Near miss between trucks and Falcon Wagon video

[mike_nofx]

Just thought this video was worth sharing, Very close call between a Falcon and 2 trucks.

https://youtu.be/1m11_Y8Dqbg

Sorry cant work out how to embed

[axe]

Car driver is an idiot but the truck driver was also being a tool. The number of times I see trucks "racing" each other on freeways and highways whilst there's a kilometer long line of cars waiting to pass...

[Junkyard-Dog]

I said "Whoa!" out loud when it happened :O

[RANGEREST]

Originally Posted by axe

Car driver is an idiot but the truck driver was also being a tool. The number of times I see trucks "racing" each other on freeways and highways whilst there's a kilometer long line of cars waiting to pass...

Yep, damn truck overtaking a truck and doing nothing wrong,
some knob over -overtakes makes the truck driver a tool

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by axe

Car driver is an idiot but the truck driver was also being a tool. The number of times I see trucks "racing" each other on freeways and highways whilst there's a kilometer long line of cars waiting to pass...

I place the underlying "provocation" of that entirely on the heads of the truck drivers. If he can't pass the other truck in a reasonable time he should stay behind it. Alternatively the other truck driver should see that he is going to pass and slow down to let him complete the manoeuvre quickly. This is typical "we own the road, stuff averybody else" attitude from Australian truck drivers. You wouldn't see it in Europe.

Having said that, obviously the Falcon driver's self-preservation instincts are lacking. It's a pain in the neck situation but the sensible thing to do is just wait.

[Junkyard-Dog]

new2ford, you've never driven a truck have you?

[roddy1960]

Originally Posted by RANGEREST

Yep, damn truck overtaking a truck and doing nothing wrong,
some knob over -overtakes makes the truck driver a tool

G'day , Agree the station wagon driver was a tool but if the filming truck was 'overtaking' he was taking a pretty leisurely time doing it or he ran out of grunt..Both at fault..

[poppa smurf]

things that make you go Hmmmm!.......so many fools, so little road.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by axe

Car driver is an idiot but the truck driver was also being a tool. The number of times I see trucks "racing" each other on freeways and highways whilst there's a kilometer long line of cars waiting to pass...

yes they can be painful, did one make you 4.5 minutes late to get somewhere once did they?

They are both speed limited, one is s tad faster than the other, just be patient mate, or was that you driving the wagon?

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

yes they can be painful, did one make you 4.5 minutes late to get somewhere once did they?

They are both speed limited, one is s tad faster than the other, just be patient mate, or was that you driving the wagon?

I think the "driver education" aspect of this video (apart from the obvious point that the Falcon driver needs some) is that the overtaken truck needs to back off a bit so that the time during which both trucks fully occupy the road doesn't stretch to infinity. It's called consideration towards other road users. I don't know whether that's still in the curriculum. It shouldn't need to be if old fashioned common sense was still alive and well.

[Junkyard-Dog]

To be fair, we don't even know how many vehicles were behind the trucks. For all we know it was only the Falcon wagon. Dare I say that this is a Schrödinger's cat situation?

There were both: an infinite number of cars banked up behind them AND.
Just the dropkick in the wagon.

WHO KNOWS!?

[fps_grandma]

Another one

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...286d28fe3412ac

Jesus christ if he didn't make it he'd be a bloody pancake.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by mike_nofx

Just thought this video was worth sharing, Very close call between a Falcon and 2 trucks.

"https://youtu.be/1m11_Y8Dqbg"]https://youtu.be/1m11_Y8Dqbg

Sorry cant work out how to embed

To embed just take the highlighted bit of the url above and insert it between the "square bracketYTsquare bracket square bracket/YTsquare bracket" tags from the "tube" button in the tool bar.

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I'm gobsmacked at the comments that blame this on the truck driver. As much as it may be a little annoying to have the truck take a fair while to pass the other truck, he is fully within his rights (and the law) to do so. As long as he is overtaking the other truck (And assuming it is in a speed zone higher than 80km/h), then he has the right to be in the right-hand lane, no matter how long it takes. I'm pretty sure the law doesn't stipulate a time period that is acceptable!

You guys who blame this on the truck driver need to have a bit more consideration for other roads users, not the other way around!

This incident is completely and solely on the Falcon driver's head for being an impatient moron. /end thread.

[98TLS]

Originally Posted by fps_grandma

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Another one

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...286d28fe3412ac

Jesus christ if he didn't make it he'd be a bloody pancake.

Bugger me thats was close...possibly the same bloke Gotta say the truckies done nothing wrong in the other clip,moron in the Falcon trying to save a few minutes almost got an eternity.

