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View Poll Results: what do you reckon?
Ford Australia - initiative and vision 36 27.69%
Ford - wake up snd smell the roses 23 17.69%
Falcon - an Australian icon 71 54.62%
Territory - the future 29 22.31%
Ford - just another overseas company 7 5.38%
Holden - initiative and vision 12 9.23%
Holden - hard workers that borrow ideas 26 20.00%
Commodore - here one day gone the next. 3 2.31%
Commodore - last years technology 33 25.38%
Ford will take Holdens export crown, in 3 - 5 years 23 17.69%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 130. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
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Old 06-07-2005, 12:44 AM   #1
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Default Ford & Holden rivalry

Just feel like annoying a few people :nutsycuck

I think the tide has turned and Holden are on a downward spiral.

The Commodore was never an Australian designed vehicle, just a Euro Opel that some bean counter thought could save GMH a few dollars in design costs.
This gave Ford the jump they needed, after people saw what the Commodore really was, a small 4 cylinder car with a 1960's engine & drive train shoe horned into it.
After repeated attempts to sway the Australian public into accepting the Commy, Holden bit the bullet & went for what the market wanted size.
So out came another Euro model, remodeled for Australia with a 1960's American V6 vibrator and a 1980's drive train.
This worked; the public loved the extra power, size and 4 speed auto. So sales went up while Ford played catch up, having no 4 speed ready in time & an engine that didn't quite produce the goods.
A few more bad decisions by Ford management gave Holden the chance to improve on the AussieEuro with more old technology, and the public loved every bit of it, that Datsun 180B rear suspension, that rattly sounding engine with clunky auto and sloppy MacPherson (designed by Ford UK in the 60's) front end. Commodores sold like hot cakes.
Then some **** got kicked at Ford Headquarters and the BA Falcon was produced, A true Aussie car, with an Australian designed engine that was powerful & smooth, an Aussie designed gearbox and a handling package that worked.
"Sh*t", that's what the Holden execs said. So out comes the new Holden V6 that sounded like the old one, matched up with the old trans and a five speed that no other auto manufacturer will touch. That'll see us right for a while, they thought.
But Ford releases the Territory, which takes Australia by storm. An Australian designed vehicle, the public go mad over it, with just about every motoring journalist in the country raving about it. Except for the few poor Commodore lovers that see the righting on the wall, 'only fleet buyers love and buy new Commodores'.
Even Holden knows that there time is running out, so the new model will be more Euro than ever, with a V6 designed for Opels & Vauxals and no wagon for at least two years after the sedan, if at all. And a Korean wanabe to compete against the Territory.
:king: Yep, I can see sunny days for Ford Australia. :king:

RIP Commodore :


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