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07-04-2015, 12:27 PM | #1 | ||
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While I have always believed the press mollycoddle GMH I have been a little bit cynical on how much so. Even when some blatantly obvious biased articles exist.
Well here we are with what compound it for me... http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2015...79?csn_tn=true Have a look at that list and spot the odd one out. Ill give a tip, its local, has been around for a couple of years and has no technology that could be defined as "leading". Its as if they deliberately post rubbish (evidence here) to get a reaction which IMO is more a reflection of where the media is in this country.
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07-04-2015, 12:32 PM | #2 | ||
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Oh... But it's got paddle shifters for this year!!
Big technological leap there?!
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07-04-2015, 12:33 PM | #3 | ||
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journalise at its best again, so accurate and informative....
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07-04-2015, 12:36 PM | #4 | |||
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OK they're not paddle shifters, but the concept is the same. Shifting gear without taking your hands off the wheel. Fail.
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07-04-2015, 12:40 PM | #5 | ||
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"...with its lightweight construction incorporating aluminium...."
Im sorry, but the VF is NOT constructed via aluminium. Yes a few "hanging" panels are made from the stuff, stretching the truth a bit.
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07-04-2015, 12:51 PM | #6 | ||
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Half of them are concepts, Google car?? sounds like Larry Page was bored one day..
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07-04-2015, 12:58 PM | #7 | ||
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Correct, and they even negate the need for me to extend my fingers off the wheel by 30mm or so to reach the paddles
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07-04-2015, 12:59 PM | #8 | ||
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Mazda Had paddle shifts.... are they on the list ?.
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07-04-2015, 01:50 PM | #9 | ||
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Didn't Jeep and land rover have aluminum panels many decades ago!?
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07-04-2015, 02:36 PM | #10 | |||
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And if memory serves me correctly some Land Rovers with aluminium panels were assembled (built?) in Australia
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07-04-2015, 04:17 PM | #11 | ||
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There definitely is something standing out in a bad way in that article. I never realised innovation was copying what the euro's did a few years ago...
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07-04-2015, 06:02 PM | #12 | ||
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I hate the word "infotainment"
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07-04-2015, 06:53 PM | #13 | ||
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yeah, a bit of a stretch, the very nature of globalised cars means VF gained global electrical architecture, meaning all these whiz bang features just plug in. Hardly ground breaking when GM cars os have exactly the same features.
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08-04-2015, 02:32 AM | #14 | ||
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wow what a funny article. If you want more of a laugh....read the articles comments. Guys are actually defending the vf commadore being among the TOP...whatever cars.....
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08-04-2015, 01:26 PM | #15 | ||
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I like how they say VF Commodore with aluminium construction, Honda had all aluminium construction in the 1990s with the NSX
Not just "hanging panels", as in aluminium construction AND panels. |
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08-04-2015, 04:45 PM | #16 | ||
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08-04-2015, 05:24 PM | #17 | |||
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It just shows how little the idiots in that "profession" actually know about what they write about. Media .. Just watch the news, read the paper, and some 'so called expert' is making comments and having an opinion on something they know nothing about. If you are a tradesman you need to get a license and serve an apprenticeship, how are these idiots ( writers, reporters, etc ) trained and held accountable ? |
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08-04-2015, 08:26 PM | #18 | ||
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08-04-2015, 08:40 PM | #19 | ||
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and how many bagged google, iphone, android?
nah just GMH.. tesler is probably the only one as the others are proto's.
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08-04-2015, 09:24 PM | #20 | |||
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Ethics and Journalism don't mix. Next it will be Holden saves baby seals from being clubbed to death by Ford Australia or something along those lines and Ford Australia marketing team would be like at least we're getting some media coverage, any publicity is good publicity right? right? And the whole team is one crazy dude in the office talking to himself. |
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08-04-2015, 10:34 PM | #21 | |||
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AND flappy paddles... Why isn't it on the list??
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09-04-2015, 12:34 AM | #22 | ||
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Honestly looks like paid placement to me, or misguided support for a local manufacturer.
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09-04-2015, 12:44 AM | #23 | |||
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But it's deeper then that. Falcon doesn't get advertised for a reason. If you can't work it out.....think harder or read some more....... Imho |
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09-04-2015, 02:06 AM | #24 | |||
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Explain why out of the current range the only thing selling in the top 10 is the Ranger? I know why they don't advertise the Falcon and to be honest I don't care about the Falcon either. |
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09-04-2015, 03:07 AM | #25 | |||
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To save everyone from having to search why not explain how Ford is advertising these days and why it is so successful in Australia or at least put up a link so we can read about it.
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09-04-2015, 10:18 AM | #26 | |||
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09-04-2015, 07:00 PM | #27 | |||
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And I don't know exactly why fords don't fill more of the top spots in aus. As mentioned it's no doubt a collection of quite a few things. As for fords alternative advertising methods....look it up yourself guys, if you really care about the subject. It's been covered here before and I've even posted links about it before(I'm on my iPad most of the time so can't post links unless I fire up the PC)....but honestly if you can't see fords recent change to advertising in alternative media types(like Facebook/utube) then your blind And 701let I'm sure you can determine the difference between a method that is proven to be a success, and actually implementing it correctly. But as Loudpipes interestingly bought up, it was proven in USA, so perhaps it isn't as effective in aus. But I'd image they'd be stupid to not look at adapting any new program to local conditions as much as possible. Maybe this is another one of the reasons all adding up as to why fords aernt selling as well as they should in aus! |
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10-04-2015, 03:43 PM | #28 | ||
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Here's a new one from our mate Josh about the Dodge Ram being imported into Australia and New Zealand by HSV, priced around the 120k. Cant write an article without bagging out Ford, says Ford Australia stopped importing the F Series trucks back in 2007 can anyone remember Ford bringing them here cause I cant, must have been small numbers if they did.
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11-04-2015, 06:35 AM | #29 | ||
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The VF in that company?
Kind of like throwing a 1975 tractor into the list and saying "but hey, it's the most advanced vehicle ever built in Australia".
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12-04-2015, 06:43 PM | #30 | ||
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OHV in the Chev V8 is pretty Hi Tech
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