[olfella]

Ahh, so it is the trucks fault? Arn't they allowed to overtake each other anymore? Nice clear road ahead for them to do this manoeuvre so just sit back and enjoy the view - your turn to pass will come and when it does remember do not put two wheels in the dirt.

[cheap]

Don't forget that the trucks are speed restricted/governed - so as to make the roads safer!!!!

[Franco Cozzo]

Too many heroes and not enough capes

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by cheap

Don't forget that the trucks are speed restricted/governed - so as to make the roads safer!!!!

Yeah yeah professional drivers and all that. Just a little micro analysis to check which type of drivers have a better attitude to road safety, and of course none of them are saints, but -

We all know about level crossing crashs and particularly the rather deadlly way that trucks seem to figure more than other types of vehicle. Is it imaginery?

The rail industry is so concerned about it they've been quietly camera-monitoring level crossings for some time. A couple of people in the industry have told me about these ones:

One crossing in SA that was monitored involved stop signs at the crossing. It was found that:

with no other road vehicles or people in sight:-
no Trucks stopped
50% of cars stopped
100% of buses stopped

With cars or people nearby:-
50% of trucks stopped
75% of cars stopped
100% of buses stopped

Certainly doesn't let car drivers off the hook, but they certainly aren't the biggest culprits.

Another survey in NSW was initiated because of the high incidence of broken level crossing boom gates that repair crews were constantly replacing.

The cameras showed that no booms were broken by cars or buses, 100% of them were broken by trucks.

Nuff said.

[Mercury Bullet]

Wow...

Did one cut you off today?

[axe]

Originally Posted by RANGEREST

Yep, damn truck overtaking a truck and doing nothing wrong,
some knob over -overtakes makes the truck driver a tool

I'm not saying that the car driver is in the right, i'm just saying that so often trucks sit side-by-side on multilane roads like this. Technically he was overtaking but if the speed difference between the two trucks was only 2-3km/h then really he isn't passing and is therefore obstructing traffic. In this case the driver should pull back into the left lane and keep the right one clear for other traffic.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by new2ford

Yeah yeah professional drivers and all that. Just a little micro analysis to check which type of drivers have a better attitude to road safety, and of course none of them are saints, but -

We all know about level crossing crashs and particularly the rather deadlly way that trucks seem to figure more than other types of vehicle. Is it imaginery?

The rail industry is so concerned about it they've been quietly camera-monitoring level crossings for some time. A couple of people in the industry have told me about these ones:

One crossing in SA that was monitored involved stop signs at the crossing. It was found that:

with no other road vehicles or people in sight:-
no Trucks stopped
50% of cars stopped
100% of buses stopped

With cars or people nearby:-
50% of trucks stopped
75% of cars stopped
100% of buses stopped

Certainly doesn't let car drivers off the hook, but they certainly aren't the biggest culprits.

Another survey in NSW was initiated because of the high incidence of broken level crossing boom gates that repair crews were constantly replacing.

The cameras showed that no booms were broken by cars or buses, 100% of them were broken by trucks.

Nuff said.

be very careful about always blaming truck for railway crossing accidents, I know of one very famous train v truck accident where the driver was let off due to the fact that the rail had increased the speed of trains through that section and they hadn't bothered to re-set the timing switch for the lights to come one - it is not always the trucks fault, the train was on the intersection faster than the red flashing lights could keep up

And be very careful arguing statistics about truck accidents, coz you won't win it, the percentage of cars on the road against the amount of trucks on the roads, versus kilometers traveled. In over 80% of truck v car accidents it was the cars fault, I can keep going and my numbers are reliable

[Mercury Bullet]

So trucks aren't allowed to overtake any longer?

Maybe if some commenting here had actually driven a truck you might realise that multi-lane is about the only place you can overtake safely in a truck.

Have some bloody patience and respect!

[mik]

Impatient tool head in the wagon , the truck was making reasonable progress , another minute he would have been out of the road ,

What is even more sad is the expert drivers here blaming the truck drivers .

[prydey]

another thing to mention, not that it makes a lot of difference, but trucks aren't out there just going for a drive. they are working. the drivers are on the clock. you don't know how long he had already been following old mate next to him, or how long he had left in his journey, but he was able to go faster, so he was well entitled to overtake. if it was an overtake on a 2 lane road (one lane each way) you can bet the truck being overtaken would have lifted, but on a multi lane road, there was no reason to. its clearly a very long stretch with plenty of time and chances are both trucks were driving near the limit anyway. to assume there was a long line of cars being 'held up' is just that, an assumption.

the video shows one person doing something wrong, so not sure why trucks are even being discussed.

