement agencies and not to members of the public. But a loophole in Chevrolet’s dealer sales contract failed to explicitly state this.

Harry Criswell, the owner of the Maryland dealership, told Automotive News he only sold one or two Chevrolet Caprice Detective models before he was contacted by General Motors and asked to stop.

GM has since plugged the legal loophole, and does not believe any other Caprice vehicles have been sold to the public.

The 13 Caprice Detective vehicles – the unmarked version of the police patrol car – were advertised on Criswell’s website for between $US31,870 and $US37,053 ($29,600 and $34,400). Criswell fitted the stripped-out sedans with a number of additional comfort features, including power windows and power seats.

The remaining vehicles in his yard will be sold to police forces as they were originally intended.

It’s easy to understand why the Americans are keen to get their hands on our Holden-designed and -manufactured Caprice. With a US-rated 265kW/521Nm 6.0-litre V8 on board, the Caprice is the first rear-wheel drive sedan from Chevrolet since the 1996 Chevrolet Impala.

The only other V8-powered rear-wheel drive sedan in GM’s US stable is the Cadillac CTS-V, which is priced from $US67,000 ($62,200).

One or two Americans now have their hands on the banned cop cars. The rest of the country’s enthusiasts will have to wait for the unmarked cars to head to the auction floor in a few years’ time.

[Falc'man]

Wow, power windows and power seats; that must be why they're going like hotcakes.

[naddis01]

One or two sold to the public? Yeah the Americans are real keen to get their hands the Caprice.

[Road_Warrior]

Even still, two very lucky yanks now have a brand new, RWD V8 sedan...that no one else in North America can get! Unless you work for a Police Department.

[naddis01]

Or wait a couple of years...

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Again, you are full of BS, Ford accesses the platform for the Volvo XC90 and completely re engineered it for their own purposes:
different engines
different transmisions
different trim
different electrical systems.


It's like saying FoA used the same old XP design to make FG

isnt it just an updated version?

[vztrt]

Talking to a contact today I hear Holden are really banking on this doing well. So they must be thinking they will move lots of units.

[BHDOGS]

For the price there selling them for im sure they will undervalue

[Falc'man]

Originally Posted by BHDOGS

For the price there selling them for im sure they will undervalue

Government will make up for any losses.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by MethodX

isnt it just an updated version?

It is an updated version of the D3 Taurus but that is completely different to saying
that the original late 1990s P2 Volvo (XC90 variant) = Ford D3 Taurus built in 2011.
His attempt to dismiss Taurus as an old design was as best ill informed and at worst completely ignorant of the facts.

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by jpd80

It is an updated version of the D3 Taurus but that is completely different to saying
that the original late 1990s P2 Volvo (XC90 variant) = Ford D3 Taurus built in 2011.
His attempt to dismiss Taurus as an old design was as best ill informed and at worst completely ignorant of the facts.

I was kidding, saying the modern falcon is an updated version of the XP.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by MethodX

I was kidding, saying the modern falcon is an updated version of the XP.

Oh, I should be sleeping.....
There are Americans that do believe our Fg is only re-skinned XP.....the poor dumb bastards.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Oh, I should be sleeping.....
There are Americans that do believe our Fg is only re-skinned XP.....the poor dumb bastards.

These American work for Ford NA don't they??

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by vztrt

These American work for Ford NA don't they??

No, actually I know someone who was on engineering for the 2005 Mustang, I sense that FNA and FoA would
love the chance to work together, put aside any concerns of under developed cars, if the engineering was bundled
together the cost of both would be considerably reduced and both our favorite cars would survive..

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by jpd80

No, actually I know someone who was on engineering for the 2005 Mustang, I sense that FNA and FoA would
love the chance to work together, put aside any concerns of underdeveloped cars, if the they were bundled
together the coost of both would be considerably reduced and both our favorite cars would survive..

This is what I was hoping would happen. We would get a great Falcon with the tech people want. It would also make it a world wide car.