Ban Cars Near Schools

[b0son]

Originally Posted by jpblue1000

The article is referring to the UK. Where diesel cars are far more prolific due to a poor decision by previous government.

Thanks for the background... I was referring to the potential application here. I just cant see for a justification for it here, though its clear there's a need in the UK.

[aussiblue]

The percentage of diesel vehicles in the UK has been falling rapidly in recent years see https://www.statista.com/statistics/...nited-kingdom/ and https://www.bbc.com/news/business-43655703 They did increase rapidly in the decade prior to 2017 https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...ds-before.html But they are moving to banning all petrol and diesel vehicles by 2040 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40726868

[Citroënbender]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Imagine coming out of jail after 25 years and your first day out on the street everyone has things in their ears, looking down at some rectangle thing - zombie apocalypse has come and gone while you were inside.

Hey, but at least you got a tan on the insides of your wrists!

[Studz xr8]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

The percentage of diesel vehicles in the UK has been falling rapidly in recent years see https://www.statista.com/statistics/...nited-kingdom/ and https://www.bbc.com/news/business-43655703 They did increase rapidly in the decade prior to 2017 https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...ds-before.html But they are moving to banning all petrol and diesel vehicles by 2040 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40726868

2040 You say
Better make the most of our old classic dream machines then and enjoy them while we still have the chance.

I can't really see my old Windsor powered 67 XR running on electricity

What a sin...

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[CoupeKing]

2040, lol.

[jpd80]

It all goes back to idiotic decisions to put schools on main thoroughfares and wonder why
the whole thing ends up being a major choke point and dangerous to the very people
we should be protecting. Imagine if schools had all been planned to be built away from those
main roads, down a side access road.
- main road traffic would not be affected by school zones, kids, parents cars and buses.
- Buses could drive down to the schools and have their own parking bays and turn around
- parents could park off street in a parking lot and not be idling their cars anxiously.
- kids could either walk home or cycle along paths.

If anyone is to blame for this mess, it's council planners not thinking through their decisions
in terms of reducing traffic congestion an danger to the public..

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

The percentage of diesel vehicles in the UK has been falling rapidly in recent years see https://www.statista.com/statistics/...nited-kingdom/ and https://www.bbc.com/news/business-43655703 They did increase rapidly in the decade prior to 2017 https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...ds-before.html But they are moving to banning all petrol and diesel vehicles by 2040 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40726868

Hybrid vehicles, which combine petrol and electric motors, will not be included in the sales ban.

[EgoFG]

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Modern day kids have lost the evolutionary ability to look left and right, and to hear external sounds of the environment around them....

Having higher speed limits and mandatory minimums around schools would soon fix that.


Officer handing out tickets: "Sorry, you were driving too slow. You in the school zone and have to travel at 100km/h and try and raise the IQ of the nation"


(too soon ? always too soon for that joke)

[marty351]

Originally Posted by EgoFG

Having higher speed limits and mandatory minimums around schools would soon fix that.


Officer handing out tickets: "Sorry, you were driving too slow. You in the school zone and have to travel at 100km/h and try and raise the IQ of the nation"


(too soon ? always too soon for that joke)

The best way to raise the national IQ- ban the Kardashians and crappy reality tv.

[Citroënbender]

I had a refreshing moment in peripheral discussions with a social worker today. He told me he’d taken the kids’ online devices away for a week after they became too obsessed with aping the shallow online “lives” of their idols. It’s good to know there are still parents with brains, even if the static seems to often drown out their voices.

[Rallye Sport]

Originally Posted by jpd80

If anyone is to blame for this mess, it's council planners not thinking through their decisions
in terms of reducing traffic congestion an danger to the public..

You can blame anything on the council if you have a vivid imagination. Its lowest common denominator thinking.

The only thing that will change peoples routines is money. Start charging for parking or standing in these areas at drop off and pick up times. Residents get permits the rest pay. Sure they'll winge and bitch but I'll be from a free parking spot at a distance of the school.
Its worked with plastic bags, container deposit schemes, increased landfill fees. Money talks bull **** walks.... and so can they.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Rallye Sport

You can blame anything on the council if you have a vivid imagination. Its lowest common denominator thinking.

The only thing that will change peoples routines is money. Start charging for parking or standing in these areas at drop off and pick up times. Residents get permits the rest pay. Sure they'll winge and bitch but I'll be from a free parking spot at a distance of the school.
Its worked with plastic bags, container deposit schemes, increased landfill fees. Money talks bull **** walks.... and so can they.

Good idea, then we can have a lot more pedestrian traffic in (and out of) School zones.

[Rallye Sport]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Good idea, then we can have a lot more pedestrian traffic in (and out of) School zones.

What would be your suggestion then?

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Rallye Sport

What would be your suggestion then?

Why do I need to have one?

I could say have parking on the school grounds, but most of the newer schools around already already have that.

The older schools rarely have cars idling nearby as parents park and walk to the school gates to pick up the primary kids. The high schoolers either have their own cars or get on a bus.

[arronm]

Ban schools near cars...

[Rallye Sport]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Why do I need to have one?

We all have differing opinions and that is constructive.
What isn't is not being able to back up said opinion with an alternative, amicable solution. Progress will never be made if we just keep doing the same thing and expect a different result.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Rallye Sport

We all have differing opinions and that is constructive.
What isn't is not being able to back up said opinion with an alternative, amicable solution. Progress will never be made if we just keep doing the same thing and expect a different result.

I thought I mentioned an alternative.

May I ask how many kids you have at school and how they get there and back?

[Craig@AUDI]

What about a drive through drop off?

[Junkyard-Dog]

Most of the dangerous driving that took place around my high school was done by the students

[Rallye Sport]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

I thought I mentioned an alternative.

May I ask how many kids you have at school and how they get there and back?

I took it as more of an observation that new schools have more parking than old ones. My observation is the opposite around my neck of the woods where the older schools are much larger and have more bays and off street bus ranks than the newer 'space is money' suburbs. Once again thats an observation not a potential solution.

...and for the record we've got no kids and no immediate chance of having any.

[LTDHO]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

If I had to walk to school I'd have never turned up

In the 12 years I went to school I would say I was dropped off and picked up in a car no more than 5 times. Every other time I walked or rode.

Originally Posted by EgoFG

When I was a kid I walked about 1 km in 100k zone, and another 1 km in 60k zone.

I did not die.

I do have a problem with 40k zones at high schools.

In high school I rode 6klms each way in speed zones varying between 60 and 80 (this was before the weak 40 zones were introduced)

No one died.

I was fit in those days too.