Originally Posted by new2ford

This is typical "we own the road, stuff averybody else" attitude from Australian truck drivers. You wouldn't see it in Europe.

haha, as a cyclist i find this rather ironic. it seems car drivers don't want to share the road with anyone

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

be very careful about always blaming truck for railway crossing accidents, I know of one very famous train v truck accident where the driver was let off due to the fact that the rail had increased the speed of trains through that section and they hadn't bothered to re-set the timing switch for the lights to come one - it is not always the trucks fault, the train was on the intersection faster than the red flashing lights could keep up.

You'd have to name that case, that would be a one in a million case, if it was the case at all. They don't have timing switches, its a track circuit and changing that along with the rest of the signalling would be part of the job of raising the speed limit. Yes procedural failures are possible but this would be as rare as hens teeth.

My basic point is the habit of overtaking when there's a couple of km/h between the vehicles and the one on the left keeps going flat chat and doesn't have the nous to slow down and let the overtaker complete the manoeuvre quickly. Go to roads like the Putty Rd and see a couple of fools racing each other for the entire length of an overtaking lane and no wonder those stuck behind get impatient and do stupid things like in this video.

Inexcusable what the Falcon driver did but that's not all there is to this incident.

[98TLS]

Originally Posted by new2ford

You'd have to name that case, that would be a one in a million case, if it was the case at all. They don't have timing switches, its a track circuit and changing that along with the rest of the signalling would be part of the job of raising the speed limit. Yes procedural failures are possible but this would be as rare as hens teeth.

My basic point is the habit of overtaking when there's a couple of km/h between the vehicles and the one on the left keeps going flat chat and doesn't have the nous to slow down and let the overtaker complete the manoeuvre quickly. Go to roads like the Putty Rd and see a couple of fools racing each other for the entire length of an overtaking lane and no wonder those stuck behind get impatient and do stupid things like in this video.

Inexcusable what the Falcon driver did but that's not all there is to this incident.

Impatience is never going to be an excuse for stupidity except i guess on the internet.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by new2ford

My basic point is the habit of overtaking when there's a couple of km/h between the vehicles and the one on the left keeps going flat chat and doesn't have the nous to slow down and let the overtaker complete the manoeuvre quickly.

this appears to be a multi lane rd rather than an 'overtaking lane'. i understand the rules about keeping left unless overtaking, but these weren't being breached here.

as for pointing fingers at behaviours of certain types of vehicles, i've travelled numerous times on the pacific mwy between bris and GC and if you think a couple of trucks side by side is bad, then you'd be horrified at 6 lanes of cars all acting like a rolling road block. its not unique to any particular type of transport, sorry to say.

[CoupeKing]

Like to know what occurred earlier before the edit.

[olfella]

Originally Posted by new2ford

My basic point is the habit of overtaking when there's a couple of km/h between the vehicles and the one on the left keeps going flat chat and doesn't have the nous to slow down and let the overtaker complete the manoeuvre quickly. Go to roads like the Putty Rd and see a couple of fools racing each other for the entire length of an overtaking lane and no wonder those stuck behind get impatient and do stupid things like in this video.

Inexcusable what the Falcon driver did but that's not all there is to this incident.

Why not sit down and think about the situation a bit more.
Two vehicles on the road. Speed limit 100k. One goes a few k under that because of load, incline or whatever. So, faster vehicle at the rear wants to pass. This vehicle sees a safe opportunity and commences to overtake. Halfway through this manoeuvre a third vehicle travelling behind the overtaking one, gets impatient and thinks they can overtake the lot by hitting the dirt and speeding. When the third speeding vehicle attempts to take up a position at the head of the pack, he loses it and heads for the hills. How can that be the fault of the two leading vehicles or railway crossings?

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by new2ford

You'd have to name that case, that would be a one in a million case, if it was the case at all. They don't have timing switches, its a track circuit and changing that along with the rest of the signalling would be part of the job of raising the speed limit. Yes procedural failures are possible but this would be as rare as hens teeth.

it is a real case, made National headlines when it happened, you do the research

Originally Posted by new2ford

My basic point is the habit of overtaking when there's a couple of km/h between the vehicles and the one on the left keeps going flat chat and doesn't have the nous to slow down and let the overtaker complete the manoeuvre quickly. Go to roads like the Putty Rd and see a couple of fools racing each other for the entire length of an overtaking lane and no wonder those stuck behind get impatient and do stupid things like in this video.

this thread was about the tool in the car overtaking impatiently and then you throw in a red herring about train crossings, god only knows why, probably coz you were struggling to justify the idiots decision making

Originally Posted by new2ford

Inexcusable what the Falcon driver did but that's not all there is to this incident.

NO ****!!!!!!!