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Old 21-12-2008, 02:14 PM   #61
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But wouldnt it come back to ..... no job at FORD for that person but an opening at Venture Ind.? It may be a pain in the very short term for the empoyee but in the end jobs are transfered from one to another.

It all comes down to skilled workers ..... not just a cheaper rate. Those able or technically capable of doing the work will be a priority over the non skilled


If you are talking about the building of sub-assemblies, this is something Ford had been out-sourcing for some time. They had been working towards what is called "modular build" where basically they were going to try to get the parts of the vehicles to come into the plant in as assembled a state as possible so that there would only be minimal assembly required at the Ford plant.

It is realized some sub-assembly work can be done cheaper at the vendor's location. That is just how it was, but modular assembly was very resisted by the union.


Now, with the competitive operating agreements that were made by re-opening the contract in 2005, and with the landmark consessions and work rule changes in the tranformational 2007 contract Ford is finding it cheaper to bring work on these sub-assemblies back in-house. You know they will only do this if they can save money and maintain or improve quality of the work. There isn't too much being reported on this in the media though.



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Old 21-12-2008, 02:46 PM   #62
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Getting back to the Supplier employees working within the Ford plants, correct me if Im wrong, but Ford Australia already does this in a round about way. All of the plastic components for the Ford assembly plant are done by a company called Venture Industries (not Ford Owned). Now I know its a different company but Venture are located on the Ford premises at Broadmeadows and its a hole in the wall arrangement, whereby the Venture factory moulds all of the Ford assembly plants requirements and virtually forklifts it or conveyers it through a hole in the wall to the Ford assembly plant. This is how I understand it but am happy to be corrected if this is wrong.

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Fairly close. Bumpers get brought over (by a small truck) and it is then loaded onto what they call the KANBAN (mind you I think they might be getting rid of it as it breaks down to often) and then it moves on the conveyor to the area where the line workers take it of the conveyor and install it on to the car. But after Venture drop the bumpers off at no point do they have anything to do with it unless it a QC issue.
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Old 21-12-2008, 06:09 PM   #63
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Getting back to the Supplier employees working within the Ford plants, correct me if Im wrong, but Ford Australia already does this in a round about way. All of the plastic components for the Ford assembly plant are done by a company called Venture Industries (not Ford Owned). Now I know its a different company but Venture are located on the Ford premises at Broadmeadows and its a hole in the wall arrangement, whereby the Venture factory moulds all of the Ford assembly plants requirements and virtually forklifts it or conveyers it through a hole in the wall to the Ford assembly plant. This is how I understand it but am happy to be corrected if this is wrong.

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The Venture plant used to be the old Ford Plastics Plant, till Ford sold it to them.
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