Vfacts For December

[Sprint XR8]

Originally Posted by Inducted_Breeze

Tell that to this guy - http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=VpPT-1...e=channel_page

Obsessed much? Checkout his profile LOL

This guy is comedy gold.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by phillyc

Top 10 vehicles for 2008 calender year

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...=60020&IsPgd=0

1. Holden Commodore (51,093)
2. Toyota Corolla (47,901)
3. Toyota Hilux (42,956)
4. Mazda3 (33,755)
5. Ford Falcon (31,936)

This tells the story though. Ford have a superior car in the FG and its still getting massively outsold by a piece of garbage. Which ever way you look, take into account profit margins or whatever, the simple fact is that Fords sales and marketing team have massively FAILED.

If you can barely sell half as many of a superior product something is massively wrong. When are Ford going to clean out their sales and marketing teams and start over fresh, cause the clowns they have now are useless.

[Gobes32]

Originally Posted by Inducted_Breeze

Tell that to this guy - http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=VpPT-1...e=channel_page

Obsessed much? Checkout his profile LOL

"At least Holden don't hide their links with Opel, unlike Ford"

Because in Australia we call Fords..................................Fords (idiot)

[Sprint XR8]

You still need to add Territory and Falcon ute to the 31936 to get a clearer picture. Anyone got those figures for the year?

[phillyc]

Originally Posted by Gobes32

Time will tell, but I feel Ford is in a better position than Holden. In July when the profits/losses are announced we will know for sure.

Interesting in europe, not one toyota in the top 10???????

Because Europeans typically like vehicles that steer and handle well. We ALL know on here that Toyotas don't hold a candle to most cars on sale and especially not those that were developed in Europe.

Shame most Australians don't realise that or just how well the big Aussie Falcon or Commodores handle.

PS I drive several imported utes and also the local products for work on a regular basis. The difference between the driving is staggering. Not to mention much quieter and refined. The Aussie utes are so much better.

[phillyc]

Originally Posted by coupex

You still need to add Territory and Falcon ute to the 31936 to get a clearer picture. Anyone got those figures for the year?

IIRC The Territory sold about 12,000 units last year. The Falcon ute was marginally (less than a 1000) outsold by the Commo ute. Both were in the 12-13,000 ballpark.

So, the difference is roughly halved from about 20,000 to 10,000. ie Holden 65k to Ford 56k.

[Martyvan]

Originally Posted by phillyc

Shame most Australians don't realise that or just how well the big Aussie Falcon or Commodores handle.

Unfortunately, the premiers of their respective state/territories would have a coronary, if people bought cars that handled well..... and handled well enough to get you out of tricky situations, instead of sliding right in...!

You would think that because the Falcon has 5 star safety, that Workplace health and safety would mandate it in the purchase of company vehicles.

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by Martyvan

You would think that because the Falcon has 5 star safety, that Workplace health and safety would mandate it in the purchase of company vehicles.

Now theres and idea!

Do what they did with Alcho-pops, smokes, Beers & Vegimite and everything else that BAD for you ....... tax the hell of cars that don't comply with 5 stars so the g'ment can coninue protecting us from BAD Camry's.



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[imugli]

Don't forget base povodore now has 5 star rating as well...

[Martyvan]

Originally Posted by imugli

Don't forget base povodore now has 5 star rating as well...

They had to add 24 more airbags to make it work though.. hahaha

Do any toyotas have 5 star?

[irlewy86]

Originally Posted by Martyvan

Unfortunately, the premiers of their respective state/territories would have a coronary, if people bought cars that handled well..... and handled well enough to get you out of tricky situations, instead of sliding right in...!

You would think that because the Falcon has 5 star safety, that Workplace health and safety would mandate it in the purchase of company vehicles.

Strangely government fleet purchasers tend to spend the lest on optional safety features.

[Gobes32]

Originally Posted by irlewy86

Strangely government fleet purchasers tend to spend the lest on optional safety features.

Because it's "Do as I say, Not as I do"

[azaxr8]

Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

Wrong...

Fords not a luxury brand, therefore dealers don't have the same profit margins that luxury brands do... Fords and Holdens are all numbers, dont get the numbers and its bye bye...

Ford could have marketed the cars somewhat in the last month of December, especially the 5 star safety rating... There stupid cricket adds are a waste of time and money... Not every australian cares about Cricket...

Wrong, Brands can change when ever they want. A few example are surf brands such as world industries. went from $60-70 a shirt to $5 at target?

Public perception is all that needs to be changed. If they are only making enough cars to provide the public with there obviously not losing money on making an extra car to sit in the lots doing nothing. Retailers might die, But you think ford really care about that? Look at the service departments and all the disappoints that people get from dealers. Won't get that crap from bmw, mercedes and higher class cars would you?

I see it as "weeding" out the crap "bringing" in the new.