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Old 27-06-2016, 11:48 AM   #1
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Hi guys I was refused insurance for my Ba xr6 turbo as the company said it has mods.
So my question is for you guys that have a few mods, Whois your insurer?
I need to get insurance asap for my ba xr6 turbo which is lowered, aftermarket exhaust, cooler and injectors.


Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 27-06-2016, 11:51 AM   #2
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Not sure what State you are in, but RACV in Victoria has been user friendly

But I would try Shannons for your car
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Old 27-06-2016, 11:54 AM   #3
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Sorry, I'm in melbourne
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Old 27-06-2016, 12:27 PM   #4
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Did you do an online quote or over the phone?
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Old 27-06-2016, 12:38 PM   #5
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Hi guys I was refused insurance for my Ba xr6 turbo as the company said it has mods.
Which insurer knocked you back?
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Old 27-06-2016, 12:43 PM   #6
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Which insurer? Just cars and Shannon's are amenable to legal mods.

When dealing with insurance types is when they find out I have two cars they try and roll the second into the quote. My response is do you insure modified cars? Usually falls flat.

Also had the lucky your with mob try and talk me out of a cancellation on the basis of being super dooper platinum despite reducing the payout figure and increasing the premium.

Rule with insurance - shop around and switch often. Loyalty doesn't count if you want a good deal. Loyalty makes you a sucker in their eyes.
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Old 27-06-2016, 12:44 PM   #7
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AAMI for me and as long as I inform them of the mods its covered. They've been really good for me for many years. And each year they are always the cheapest after doing the proper research.
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Old 27-06-2016, 12:46 PM   #8
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Have had several modified cars all insured through Just Cars..
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Old 27-06-2016, 12:53 PM   #9
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So long as all the mods are legal, you should have no problems.
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Old 27-06-2016, 12:54 PM   #10
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Because neither of my cars are daily drivers i go with Shannon's cheap for me
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Old 27-06-2016, 12:54 PM   #11
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Over the phone.
Just spoke with RACV and I'm now covered with them.
They don't care about mods,
As long as car is in rwc condition and safe to drive they are happy.
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Old 27-06-2016, 01:07 PM   #12
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Over the phone.
Just spoke with RACV and I'm now covered with them.
They don't care about mods,
As long as car is in rwc condition and safe to drive they are happy.
One question.

Are all your mods that require engineering engineered. If not then the car isn't roadworthy. I have seen a couple claims knocked back because of this.
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Old 27-06-2016, 01:25 PM   #13
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One question.

Are all your mods that require engineering engineered. If not then the car isn't roadworthy. I have seen a couple claims knocked back because of this.
I'll find out and get back to you.

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Old 27-06-2016, 01:36 PM   #14
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I recommend Ryno:

https://www.rynoinsurance.com.au/
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Just Car Insurance for all my cars, all modified
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Yeah, but sporty hubcaps don't count...
Larger turbo, sway bar, modified suspension and water/methanol injection
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Old 27-06-2016, 04:58 PM   #18
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Does a tune come under modifications?
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Old 27-06-2016, 06:05 PM   #19
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Does a tune come under modifications?
If you require the pcm to be reprogrammed via chip or sct unit, it would probably be the mod that Insurers often label as a "chip" mod. Insurers in their mod schedules often refer to -has your car been chipped- code for running a unique tune that is non standard.

So myself, when I eventually SCT tune my car, I will disclose to the Insurer that I have had the car custom tuned.

No point having "insurance" without disclosing mod, wiping out a $200,000 vehicle, and have the insurer decline indemnity on the basis that had you disclosed the mod they would not have insured you.

If you do have "insurance", not disclose a mod, and the insurer would have insured you with the mod but for a higher premium, they will be obliged to indemnify you but you would have to pay the additional premium they would have levied had you disclosed the mods.
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Can an insurance claim really be knocked back for an undisclosed mod even if it in no way contributed to the accident?

I use NRMA and only have legal modifications on my cars, but they don't list individual vehicle modifications on the policy its just up to you to ensure your vehicle is legal and covered for an amount you are satisfied with.
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Old 27-06-2016, 06:54 PM   #22
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AAMI cover all mods except those listed below?

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Old 27-06-2016, 07:02 PM   #23
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Have had everything including my xr6t with shannons for years, who I beleive are just a branch of aami nowadays anyways. They even have my house policy now.
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How old are you mate? that always factors into it, personally I'm with youi and they don't seem to care about mods as long as you are upfront with them
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Can an insurance claim really be knocked back for an undisclosed mod even if it in no way contributed to the accident?

I use NRMA and only have legal modifications on my cars, but they don't list individual vehicle modifications on the policy its just up to you to ensure your vehicle is legal and covered for an amount you are satisfied with.
You confuse negligence and causation which is a requirement of a negligence claim (not knocking-just point out a legal fact).

Your relationship with an insurer is a contractual one. No need for the mod to cause accident, causation is a requirement in a negligence claim- ie a negligent driver's negligence caused the accident.

If you do not disclose a mod, and an Insurer says that had you disclosed the mod they would not have provided you cover (and they are accepted that their in house policy procedures would not have insured your mod) - you have no cover....on your own....Is simple case of contract- what the parties agreed mutually when entering into the contract (ie the policy)
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You confuse negligence and causation which is a requirement of a negligence claim (not knocking-just point out a legal fact).

Your relationship with an insurer is a contractual one. No need for the mod to cause accident, causation is a requirement in a negligence claim- ie a negligent driver's negligence caused the accident.

If you do not disclose a mod, and an Insurer says that had you disclosed the mod they would not have provided you cover (and they are accepted that their in house policy procedures would not have insured your mod) - you have no cover....on your own....Is simple case of contract- what the parties agreed mutually when entering into the contract (ie the policy)
I don't totally understand how it works, NRMA wont let you list mods with them. They just state "Automatic cover for modifications, options and accessories" which to me sounds like as long as your car is legally modified then it is covered, also as long as your agreed value is adequate to replace the mods with the car.

I even flicked through the PDS and it doesn't go into a great deal about modifications other than stating that they ARE covered.

http://www.nrma.com.au/sites/default...r_PDS_1215.pdf
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I'll find out and get back to you.

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Get the insurer to list the modifications on the policy wording section of the policy statement for peace of mind then there's no doubt. They will do this for you if you ask.
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Old 28-06-2016, 05:24 PM   #28
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I use Shannons for my modified cars. You can list everything and then have no worries whether you're covered or not at claim time.
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some insurance companies will cover modifications, but there is normally fine print saying "legal" mods, many mods on late model cars are not legal and could possibly rise up as a problem come claim time
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Have had everything including my xr6t with shannons for years, who I beleive are just a branch of aami nowadays anyways. They even have my house policy now.
Shannon's have my house (went through the PDS with my previous GIO policy) and they were way cheaper than GIO they have my wife's 38 and my builds, the daily's were too expensive with them though
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